Gas and fishing
Gas and fishing
just wondering what its costing everyone for a day of fishing on the delta with this 3 dollar a gallon gas--i have no dought that it will hit 4 bucks--my diesel is already 3.29--my trips now are all well chosen and i make full days when traveling
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Triton Mike
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I can't even begin to fathom $3.00 a gallon for gas. Out here in Georgia we are paying 2.50 right now and I am already starting to squirm. It's bad when $20.00 don't even get you a 1/4 of a tank (I drive till the arrow is way past Empty).
But out here we have alot of trolling motor only type lakes and I am going to start fishing those. There are actually some where you can't even have a gas motor on the back. There is actually bigger bass in the trolling motor only lakes than there is in the bigger ponds where you can run WOT. SO thats part of my remedy to the situation. I bought me a 15ft jon boat that I decked out and I am rigging it with 3 82lb thrust t motors for propulsion
Just something to think about..
TMIke
But out here we have alot of trolling motor only type lakes and I am going to start fishing those. There are actually some where you can't even have a gas motor on the back. There is actually bigger bass in the trolling motor only lakes than there is in the bigger ponds where you can run WOT. SO thats part of my remedy to the situation. I bought me a 15ft jon boat that I decked out and I am rigging it with 3 82lb thrust t motors for propulsion
Just something to think about..TMIke
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Last sunday I filled my truck (F250 Powerstroke) and my boat (488vs) and it cost me $185.00!!!!!!!!! Went out today and already burned up one tank in the boat. This fishing IS getting expensive!
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3 TROLLING MOTORS- WHOA DUDE--NOW THAT MUST LOOK UNREAL HHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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I've had to cut my fishing way back this summer, I can remember when I was complaining about gas prices last year when it hit 1.80 per gallon.
Western Ralley Expenses
Gas for Tahoe...........$ 150.00
Gas for Boat.............. 160.00
Oil............................. 25.00
Gas additive............. 10.00
1/2 room for 5 nights 190.00
Food......................... 150.00
Ralley entry.............. 50.00
Baits......................... 100.00
Total $ 835.00
Makes fishing a tournament REAL EXPENSIVE.
Non Boaters take note.......Remember this next time you get ready to offer your boater some money at the end of the day. This doesnt take into account the extra pre fish that he did to put you on those fish youre catching or the baits he gives you to use to catch them with !!!!!
Gas for Boat.............. 160.00
Oil............................. 25.00
Gas additive............. 10.00
1/2 room for 5 nights 190.00
Food......................... 150.00
Ralley entry.............. 50.00
Baits......................... 100.00
Total $ 835.00
Makes fishing a tournament REAL EXPENSIVE.
Non Boaters take note.......Remember this next time you get ready to offer your boater some money at the end of the day. This doesnt take into account the extra pre fish that he did to put you on those fish youre catching or the baits he gives you to use to catch them with !!!!!
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Hey Mitch if he doesn't put you onto fish that mean ya don't have to take it into account?
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Thats up to you. Are you one of those guys who thinks $ 10 is sufficant for a days fishing.............?
Sorry to hear that Mitch...
I deal with the Rally in an entirely different manner. First off is I don't go up there with the notion that I'm trying to win a competitive tournament. For me it's much more about meeting all the folks and sharing in the cammaraderie.
