Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

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Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby george » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:19 am

We are putting a news film crew together to run a story on the herbicide application on the delta waters and need to find out if anyone knows where the application group is headquartered!
We are hoping to be on the delta next week with a federal biologist who is an environmental specialist and want to film the boats in action as well as sample the waters that are in different stages of treatment.
You can text, call or email any information you may have.

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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby lcates » Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:29 am

2 boats everyday out of sugarbarge

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Postby sy » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:38 pm

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Postby M A J » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:01 pm

Go get em!!
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby WAUTE » Fri Jun 08, 2018 4:02 pm

Ask to review their permits for operation and see what they tell you.

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Postby RJB » Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:35 pm

Any of you know what the pellets are actually called? What chemical it actually is or at least the name of the product?

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Postby Mike Martinez » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:08 pm

Check out this website. CA.gov/parks/dbw
You can sign up to get the email alerts of when and where they’ll be spreading.
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby DDG » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:09 am

I feel like ive seen the answer to this before, but

Who pays for these boats to go out and spread the pellets?
is it a tax payer funded thing?

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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby bluehobiebasser » Sat Jun 09, 2018 10:16 am

http://dbw.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=29465

This is their website. Lot's of information. Fluridone is the chemical in the pellets.

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Postby mark poulson » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:33 pm

bluehobiebasser wrote:http://dbw.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=29465

This is their website. Lot's of information. Fluridone is the chemical in the pellets.


And Roundup is what they spray for Hyacinth and Primrose.
"Herbicide applications during the treatment period will utilize Glyphosate (Roundup Custom) and Imazamox (Clearcast).
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby yjjustforme » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:56 pm

There is an entire crew of them that are stored out at and launch out of paradise. Each time they launch 2-6 boats at a time and they're going anywhere from pixley all the way north to whites and I've even seen them out by goat island as well

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Postby Fromthemill » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:13 pm

They store the boats at paradise but I don't always see them launch there. They must trailer to other ramps sometimes.

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Postby zethkinnettfishing » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:27 pm

wonder why they don't just use one of those big barge like boats that just scoop up the weeds. to offset the cost of this they can then dump it on a lot and turn it to compost and sell it as supercharged organic fertilizer rather than spray toxic chemicals all over the place and pollute the waterways.

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Postby bluehobiebasser » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:31 pm

zethkinnettfishing wrote:wonder why they don't just use one of those big barge like boats that just scoop up the weeds. to offset the cost of this they can then dump it on a lot and turn it to compost and sell it as supercharged organic fertilizer rather than spray toxic chemicals all over the place and pollute the waterways.


They were doing that in 14-Mile Slough back in March. Kinda cool to watch.

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Postby Morgan » Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:16 pm

Whats the name of that thick grass that is really bad/clogs up your trolling motor. Since the other weeds are being eliminated, the sun is really making these grow and spreading. I think it's worse than the other weeds.

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Postby mark poulson » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:59 am

Morgan wrote:Whats the name of that thick grass that is really bad/clogs up your trolling motor. Since the other weeds are being eliminated, the sun is really making these grow and spreading. I think it's worse than the other weeds.


I think it is an algae, not a true grass, although we call it snot grass.
It seems to me that the more hydrilla they poison, the more snot grass we get.
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Postby Mike » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:57 pm

Way to advertise that the media is coming.. Now they can stop their illegal activity :?
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Postby mark poulson » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:42 am

Mike wrote:Way to advertise that the media is coming.. Now they can stop their illegal activity :?


I don't think the people responsible for the spraying program pay much attention to media.
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Postby MGJR » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:03 am

Gents - ask them for their application and management plan. Then ask for results and water quality monitoring. If they do not provide, tell they you'll FOIA them. Ask for a supervisor. I've been working to compile data - to show that much of this program is lacking.

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Postby mark poulson » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:16 am

MGJR wrote:Gents - ask them for their application and management plan. Then ask for results and water quality monitoring. If they do not provide, tell they you'll FOIA them. Ask for a supervisor. I've been working to compile data - to show that much of this program is lacking.


Are they required to have those documents in their possession, and to show it on demand?
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Postby MGJR » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:55 am

No...but their programs should have some foundational plans.

