Yamaha Vmax 250 SHO

[offduty]

Does anyone have this motor? I just blew my 97 225 Yamaha TLRP and am thinking I am going to have a 250 SHO put on My 99 TR-21. I am looking for feedback on the new Yamaha 250 4 stroke SHO and I need a 20" lower end.
Rich

[KPalmer]

That would be like polishing a turd...lol

Just messin with you, but seriously if you were going to spend that kind of coin on a new motor, you would probably be better off selling your boat "as is" and buying a 2007 or newer boat for the same price.

[offduty]

That would be like polishing a turd...lol

Just messin with you, but seriously if you were going to spend that kind of coin on a new motor, you would probably be better off selling your boat "as is" and buying a 2007 or newer boat for the same price.

My TR-21 looks almost new and I am happy with Triton and its rough water ride. What I do need is a new motor. I already bought a used boat with a used motor and took the gamble. A new motor would have a warranty and since my hull has no scratches on the running surface and looks as good as most 2007 or newer boats why would I want to do that? It would cost me more money and I would have somebody's used motor that may have been run hard and not cared for very well.

Palmer you must be part of the Ranger crowd huh? Now don't take offense Ranger boys I just want a little more vee to smooth out the bumps for my old azz.

If anyone has any experience with the Yamaha 250 SHO I would love to hear it.

Rich

[KPalmer]

Like I said, I was just messin with you....haha.

Actually I own a triton..mine is 2004 and looks like it's been through a Sh$t storm....you wouldn't want to see where I've taken my boat. That's awesome you have taken great care of yours. You are the exception I'm sure... I am curious about the SHO as well...looks like an awesome motor...good luck

[S. Bailey]

my partner billy skinner has been running a 250 yamaha sho and its a bad a$$ motor bro. its super powerfull and great on gas. we fish a ton out of it and its been awesome. totally wish I had one on my boat. def recommend it. pm if you have any other questions about it.

[Kevin]

SHO has a max 3 year warranty while Pro XS has a 5 year warranty.

[offduty]

my partner billy skinner has been running a 250 yamaha sho and its a bad a$$ motor bro. its super powerfull and great on gas. we fish a ton out of it and its been awesome. totally wish I had one on my boat. def recommend it. pm if you have any other questions about it.

Shaun
I'm getting it for sure and am glad to hear the positive feedback on it. Still waiting on the 25 swamp donkeys, you ship UPS or USPS? I cant wait to get this motor on my boat but damn it's gonna be a chunk of change. Looks like I will be working 20 out of 28 days till the OT dries up right before christmas as usual.

Rich

[offduty]

SHO has a max 3 year warranty while Pro XS has a 5 year warranty.

Kevin

That Pro XS is a sweet motor but I don't want to feed it oil anymore.

Thanks Rich

[Robert F]

SHO has a max 3 year warranty while Pro XS has a 5 year warranty.

Kevin

That Pro XS is a sweet motor but I don't want to feed it oil anymore.

Thanks Rich

Pretty sure that XS eats more coils than oil.

[Bassgod]

I have been reading allot about the new SHO also. Here is something I found shocking recently when they tested 2 brand new boats with a 250 Pro XS and a 250 SHO. Same driver, same model boat, same setup. The Merc beats the SHO overall in fuel mileage, and is a bit faster it looks like. The oil cost may be countered by the fuel cost, but on a SHo you wont have to hassle with adding oil all the time. Required maintenance on the SHO is still something I am reading into.
Here are the numbers from another site:
Merc 250 Pro XS
30mph @ 3230 RPM @ 6.1gph < Against the wind