That being said I don't end up spending nearly as much money on any of the items you listed out. I don't go up early to get on good fish and my non boaters don't either, we end up just going fishing. I fish with the baits I already paid out for and have in the boat as I have a lot more baits then I ever end up using and I have to use them sometime. I also use baits that are as disposable as some; i.e, frogs, buzzbaits and cranks that I simply don't lose a lot of and worms that I've stocked up on in mass quantities knowing that the fish usually want them. Although I spend all year putting the Rally together I don't get comped a room so I pay what everyone else pays, which for the Rally is the cheapest rate on the lake. My boat this year had a four stroke engine on it which saved me in gas and of course on oil as it doesn't require the additional oil that other engines do. Because I'm not in competitive mode I don't run all over the lake looking for the best fish but tend to stay more local. This year the event was won by someone who never left Lakeport. I got a real nice fish first thing in the morning on Saturday one minute away from the launch ramp and found great fishing within five mintues either side of the main facility. It was interesting to me that I watched so many boats make extremely long runs when there was such good fishing to be had much closer to home and I had my fishing areas pretty much to ourselves throughout the rally. Granted I caught a lot of small fish as well but for me winning the Rally is never my first and foremost concern. My non boaters did extremely well and we just never ventured far to get bit. I didn't go far south at any time with Henderson being the southern most part of the lake I went. I pull into the rally the day before the event starts so costs are less. I also set the price of the rally at $50, the least expensive rally this year when everyone else has raised the price of the rallies across the country each year. When you check in you get a quality hat as a keep sake from the event and tackle that generally equals of better the price of the event itself. This year most folks got a couple bags baits from Yamamoto, a couple of baits from Innovative Tackle, A buzz or spinnerbait, a Poe's crankbait, a couple jigs and boaters got a bottle of NoSweat Mist to clean up their boats. Some folks got Nemire Lures in their bags if we ran out of something else. Many of the baits given out where baits you could use to catch fish during the rally. It's never an easy to task to bring product sponsors on board but we do the best with what the market will allow. Fishign a rally got everyone two dinners and two lunches as part of the entry fee as well. I ended up buying breakfast and drinks and that's about it. If you were fishing a Pro Am events as a boater you're expenses would be significantly more but this is designed to be a fun fishing event at most. My expenses were as such:
Gas for Tahoe...........$ 75.00
Gas for Boat.............. 60.00
Oil............................. 0.00
Gas additive............. 0.00
1 room for 3 nights 195.00
Food......................... 35.00
Ralley entry.............. 50.00
Baits......................... 0.00
Total $ 415.00
The price averages out to $138 a day for three days.
Your cost averaged out to $170 a day for five days.
Still not bad for a vacation on the best darned lake in the country to my mind. I recently took the kids to LA/San Diego area for four days and spent double what you did for Clear Lake for five. These are all just points of comparison.
If we have a problem with non boaters not kicking in for expenses I'm more then ready to listen to ways to either get that done or keep boaters costs down. But the one thing I'll add is that it's the boater who ultimately determines how much running around they're going to do and rarely does a non boater tell them to go to the other side of the lake. These folks would be just as easily pleased by fishing on 'this' side of the lake and if they don't catch good fish, so be it. It's never been about that anyway, it's about spending quality time with someone and sharing some laughs and good times. It's always worked for me that way but I never care where I end up on the leaderboard.
Thanks for driving so far to come to the event Mitch, we truly do appreciate it and hope you'll consider just coming on up and going fishing next time around and maybe cut down on the expense if that's a concern.
The Western Rally 2006 will be held on Clear Lake at Konocti Vista Casino Resort and Marina August 4-6. We've arranged for a larger block on rooms so just about anyone that wants to stay at rally HQ can do so.
Hope you all come on up and join is as it's still the funnest time fishing you can have.
sTony
That being said I don't end up spending nearly as much money on any of the items you listed out. I don't go up early to get on good fish and my non boaters don't either, we end up just going fishing. I fish with the baits I already paid out for and have in the boat as I have a lot more baits then I ever end up using and I have to use them sometime. I also use baits that are as disposable as some; i.e, frogs, buzzbaits and cranks that I simply don't lose a lot of and worms that I've stocked up on in mass quantities knowing that the fish usually want them. Although I spend all year putting the Rally together I don't get comped a room so I pay what everyone else pays, which for the Rally is the cheapest rate on the lake. My boat this year had a four stroke engine on it which saved me in gas and of course on oil as it doesn't require the additional oil that other engines do. Because I'm not in competitive mode I don't run all over the lake looking for the best fish but tend to stay more local. This year the event was won by someone who never left Lakeport. I got a real nice fish first thing in the morning on Saturday one minute away from the launch ramp and found great fishing within five mintues either side of the main facility. It was interesting to me that I watched so many boats make extremely long runs when there was such good fishing to be had much closer to home and I had my fishing areas pretty much to ourselves throughout the rally. Granted I caught a lot of small fish as well but for me winning the Rally is never my first and foremost concern. My non boaters did extremely well and we just never ventured far to get bit. I didn't go far south at any time with Henderson being the southern most part of the lake I went. I pull into the rally the day before the event starts so costs are less. I also set the price of the rally at $50, the least expensive rally this year when everyone else has raised the price of the rallies across the country each year. When you check in you get a quality hat as a keep sake from the event and tackle that generally equals of better the price of the event itself. This year most folks got a couple bags baits from Yamamoto, a couple of baits from Innovative Tackle, A buzz or spinnerbait, a Poe's crankbait, a couple jigs and boaters got a bottle of NoSweat Mist to clean up their boats. Some folks got Nemire Lures in their bags if we ran out of something else. Many of the baits given out where baits you could use to catch fish during the rally. It's never an easy to task to bring product sponsors on board but we do the best with what the market will allow. Fishign a rally got everyone two dinners and two lunches as part of the entry fee as well. I ended up buying breakfast and drinks and that's about it. If you were fishing a Pro Am events as a boater you're expenses would be significantly more but this is designed to be a fun fishing event at most. My expenses were as such:
Gas for Tahoe...........$ 75.00
Gas for Boat.............. 60.00
Oil............................. 0.00
Gas additive............. 0.00
1 room for 3 nights 195.00
Food......................... 35.00
Ralley entry.............. 50.00
Baits......................... 0.00
Total $ 415.00
The price averages out to $138 a day for three days.
