COMMENTS WANTED ON MAKING A.B.A "MOTHERLODE" BETT

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:22 pm

HEY EVERYONE... MY NAME IS ROBERT MANSOR... I AM THE NEW "MOTHERLODE" REGION DIRECTOR FOR A.B.A... I FISHED A.B.A IN THE PAST, BUT THERE WERE THINGS I DIDN'T LIKE ABOUT IT... I WANT COMMENTS FROM "EVERYONE" ON WHAT I CAN DO TO GET MORE FISHERMAN OUT FOR THE EVENTS... GO TO AMERICANBASS.COM CLICK ON MOTHERLODE... I AM HAVING A PRO TEAM ON SATURDAYS, A SEMI PRO ON SUNDAYS, AND A MID WEEK ON WEDS... ALOT OF EXCITING THINGS WILL BE HAPPENING IN THE 2008 SEASON...... THANKS FOR YOUR IMPUT...

ROBERT MANSOR
(YOU CAN ALSO EMAIL ME @ rmanzos@aol.com

Rich hamilton · Post by **Rich hamilton** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:38 pm

Robert,

I think most motherlode circuits do a pretty good job. The basic stuff would include no late fees, clear launch and weigh in directions, safe and enforced blast off, making it clear how blast off numbers are determined and do it the same everytime. make clear the off limits areas and inform anglers prior to the tournament. weigh in; care for the fish and expidite fish back into the lake and insure no floaters (every anglers responsibility). have a back up scale and power source. give anglers a realistic time table for results and award presentation. if it takes longer than 25 minutes something's wrong. make it clear how you and your circuit handle the protest procedure. Inform anglers to turn off headlights while launching. use the buddy system for mechanical problems and self launch.

Whatever decision you make be sure it is consistant, fair and by the printed rules always. explain the pot options to the anglers as well as how the qualifying for the toc works (first tournament) print your payback no matter how bad or good it is. obtain a plaque sponsor or eat the cost until you get one. most guys wont admit it but mamma gets the check and the money is gone but the wood hangs forever... hope this helps, Richie Rich

BassNCop · Post by **BassNCop** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:40 am

I had fished the ABA Motherload for a few years and one of the reasons I stopped was because it took so long to post the results. Get the results posted a day or two after the tourney.

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:22 am

I HAVE BEEN WORKING CLOSE WITH ROBERT ONE THIS HIS FIRST YEAR .I BELIEVE HE HAS IT TOGETHER FOR THE PAYBACKS, WEIGH-INS, BLAST OFF NUMBERS AND SO ON.........I ALSO AM SURE HE WILL HAVE THE RESULTS POSTED THAT NIGHT AFTER THE TOURNAMENT ON (PROBABLY THIS WEBSITE) NO ONE CAN HURRY UP ABA IN REDONDO BEACH HEADQUARTERS: BUT ROBERT WILL BE POSTING ON HERE, YOU CAN ALSO SEE RESULTS ON WWW.JIGSTACKLE.NET........ALSO DID I MENTION THE FREE, FREE FOOD, MAY ONLY BE HOT DOGS AND BEANS, BUT HOT, FREE, WHAT THE HECK !!!!!!!!!!! I HEAR HE IS GIVING AWAY A NEW SERIES ROD MADE BY REACTION STRIKE (SWIMBAIT RODS AT EVERY PRO TEAM TOURNAMENT ON SATURDAY) HOW COOL IS THAT !!! SO I WISH HIM LUCK, COME TO THE GET AQUAINTED TOURNAMENT , NO MEMBERSHIP NEEDED NOVEMBER 24TH. HAY YOU MAY TAKE HOME MORE THAN YOU PAID FOR ...................ON DISPLAY WILL BE( ESOX RODS, I HEAR THAT THE REP NORVAL CHAN WILL BE HERE, PUFFBALL JIGS BY LEFTY'S LURES, AND REACTION STRIKE SWIMBAIT RODS AND MUCH MORE )!!!

THANK YOU....JIGS

MT · Post by MT » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:39 am

Robert or Jigs,
I'm trying to figure out how qualification for the TOC is determined with 3 different circuits and 18 total tournaments to fish. MT

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:10 am

rmanzos@aol.com
OR CALL ROBERT AT 209-852-2678
I AM JUST SPONSOR HELP !!!!!

