frog rod that also throw medium swimbaits?

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:34 pm

is there a crucial that would double up and be soft enough on the tip to walk a frog as well as chuck 6" swimbaits?

I use the CRC-C72MH for frogs but it feels too light in the backbone, the flippin stick is too heavy/stiff at the tip. flippin stick also too stiff on the tip for medium swimbaits, it'll work but wanting to try looking at something else that will do both

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:19 am

CRCX711MH will do both very well. I think its a prefect frog rod and it works well for 6" Huddlestons too.

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:40 am

interesting... I've got the CRCX-76MH flippin stick that I've tried but is just too stiff in the tip for walking a frog, too broomstick-like. it does throw the 7" AC minnow swimbait pretty good. is the 711MH softer at the tip?

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:20 pm

The 711 has a softer tip. I have used it to throw similar baits to the AC minnow and it performs well. The Rago Rat is a great bait to throw on this rod too

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:55 pm

any pro staff in the CA Delta area that would have this model (and/or the swimbait rods) to try out?

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:28 am

I think Dan Isaac might have a couple. He's in Foster City and I have no idea when he will be on the Delta.

DanIsaac · Post by **DanIsaac** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:05 am

Yep, that's the one you want. Works great for me.

Dan

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:15 pm

bringing this one back to life - I never pulled the trigger on a dedicated frog rod last year so I thought I'd bring this topic back up.

I picked up a used CRCS-711XH ( throws the AC Minnow 7" rainbow great, took big fish money yesterday in Tracy Bass TOC with it) and tried the frog on it. While I wasn't expecting great things from such a stiff rod it was the height of the reel seat that gave me problems. I ended up with the butt end in my armpit constantly and it just wasn't comfortable at all. In looking at the CRCX-711MH it also has the same reel seat height (12" rear grip length) which is causing me to back away from the idea of buying one now.

searched the catalog - nothing with a 9 or 10" rear grip area seemed appropriate - am I out of luck?

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:09 am

The 7'6 models have a shorter rear grip section. Personally I like the longer rear grip, but I have long arms. I also like to put the rod in my armpit for leverage.

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:44 am

bantam1 wrote:The 7'6 models have a shorter rear grip section. Personally I like the longer rear grip, but I have long arms. I also like to put the rod in my armpit for leverage.

those 7'6 are too heavy, just sold a CRC-X76MH

any other options you might suggest? does Shimano have any plans to do frog specific rod at some point in the future? I'd be happy to help provide development feedback...

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:16 am

I am working on some new rods for later this year. One of them might make a killer frog rod. I will not get a chance to get on the water for another week. I'll test it then and see how it works.

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Sat May 29, 2010 12:12 pm

just thought I'd check back in and see if there was anything more you could share about the new rods you mentioned last month.

always open to providing field testing feedback as well, would love to get involved with some product development

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:15 am

The rods have been up on the Delta for the past week. Some good reports have come in from our pro staff. One of the rods will make a good frog rod, but not a rod for swimbaits.

DanIsaac · Post by **DanIsaac** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:27 am

NO, one of these rods will be an AWESOME frog rod, and it has the shorter butt length and the perfect tip for walking a frog. Could not believe how well it fished! Plus, It will make an awesome jig stick as well!

Coming to you at ICAST in July!

Dan

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:51 am

Great news. Then I'll hold off an purchasing till July when I can get a chance to check the rod out. If you can talk about it right now I'm wondering while line will the rod be part of? Crucial?

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:32 pm

The problem is I don't think I will get the prototypes back from the pro staff

I will post all the info here next month when ICAST starts.

DanIsaac · Post by **DanIsaac** » Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:59 am

bantam1 wrote:The problem is I don't think I will get the prototypes back from the pro staff

I will post all the info here next month when ICAST starts.

I think you would be right on that one! But we're still debating how we're going to divide!

Dan

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:22 am

You could cut them in half and give Jr. the top section.

MikeD · Post by **MikeD** » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:51 pm

bantam1 wrote:I will post all the info here next month when ICAST starts.

ok, time to fess up

bantam1 · Post by **bantam1** » Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:02 am

The rods have been delayed until next year. We placed a huge demand on our factory for other rods.

ugly stick · Post by **ugly stick** » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:30 pm

My fav frog rod is the 76Heavy okuma swimbait rod. It will toss a frog A MILE and walk it no problem. Its all about the slack in the line. I REALLY like the 76Heavy crucial flip rod for frogs too. It walks them GREAT. Its all about having the right amount of slack in the line IMO.