Your cost averaged out to $170 a day for five days.
Still not bad for a vacation on the best darned lake in the country to my mind. I recently took the kids to LA/San Diego area for four days and spent double what you did for Clear Lake for five. These are all just points of comparison.
If we have a problem with non boaters not kicking in for expenses I'm more then ready to listen to ways to either get that done or keep boaters costs down. But the one thing I'll add is that it's the boater who ultimately determines how much running around they're going to do and rarely does a non boater tell them to go to the other side of the lake. These folks would be just as easily pleased by fishing on 'this' side of the lake and if they don't catch good fish, so be it. It's never been about that anyway, it's about spending quality time with someone and sharing some laughs and good times. It's always worked for me that way but I never care where I end up on the leaderboard.
Thanks for driving so far to come to the event Mitch, we truly do appreciate it and hope you'll consider just coming on up and going fishing next time around and maybe cut down on the expense if that's a concern.
The Western Rally 2006 will be held on Clear Lake at Konocti Vista Casino Resort and Marina August 4-6. We've arranged for a larger block on rooms so just about anyone that wants to stay at rally HQ can do so.
Hope you all come on up and join is as it's still the funnest time fishing you can have.
sTony
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I to have cut way back on fishing this summer. I did go out to the Delta 2 weeks ago and when i left the Pumps my bill was also $185.00. 2005 I fished 16 tournaments so far with only one left to fish this year the Federation Classic. Next year if the gas prices stay up I will be fishing under 10 tournaments.
Good Points sTony,
I too look at the Rally more as Vacation than a tournament. Yes, I came up a couple of days (early Thurs AM) before the Rally started but that was more to show a buddy around that had never been there and to just plain enjoy fishin' one of the BEST bass lakes in our wonderful country.
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Gas for Avalanche...........$ 225 (drove up from So. Cal ended up in Paradise)
Gas for Boat..................$ 120
Oil...............................$ 18
1/2 room for 2 nights .....$ 75
1/3 room for 2 nights .....$ 50
Room for 1 night ...........$ 75 (had to go out and find Korny's frog bite...and I did
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Food...........................$ 50.00
Ralley entry..................$ 50.00
Baits................. .........$ 00.00 (used what I had)
TOTAL ........................$ 663 4 1/2 days at $148/day
Price to meet and make new friends, picking up a stranded angler so he can fish (he got ODDNUT), to get to watch young Jason C. catch a 4 lber, to watch Connie and Killer catch'em on Topwater Sunday Night, and to get to fish Clear Lake for 4 1/2 days with no PRESSURE...PRICECLESS! A true blessing if you ask me!
Ya gotta love this life. I am ALL IN for next year sTony and if there is anything I can do to help make sure to let me know!
Have I cut back on my tournament ventures because of the higher gas prices...hell yes...but that way I can still make sure I make the PRICELESS events like the B/C Memorial, Pro-Teen, and the Rally.