JIGS

duaneg4 · Post by **duaneg4** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:38 am

Where will next years TOC be?

When we fished ABA in the past, photos were taken but never posted. The photos help anglers promote there sponsors.

We're looking forward to this year's events.

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:20 am

rmanzos@aol.com
OR CALL ROBERT AT 209-852-2678
I AM JUST SPONSOR HELP !!!!!

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:37 am

A.B.A HAS ABOUT 45 DIFFERENT REGIONS... THEY HAVE A TOC UP NORTH. DOWN SOUTH, AND ONE AROUND HERE... IN THE "MOTHERLODE" YOU HAVE TO FISH 5 OUT OF 6 TO QUALIFY FOR THE TOC... USUALLY ABOUT THE TOP 20 QUALIFY FOR TOC... A.B.A HAS NEVER HAD A SEMI PRO CIRCUIT, SO IT WAS MY IDEA TO TRY IT... BEING THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, THE SEMI PROS WILL QUALIFY FOR THE PRO TOC... HOPEFULLY I GET A GOOD TURN OUT FOR THE SEMI'S, AND SPONSORS WILL KICK IN TO GET A SEPERATE TOC FOR THEM... EVEN THOUGH THIS IS MY FIRST SEASON AS A DIRECTOR, I HAVE BEEN FISHING EVENTS IN THIS AREA FOR OVER 20 YEARS... I KNOW WHAT I WANTED WHEN I FISHED A CIRCUIT IN THE PAST, AND HOPE FULLY W/ ALL THE FISHERMANS INPUT, AND MY PAST EXPERIENCES, THE "ALL NEW" MOTHERLODE A.B.A WILL GET THE SAME TURNOUTS AS 100% BASS!!!! I DON'T MIND COMPARING MYSELF TO BOB @ 100% BECAUSE "HE KNOWS HOW TO PUT ON AN EVENT"!!! HE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR SOME TIME AND I HAVE ALWAYS SUPPORTED HIM... HE, BY FAR, HAS THE BIGGEST PAYOUTS IN TEAM EVENTS AROUND HERE... WHEN YOU START GETTING BACK TO THE OLD DAYS AND GET 100 TEAMS @ "EVERY" EVENT, THE BIG PAYOUTS WILL COME... I BECAME THE "MOTHERLODE" DIRECTOR BECAUSE I "KNOW" THERE ARE ENOUGH COMPETITIVE FISHERMAN AROUND TO GET BACK TO THOSE 100 TEAM EVENTS... MY LOVE FOR THIS SPORT GAVE ME NO OPTION BUT TO COME OUT AND TRY TO GIVE YOU GUYS WHAT YOU WANT.... THAT IS WHY,ALL FEEDBACK FROM EVERYONE IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME.... I WANT TO BUILD THIS REGION UP SO MY SPONSORS SEE THE INTEREST FROM "ALL" YOU FISHERMAN... I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE SOMETHING ""BIG"" AWAY @ EACH TOURNEY... "LETS ALL DO THIS"!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joe Bruce · Post by **Joe Bruce** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:50 am

you know the answer

its all about the payback

get out there and hussle up some better payback like Korny dose and the numbers will follow

that is my only ABA complaint

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:52 am

IN RESPONSE TO "PHOTOS" BEING POSTED AFTER EACH EVENT... LIKE I SAID, I AM A TOURNEY ANGLER AND I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET RECOGNITION... ALOT OF DIRECTORS DON'T FISH TOURNEYS AND DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE FISHERMAN, NOT ONLY WANT, BUT "NEED"... @ EVERY EVENT I HAVE, THE TOP 10 WILL BE PHOTOGRAPHED... IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE A SHEET THAT THE TOP 10 FILL OUT... IT IS BASICALLY A FACTS SHEET ABOUT YOU, THAT WILL BE PUT ON THE WEB SITE. AND ALL OF THESE THINGS WILL BE IN THE A.B.A MAGAZINE THEY SEND OUT... A.B.A IS HUGE AND THEY HAVE MANY CORPORATE SPONSORS WHO PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT IS PUBLISHED... THIS IS AN AWESOME TOOL FOR GETTING SPONSORS... I KNOW THAT AFTER A TOURNEY, IF YOU AREN'T GETTING A CHECK, YOU JUST WANT TO GO HOME... THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS HOLD YOU UP, BUT.. I NEED EVERYONE TO STAY AROUND... THERE ARE ALOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE, PHOTOS, FACT SHEETS AND SO ON TO GET YOUR NAMES TO BE SEEN...

