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Good video. The problem is not difficult to understand, too many takers vs not enough producers = broke. It really does boil down to simple math but what makes it even worse, too many takers taking way too much.
Was reading about a poll that shows most young people are in favor of bigger government, not looking good for the countries future.
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Grumpy wrote:Good video. The problem is not difficult to understand, too many takers vs not enough producers = broke. It really does boil down to simple math but what makes it even worse, too many takers taking way too much.
Was reading about a poll that shows most young people are in favor of bigger government, not looking good for the countries future.
At this point it doesnt matter. Countries come and they go. The USA has always encourged people to move here. and as a result of that our cultrue will change over time. Good or Bad ? Who knows, But 1 thing is for sure. It will never be what it was.

It will be for younger people to deal with. we may become like Greece or just slide into being another country in a group of many, with some other country rising to world leader status. I think that is most likey. and we will slowley become like them . gun laws, health care, style of life.

reminds me of a frog in hot water. By the time it knows its in trouble. Its to late.
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you can thank your republican buddys for sending you clowns over the fiscal cliff the blame lies on both partys the republicans are selling out and starting to cave in just a matter of time :twisted:
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This is now the Obama era, anything and everything that happens good or bad for the next four years and beyond will be owned by Obama and his democrats. The blame Bush narrative is a dead horse beat beyond recognition, even hardcore democrats realize how foolish they look now when they play that card. This next era is Obama's and his alone, if the country keeps going downhill his supporters will no longer be able to look any further than the president they elected to blame. When Harry Reid and his dems toss out the fillibuster making the democratic controlled senate fillibuster proof the democrats effectively take all responsibility for legislation moving or not moving through Congress. This is what they want, whatever happens now will be theirs to own for a long time.
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And hillary going too be the next president in 2016 SO ITS GOING TO KEEP GETTING BETTER HUH :D
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To tell you the truth nothing would surprise me, but it will depend on how the population embrace socialist policies and the impact of those policies over the next four years. This will get real interesting and we will know within the next few years if this country will accept or reject a hybrid European type socialism.
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jiggin4bass wrote:you can thank your republican buddys for sending you clowns over the fiscal cliff the blame lies on both partys the republicans are selling out and starting to cave in just a matter of time :twisted:
I know you probably despise this guy, but take a moment to listen to him and tell me where he's wrong.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2017260015001/
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I like fox news these guys happen to be right in very thing they say. i also watch PSmsnbc There a bunch of nut cases on that channel. i here what bill O is saying but if you cant change washington and the democrats what are we going to do i voted for mitt did it do any good no are my taxes going up im betting they are am i going too pay them yes i am. There not much we can do if president obama wont move over too the middle and govern on both sides and work with both partys its very simple too do but i dought it will happen. So we have to wait and see what happens in washington.
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This is beyond a Republican vs Democrat argument, both parties have contributed to the destruction of our economy. I just don't understand the mentality, O'Reilly lays it out in simple terms, you just can't argue with the numbers. 109 million people working in the private sector who not only provide for themselves and their families but also provide 100% of the support for our govt. and the 87 million people dependent on it, many of which maintain lavish lifestyles. And its not enough, they want more. I have been self employed for over 30 years, the only interaction I have had with govt. is writing them checks, can't say I never complained or moaned and groaned about it but I did my duty. I have never in my lifetime to date ever had any govt. employee from any agency ever thank me, no, its always the hard working public sector workers who owe thanks to the hero's in govt. Almost like they are wired to think its their money we are giving them. I believe they actually think their paycheck comes from the govt., its beyond arrogance it has to be ignorance.

Anyways I think this is coming to a head, it may get ugly. If you think this can't get worse, look at CA. the people in this state actually voted for huge tax increases and Gov. Jerry Browns approval ratings have gone up since, stick a fork in CA. And now, Detroit will be filing bankruptcy, the house of cards is beginning to crumble.
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