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Gas for Avalanche...........$ 225 (drove up from So. Cal ended up in Paradise)
Gas for Boat..................$ 120
Oil...............................$ 18
1/2 room for 2 nights .....$ 75
1/3 room for 2 nights .....$ 50
Room for 1 night ...........$ 75 (had to go out and find Korny's frog bite...and I did
)Food...........................$ 50.00
Ralley entry..................$ 50.00
Baits................. .........$ 00.00 (used what I had)
TOTAL ........................$ 663 4 1/2 days at $148/day
Price to meet and make new friends, picking up a stranded angler so he can fish (he got ODDNUT), to get to watch young Jason C. catch a 4 lber, to watch Connie and Killer catch'em on Topwater Sunday Night, and to get to fish Clear Lake for 4 1/2 days with no PRESSURE...PRICECLESS! A true blessing if you ask me!
Ya gotta love this life. I am ALL IN for next year sTony and if there is anything I can do to help make sure to let me know!
Have I cut back on my tournament ventures because of the higher gas prices...hell yes...but that way I can still make sure I make the PRICELESS events like the B/C Memorial, Pro-Teen, and the Rally.
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fishing could be expensive sometimes.............
my trip to trinity was the best this year
usually i spend about 200 on lures and gas well about 160 on gas. i am usually up there from sunday till saturday.this yea i tink i got awar with only 75....i did less running and more fishing.
this year i went in to my own little fishing store in my office (storage closet) and took everything i thought would work or wanted to try off my shelf. that filled up about a grocery bag. on top of it i have about 10 trays already loaded up in the boat....never knew i had so much stuff....
my gas ...i got a nice. shiney 78 monark w/ a 90 hp mercury..my gas tank is only about 15 gallons. it's still like 45 or so dollars to fill...when i go out with other pals, i chip in, usually for a days of fishing he gets the truck or i get the boat...or 50/50.................
over the years i think everytime i think i might be going out fishing i go out shopping...BAD HABBIT!!!!!!!............this year i am not going to do the same ...........i still got too much...unless i really need them
even tho fishing can get affected by the dollars.......try not to think of it..just enjoy it.....i actually perfer to go out solo. i like it. i fish the way i feel i need to to, i can actually let my instincts take me to the lunker.
my truck a gmc sonoma with the 4 x 4 package v6..gas 45 doallar of super
my boat the ole monark w/90 another 30 or so dollars.........
bridge toll depends if i go 80 or 101...4.50-7.50
i am looking fo another boat. sure did like that ride in cooch's hoover.......but those bigger bass boats w/ 55 gallons of drink im stuck! 55 dollar x 3.00. i have been also told by another angler that dorve around a ranger 521 w/225 optimax all week on one tank. so maybe i could fill up the boat once and fish atleast 3 trip s out of it...
and i kinda want a 2500 crew cab too...eekk i think i got the fishing truck for me already. boat wise i am lookiong for a 18 ft w/ 200. i just don't know if it is worth it.
mitch if i got to the next rally and i pick you as a partner i got 50 on it.........
remember the price to get away from everyting is already the big prize!!!!..........saLTIE-
usually i spend about 200 on lures and gas well about 160 on gas. i am usually up there from sunday till saturday.this yea i tink i got awar with only 75....i did less running and more fishing.
this year i went in to my own little fishing store in my office (storage closet) and took everything i thought would work or wanted to try off my shelf. that filled up about a grocery bag. on top of it i have about 10 trays already loaded up in the boat....never knew i had so much stuff....
my gas ...i got a nice. shiney 78 monark w/ a 90 hp mercury..my gas tank is only about 15 gallons. it's still like 45 or so dollars to fill...when i go out with other pals, i chip in, usually for a days of fishing he gets the truck or i get the boat...or 50/50.................
over the years i think everytime i think i might be going out fishing i go out shopping...BAD HABBIT!!!!!!!............this year i am not going to do the same ...........i still got too much...unless i really need them
even tho fishing can get affected by the dollars.......try not to think of it..just enjoy it.....i actually perfer to go out solo. i like it. i fish the way i feel i need to to, i can actually let my instincts take me to the lunker.
my truck a gmc sonoma with the 4 x 4 package v6..gas 45 doallar of super
my boat the ole monark w/90 another 30 or so dollars.........
bridge toll depends if i go 80 or 101...4.50-7.50
i am looking fo another boat. sure did like that ride in cooch's hoover.......but those bigger bass boats w/ 55 gallons of drink im stuck! 55 dollar x 3.00. i have been also told by another angler that dorve around a ranger 521 w/225 optimax all week on one tank. so maybe i could fill up the boat once and fish atleast 3 trip s out of it...
and i kinda want a 2500 crew cab too...eekk i think i got the fishing truck for me already. boat wise i am lookiong for a 18 ft w/ 200. i just don't know if it is worth it.
mitch if i got to the next rally and i pick you as a partner i got 50 on it.........
remember the price to get away from everyting is already the big prize!!!!..........saLTIE-
i think i need a few more rods!!