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Postby mark poulson » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:04 pm

MGJR wrote:No...but their programs should have some foundational plans.


Have you tried contacting them?
I get weekly emails from them showing what they're spraying/pelleting, and where.
I signed up on their website.
https://dbw.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=28764
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Postby WB Staff » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:38 am

Released from Water Education Foundation this month:
state-parks-workers-shoot-herbicide-pellets-onto-invasive-plants-delta-t115747.html

California State Parks workers shoot herbicide pellets onto invasive plants in May at Brannan Island State Recreation Area in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.


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Postby Freefall » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:29 pm

No grass, no bass....

Without the grasses the D would suck.
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby dvkawboy » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:33 am

It’s part of the wiin act of 2016 . They are not just targeting the grass , the pellets take the oxygen out of the water to kill invasive species. Striped bass , largemouths and all other introduced species are the targets along with the aquatic vegetation.

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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby Jireland03 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:20 pm

It's called sonar pr. Look at Joshua Ireland and Michael birch Facebook pages. We have been researching this stuff for months now. Awesome you got some more biologists involved.

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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby Winxp_man » Mon Aug 06, 2018 11:34 pm

Is it safe to even eat fish that spend a bit of time in the delta any longer? :shock:

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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby mark poulson » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:19 am

dvkawboy wrote:It’s part of the wiin act of 2016 . They are not just targeting the grass , the pellets take the oxygen out of the water to kill invasive species. Striped bass , largemouths and all other introduced species are the targets along with the aquatic vegetation.


Won't that stuff kill the salmon, too?
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby JoeLanghans » Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:59 am

mark poulson wrote:
dvkawboy wrote:It’s part of the wiin act of 2016 . They are not just targeting the grass , the pellets take the oxygen out of the water to kill invasive species. Striped bass , largemouths and all other introduced species are the targets along with the aquatic vegetation.


Won't that stuff kill the salmon, too?


No, the salmon run in the main river channels. No grass there. Also, I don’t see any bass floating around, dead. The fish obviously don’t benefit from pesticides and it may contribute to a change in reproduction cycles, habitat for the fish. But, I think the guys who struggle fishing the Delta tend to immediately blame the spraying, the weather, the tides, the pressure, etc. it may be a contributing factor but look in the mirror before you start pointing fingers.

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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby mark poulson » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:18 pm

I've seen salmon in the back of Sandmound, and in Disco Bay. Those aren't main river channels, but they are being bombarded with pellets.
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby dvkawboy » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:57 pm

We have all seen salmon in the back of sandmound . It’s comment like this Joe guys that make it to where people can’t have intelligent , knowledgeable conversation.

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Postby JoeLanghans » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:27 am

dvkawboy wrote:We have all seen salmon in the back of sandmound . It’s comment like this Joe guys that make it to where people can’t have intelligent , knowledgeable conversation.


Your only point to writing on this thread was to insult me, rather than letting your “intelligence” and “knowledge” do the talking. Bet you wouldn’t say something stupid like that if you spoke to me in person. :twisted:

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Postby mark poulson » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:07 am

JoeLanghans wrote:
dvkawboy wrote:We have all seen salmon in the back of sandmound . It’s comment like this Joe guys that make it to where people can’t have intelligent , knowledgeable conversation.


Your only point to writing on this thread was to insult me, rather than letting your “intelligence” and “knowledge” do the talking. Bet you wouldn’t say something stupid like that if you spoke to me in person. :twisted:


Guys, this topic is too important to let it get side tracked. Everyone here wants what's best for the Delta, or they wouldn't even be here.
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Re: Does anyone know what area the delta pellet boats are launching out of!

Postby JoeLanghans » Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:40 am

Agreed. If they are soo concerned about the weed, mats, and grass growth on the delta, why wouldn’t they just manually remove it like what they do in the Tahoe Keys in South Lake Tahoe?? They wouldn’t dare to ever spray pesticides in Lake Tahoe so why is it acceptable in the delta rivers? It also does not make sense why the farmers, growers and Southern California would need more water, haven’t they all had enough time to build an infrastructure that can withstand growth. Where’s the accountability? Robbing Peter to pay Paul, makes sense. Liberals and activists lie in the middle of the road to protest and block traffic to fight against what they feel in wrong... let’s damn the rivers!!


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