basstrophy · Post by **basstrophy** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:16 pm

Joe Bruce wrote:you know the answer

its all about the payback

get out there and hussle up some better payback like Korny dose and the numbers will follow

that is my only ABA complaint

Joe you took the words right out of my mouth. I too agree with a better payback will attract more fishermen. I fished ABA once and found the pay back awful this made my mind up about fishing this circuit again.

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RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:37 pm

YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT HUSSLIN UP SOME SPONSORS, I DONT KNOW OF TOO MANY SPONSORS THAT WANT TO KICK DOWN CASH... DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS????

fishyd · Post by **fishyd** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 7:47 pm

That stuff about running a tourney like KORNY forget it. I have been ripped off by 100 percent in one of there little pro am deals. after paying all my entry fees in full with all the options, I was unable to fish due to being ill. I tried to use it at another pro am He could not fit me in, but could call someone and secure a am over the phone HUH. Just happened the am was buddies with the guy letting him use his place for the pre tourney meeting. I know this for a fact my team partner was sitting right there when the phone call was made. By the way I had spoken to him that day personally. Still has my money! WHO REALLY WANTS TO LISTEN TO HIM FOR THIRTY FIVE MINUTES BEFORE YOU BLAST OFF ANYWAY!!!! NOT TO MENTION HAVING HIM SHOOT YOUR WIFE DOWN AT THE SCALES AT THE WESTERN RALLY ( OVER THE MIC) JUST BECAUSE SHE WAS A LITTLE NERVOUS AND EXCITED HER FIRST TIME IN THE WEIGH IN LINE. SO WHAT IF SHE DID NOT SAY SOMETHING RIGHT YOU ***#$%^! Before you blast me or delete my post I am i no way downing on the rally she had a great time with one exception. She can not wait till next year. Sorry to hijack your thread The main thing you really need is a good bullhorn or PA system for the morning blast off that is really important. I COULD HAVE GONE AND HID MY IDENTITY ON THIS POST BUT I WON'T.

Doug McKa

basstrophy · Post by **basstrophy** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:23 pm

RMANZO wrote:YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT HUSSLIN UP SOME SPONSORS, I DONT KNOW OF TOO MANY SPONSORS THAT WANT TO KICK DOWN CASH... DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS????

Rmanzo I sent you a PM

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:35 pm

SORRY... I DIDN'T RECIEVE YOUR PERSONAL MESSAGE

RMANZO · Post by **RMANZO** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:41 pm

NO PROBLEM W/ YOUR THREAD... FREEDOM OF SPEECH RIGHT!?!? I WANT TO HAVE MY OWN "IDENTITY" W.THIS CIRCUIT... WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT 100% , I JUST MEANT I WANT TO GET THE TURN OUT HE GETS.... SO, DID YOUR WIFE GET OVER HER "SHYNESS" FOR THE MICROPHONE??? BECAUSE I AM NERVOUS ABOUT TALKING ON THE BULLHORN MYSELF

basstrophy · Post by **basstrophy** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:57 pm

RMANZO wrote:SORRY... I DIDN'T RECIEVE YOUR PERSONAL MESSAGE

Try now.

Bassman35 · Post by **Bassman35** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:14 pm

Its simple. Run an honest circuit. Don't get caught up in the clicks. Pay back well and DO LIE DETECTORS! I too am concerned about paybacks but more importantly I want to get beat not stolen from!
Bryan Cox

D · Post by D » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:41 am

Robert I have fished ABA in the past I would like to see a better payback or a deeper payback its awfull hard to come in with 12lbs and not get a call, its happened many time s with the swimbait craze, I also agree with bryan I do not want to get ripped off There was a couple of questionable incidents in the past that I can recall that may have been prevented with tighter control.