Re: fishing could be expensive sometimes.............
saLTIE,saLTY- wrote:i have been also told by another angler that dorve around a ranger 521 w/225 optimax all week on one tank. so maybe i could fill up the boat once and fish atleast 3 trip s out of it...
I did just that for the Rally at Clearlake...filled the boat up on the way up, fished for 4 1/2 days and still had around a half of one tank when I left
BTW...I run a Ranger 521VX with an Evinrude 225HO and tend to have a heavy right foot I even fished most of Rattlesnake and part way down into the South Basin I spent most of my time in Lakeport or around Hendersen during the Rally. Thank goodness my hands have finally healed 
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miklanderson
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Re: Gas and fishing
It typically costs me around 150 for a day on the delta with gas for the boat and truck and food and drinks, ect... Clear Lake costs me more for the gas for the truck but less for the boat. Last time I went up there I launched in Clearlake and ran 5 minutes if that. I only fired up the big motor 2 more times for the day and made short runs both times. It seems like everywhere we stopped we were on fish...what a great fishery...
If I take someone out with me I dont expect them to help pay for the costs. I usually turn it down when my fishing partners offer to help with expenses. I'd be out there fishing anyways and I enjoy the company of a good friend while out on the water...
If I take someone out with me I dont expect them to help pay for the costs. I usually turn it down when my fishing partners offer to help with expenses. I'd be out there fishing anyways and I enjoy the company of a good friend while out on the water...
I'd have to agree...from a non-boater to now a boater
I've been lucky enough to now have a boat at my disposal. I'm sure many of you have seen my posts "Open..BACKSEAT" I'm returning the favor of all those who offered backseats to me in the past in the spirit of fishing. However, that doesn't pay the bills so I try to only go out when I'm planning on going out anyway and really appreciate it when backseaters offer money for gas but I never do take it. ( Maybe because they actually offered) now if someone doesn't offer to pay anything...launch,gas,food, etc.... well then that's a different story. I enjoy the company and so far I have been lucky to meet some terrific people and that's.... PRICELESS. If any of you have free days during the week and want to go fishing...drop me a line....just a few minutes from Orwood or Holland. Tight Lines!
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The last time I went out I spend about 20 bucks. How was this done?
-Use a free launch ramp 30 minutes away from my house (burned about 4 gal)
-Fished only Lost and Snodgrass Slough (2 miles away from ramp)
-Operate my 45hp OB on my tin boat burned about 3 gal
I'm now in no hurry to run my 200hp 488vs.
-Use a free launch ramp 30 minutes away from my house (burned about 4 gal)
-Fished only Lost and Snodgrass Slough (2 miles away from ramp)
-Operate my 45hp OB on my tin boat burned about 3 gal
I'm now in no hurry to run my 200hp 488vs.
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Mitch and sTony. This is mostly addressed towards Mitch, and no
dis-respect intended. I was at the Rally, as a non-boater, and did
have the pleasure of fishing with Mitch on the Sat afternoon session. I asked everyone of my boaters, at the end of each fish
out, what I owed for the fuel and told them to not be bashful and tried to add another five dollars to each one's mention of price.
So I do hope that was fair. Mitch, if I owe you more, please email and let me know and I will surely send you more, as I know fuel, etc is not cheap. This is always in the back of my mind and I hear
sTony and others mention the fact of non-boaters no forgetting to
help the boater with cost. My other boaters are also invited to email and tell me if they feel I owe them more $$$. You know who
you were. The price of fuel, etc is going to effect a lot of us and we
need to work together to get through it and be able to enjoy our
sport and tounaments.. Bill K
dis-respect intended. I was at the Rally, as a non-boater, and did
have the pleasure of fishing with Mitch on the Sat afternoon session. I asked everyone of my boaters, at the end of each fish
out, what I owed for the fuel and told them to not be bashful and tried to add another five dollars to each one's mention of price.
So I do hope that was fair. Mitch, if I owe you more, please email and let me know and I will surely send you more, as I know fuel, etc is not cheap. This is always in the back of my mind and I hear
sTony and others mention the fact of non-boaters no forgetting to
help the boater with cost. My other boaters are also invited to email and tell me if they feel I owe them more $$$. You know who
you were. The price of fuel, etc is going to effect a lot of us and we
need to work together to get through it and be able to enjoy our
sport and tounaments.. Bill K
Fun fishing the country, each and every week.
Well, I will add this.....
Yes, operating a boat is expensive.....just read my article in the library called "Buying a Bass boat....do your homework". I address the concerns you have all aired.
I'll give you my perspective. I am happy just to have people offer. I look at it this way. I am going to be there fishing whether or not I have a backseater. If my backseater buys me a beer at the end of the day and says thank you for the day, or offers me money and I refuse, that is enough for me.
Here's another example - I loaned my boat out for the Pro-Teen, so that a young pro could get a teen out on the water for the day. The young pro ended up burning close to 30 gallons of gas for the day. He came to me and asked me what he owed at the end of the day, I replied "Nothing, thanks for helping out".
I guess it does all come down to perspective. I am not rich in the monetary sense (I do websites, which ain't the way to get rich quick HAR) but I am rich in accomplishment and in a sense of pride, which goes almost far as the money does.
Thanks to all of you who attended the Rally and thanks to all who supported us in this wonderful event.
Let's just go fishin!!
I'll give you my perspective. I am happy just to have people offer. I look at it this way. I am going to be there fishing whether or not I have a backseater. If my backseater buys me a beer at the end of the day and says thank you for the day, or offers me money and I refuse, that is enough for me.
Here's another example - I loaned my boat out for the Pro-Teen, so that a young pro could get a teen out on the water for the day. The young pro ended up burning close to 30 gallons of gas for the day. He came to me and asked me what he owed at the end of the day, I replied "Nothing, thanks for helping out".
I guess it does all come down to perspective. I am not rich in the monetary sense (I do websites, which ain't the way to get rich quick HAR) but I am rich in accomplishment and in a sense of pride, which goes almost far as the money does.
Thanks to all of you who attended the Rally and thanks to all who supported us in this wonderful event.
Let's just go fishin!!
I have been miss-understood........
The purpose of my post was not to start a riot.....but to let non-boaters see the expense of the boater. I don't expect anything in return from my non-boater but a reasonable consideration for the cost of fuel. Bill K........you were more than reasonable, and if you remember....you offered $ 25 and I only accepeted $ 20. I felt this was adiquite and was very pleased. In the past, I've been STIFFED and offered as little as $ 5. I fished as an Am for many years and NEVER left my boater without a FAIR amount of re-embusement. This year at the ralley I had 2 of my 3 non-boaters treat me more than fair. My OTHER asked me for a bag of worms to use with his next draw and gave me $ 10 bucks !!!! That works out to be $ 6 for a half day fishing and gas. Hardly fair, but will it change my mind about fishing any more.............I doubt it. Just Look for me at the next rally too.
One more thing.......
Sorry, but must add this comment.
I'm not really looking for the help on expenses ( I really don't need assistance on finances to fish ) as much as I feel the respect of the non-boater to make the gesture. Even Rick Clunn was pleased, and did accept my offer ($50) when I was lucky enough to fish with him at a BASS Tour event. Some of the excuses and means of avoiding the situation have really been quite comical...............lol lol YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!!!!
LOL LOL LOL
OH and by the way............I'm not MAD.......Just venting !!!!!!!!
I'm not really looking for the help on expenses ( I really don't need assistance on finances to fish ) as much as I feel the respect of the non-boater to make the gesture. Even Rick Clunn was pleased, and did accept my offer ($50) when I was lucky enough to fish with him at a BASS Tour event. Some of the excuses and means of avoiding the situation have really been quite comical...............lol lol YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE !!!!!
LOL LOL LOL
OH and by the way............I'm not MAD.......Just venting !!!!!!!!
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mark poulson
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Non-boater fee
sTony,
Our club has a specified non-boater fee posted before each tourney. It varies from lake to lake, depending on launch ramp charges and distance, but it takes all the pressure off the boater/non-boater relationship up front. Everyone knows what the tarrif is, and there's no questions or misunderstandings. Maybe you could do the same for the Rally.
Our club has a specified non-boater fee posted before each tourney. It varies from lake to lake, depending on launch ramp charges and distance, but it takes all the pressure off the boater/non-boater relationship up front. Everyone knows what the tarrif is, and there's no questions or misunderstandings. Maybe you could do the same for the Rally.
Attitude plus effort equal success
CLEAN AND DRY
CLEAN AND DRY
Re: Gas and fishing
Thanks for the suggestion Mark. It is somehting we'll likely implement for the next rally.
sTony
sTony
Re: Gas and fishing
sTony, that might be a good idea as it allows the non-boater to know what is expected, up front, and would stop any misunderstanding about cost shareing, etc. Mitch, I do not feel you were starting a riot, etc either. I think you had a good point and brought up a issue that this forum should discuss and get viewpoints from some of the nutcase's on it. This is a good place to discuss and share info and this one was well worth it. See you
at the next Rally also, this time maybe we can place better. Would be another pleasure to fish with you and talk. Bill K.
at the next Rally also, this time maybe we can place better. Would be another pleasure to fish with you and talk. Bill K.
Fun fishing the country, each and every week.
Ralley Expenses
I have traveled with Mitch to ProAms for several years and have been friends with him longer than that..
We both take our own boats to events and our expenses are always about the same...
I didn't feel that Mitch's post was all about nonboater help, rather
it was simply showing the true cost of fishing events such as the Rally...
Neither of us need any "help" with expenses!!!! Personally I don't accept money from Am's or nonboaters...They don't have any say on my boat about where we fish so I don't expect any money...However, that being said... if they don't offer...then they should stay home...When I don't accept the offer that is up to me...But offer anyway...many nongoaters simply leave money in my glovebox or truck for me to find later...It is the offer that means more to us than the money...I would feel stiffed if no offer was made...and would tell my friends, who stiffed me...if that is the reputation that the nonboaters want.....believe me...we all talk among ourselves and I would proaby ask for a redraw if I was paired with someone who stiffed any of my friends...
I spent about the same on the Rally as Mitch and will proably fish next year, if my health allows..
I had a great time at the Rally...it was nice to just go fishing without the pressure that come with ProAms..
However, with the high cost of gas I will choose a tournament circuit next season closer to home...It just isn't the tournament cost...I will prefish my tournaments at least three to four times and it adds up...
See you in January "Korny"
JT-Madera
P.S. If any of you nonboaters want a shot at the next Rally OddNut Award I am accepting bids from all...If I can't win the tournament at least I can put you on Big Catfish...
We both take our own boats to events and our expenses are always about the same...
I didn't feel that Mitch's post was all about nonboater help, rather
it was simply showing the true cost of fishing events such as the Rally...
Neither of us need any "help" with expenses!!!! Personally I don't accept money from Am's or nonboaters...They don't have any say on my boat about where we fish so I don't expect any money...However, that being said... if they don't offer...then they should stay home...When I don't accept the offer that is up to me...But offer anyway...many nongoaters simply leave money in my glovebox or truck for me to find later...It is the offer that means more to us than the money...I would feel stiffed if no offer was made...and would tell my friends, who stiffed me...if that is the reputation that the nonboaters want.....believe me...we all talk among ourselves and I would proaby ask for a redraw if I was paired with someone who stiffed any of my friends...
I spent about the same on the Rally as Mitch and will proably fish next year, if my health allows..
I had a great time at the Rally...it was nice to just go fishing without the pressure that come with ProAms..
However, with the high cost of gas I will choose a tournament circuit next season closer to home...It just isn't the tournament cost...I will prefish my tournaments at least three to four times and it adds up...
See you in January "Korny"
JT-Madera
P.S. If any of you nonboaters want a shot at the next Rally OddNut Award I am accepting bids from all...If I can't win the tournament at least I can put you on Big Catfish...
I think everyone is
making great points regarding the "sharing of fuel costs." As a nonboater, who only been out once on the Delta with a friend, I believe that there should be guidelines set for cost sharing. I think Mark Poulson has a great idea on how to make that happen. A predetermined fee to the boater will relieve pressure from both, the nonboater and the boater, and allow each of them to enjoy the great time they were looking for when they signed up for the event. Yes, gas prices are very high these days, and I bet they will be even higher, but as Bill K has stated, we DO NEED to help one another out. We are a family. We are all in the same boat (we love the sport of fishing), so lets work together and make our next trip on the water better than the last one by helping eachother out.
-BassinRob
(Nonboater)
"Never Give Up!"
"Boats don't run on water. Think about your boater."
(Nonboater)
"Never Give Up!"
"Boats don't run on water. Think about your boater."
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Fishin' Dave
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Re: Gas and fishing
Here's my rule of thumb for gas expenses
If I pick all the spots and choose to run around like a mad man; then I pay.
If I get an am or non boater who wants to make a long run to a spot, he pays.
If we take home a check, forget about it! Espically if my am put me on fish!
Usualy the $$ gets stuffed in my pocket as guys do not want to be stiffs. I think 95% of us hold the same values in life and one of them is you pay you own way son, and return what you borrow in BETTER condition than it was loaned to you.
If I pick all the spots and choose to run around like a mad man; then I pay.
If I get an am or non boater who wants to make a long run to a spot, he pays.
If we take home a check, forget about it! Espically if my am put me on fish!
Usualy the $$ gets stuffed in my pocket as guys do not want to be stiffs. I think 95% of us hold the same values in life and one of them is you pay you own way son, and return what you borrow in BETTER condition than it was loaned to you.
First Time Boater
This was my first time as a boater for the Rally, or any other NutCase event for that matter.
In all the years that I was a non-boater I tried to give my boater some dough. Sometimes they took it other times they didn't. I'm not exactly sure who it was, I think it was DeWayne, that refused my offer of money by saying, 'Hey, I was going fishing anyway. Having you along just made it more fun.' I though that was totally cool and decide that that was what I would do if I ever did get a boat. And I did, although, some folks will stuff money in your pocket even when you protest. Go figure.
I made several runs across that lake, from one end to the other and back and forth. It was totally my choice to make these long runs and burn up a bunch of gas and oil. My non-boaters didn't have any say in it. Dang it was fun. Running near WOT on a wide open lake, (when you aren't near Konocti Harbor that is), something you don't get to do much of on the Delta unless you are loony.
But you know what I would have really liked, I wish someone had helped me clean up my boat when I pulled it out of the water.
Next year my buddy will probably insist on bringing his boat and I will once again be a non-boater. I plan to be out in the parking lot on Sunday with some rags to help any boaters with their wipe down and general boat cleanup.
- Wolfeman
In all the years that I was a non-boater I tried to give my boater some dough. Sometimes they took it other times they didn't. I'm not exactly sure who it was, I think it was DeWayne, that refused my offer of money by saying, 'Hey, I was going fishing anyway. Having you along just made it more fun.' I though that was totally cool and decide that that was what I would do if I ever did get a boat. And I did, although, some folks will stuff money in your pocket even when you protest. Go figure.
I made several runs across that lake, from one end to the other and back and forth. It was totally my choice to make these long runs and burn up a bunch of gas and oil. My non-boaters didn't have any say in it. Dang it was fun. Running near WOT on a wide open lake, (when you aren't near Konocti Harbor that is), something you don't get to do much of on the Delta unless you are loony.
But you know what I would have really liked, I wish someone had helped me clean up my boat when I pulled it out of the water.
Next year my buddy will probably insist on bringing his boat and I will once again be a non-boater. I plan to be out in the parking lot on Sunday with some rags to help any boaters with their wipe down and general boat cleanup.
- Wolfeman
"Don't take life too seriously. You're not getting out alive." Bugs Bunny
Thanks Jim and Bill
Your comments truley state the purpose of my post. It's always mentioned at the first pairings about gas money and even suggestions on how much. It just seems to go in one ear and out the other on SOME. I really appriciate the offer and not always accept, but really guys, make a REASONABLE offer. I'd like to see a required amount and then all the BS would stop. Matter of fact I'd LOVE to see that and I know there are many others who will agree with me. As for now..............lets get back to FISHING !!!
See ya at the next RALLEY
See ya at the next RALLEY
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mac (Doyle McEwen)
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Good idea Wolfeman
I was really remiss in not even offering to help wipe the boats down..Honestly it never occured to me at the time..Shame on me..I will definitely try and remedy that situation the next time..
mac
mac
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