30 mph @ 3130 RPM @ 5.6 gph > With the wind

35 mph @ 3490 RPM @ 7.1 gph < Against the wind

35 mph @ 3380 RPM @ 7.0 gph> With the wind

40 mph @ 4030 rpm @ 8.6 gph < Against the wind

40.5 mph @ 3930 @ 8.2 gph > With the wind

40.0 mph @ 3820 @ 7.8 -7.9 gph > With the Wind

45 mph @ 4350 @ 9.7 gph < Against the wind

45 mph @ 4220 @ 9.1 gph > With the wind

50 mph @ 4520 &10.0 to 10.3 gph > With the wind

50 mph @ 4480 @ 11.3 gph < Against the wind

55 @ 4680 @ 10.8 gph > With the wind

55 @ 4730 @ 11.5 gph < Against the wind

59.8-60.2 @ 4900@11.2 > With the wind

60.2 @ 5010 @ 12.8 gph < Against the wind

65.3. @ 5230 @12.9 gph > With the wind

65 @ 5500 @ 13.2 gph < Against the wind

70.2 @5590@ 15.2 > With the wind

70 @ 5640 @ 15.8 gph < Against the wind

75 @ 5780 @ 18.3 gph > With the wind

75.3 @ 5880 @ 18.5 gph > With the wind




Yamaha 250 SHO
30 mph @ 3100 - 6.3 gph

35 mph @ 3540 @ 8.2 gph

40 mph @ 3980 @ 9.1 gph

45 mph @ 4480 @ 10.6 gph

50 mph @ 4560 @ 10.1 gph

55 mph @ 4720 @ 13.2

60 mph @ 4900 @ 14.2 gph

65 mph @ 5210 @ 15.3 gph

70 mph @ 5520 @ 18.0 gph

75 mph @ 5840 @ 19.2 gph

[ash]

I have only heard feedback from one person Mike at C&C - he has a love hate with the SHO - his customers love them and he hates them as he is not seeing them in the shop for warranty repair work

SHO does look like a nice engine.

[Kevin]

You're sick in the head Robert.
Ash, you're pretty funny too.

[macinckirk]

I would LOVE to have 1

[Robert F]

You're sick in the head Robert.
Ash, you're pretty funny too.

Just love to get you Merc guys roiled up.
As far a Bassgod's stats, a 2 stroke is faster but the 4 stroke has the holeshot and is long gone before that 2 stroke gets up to speed. Both are great motors. After owning an Evinrude I would be most concerned about great service nearby. My Evinrude service in San Diego sucked.

[ASD]

Ha give me that old worn out I class u got an go get a new FX

[macinckirk]

Ha give me that old worn out I class u got an go get a new FX

what ever your on at this time in the morning you may just went to slow down just alittle

a new boate is not in the game plan the wife would not like that

[ASD]

I was just trying to help a brotha out

[Flippinjigs]

The new Yamaha SHO is the way to go no matter what others say, (in my opinion). I am very one sided on this issue (as you can tell).

Having owned only two Yamaha outboards in 23 years without any issues. One Yamaha Pro-V 150 for 18 years (never in the Shop) And now my Yamaha VMax 225 for 5 years with no issues. After looking at the MERC numbers posted they don't blow you out of the water "who cares" (someone is penny pinching here). Very one has a love affair with the equipment they run (I certainty do). The Yamaha Brand has worked great for me for 23 yeras and is very dependable. If I had to repower; The Yamaha SHO would be my choice, without looking at any numbers. Just Because of my past experiences.

Good Luck
&
Good Fishin

[bigbass111]

I have heard mixed reviews from alot of my friends back east. For one, the fuel econmy is even worse than posted above. The guys I know that now own the SHO say it sucks about 10% more fuel than the XS did. Their top ends are also down by about 4 MPH.

But the biggest issue they are having is overheating. Running through hydrilla beds and pad roots are a nightmare. They both have tooth brushes on pipeing to reach the lower intakes.

Out in FL we would run top end through miles of solid hydrilla, duck weed, pepper grass and kissimmee grass. Our boats would run 10 mph slower at top end due to the weed pressure and very few times would the XS overheat. The Yamaha guys were the only ones driving around or sitting flat waiting for their motors to stop beeping. The ETEC's seem to do just fine too, if they were not blowing lower units or powerheads.

True stuff guys...

I know merc has had some plug and coil problems but, look at how many there are out there. If there's 3x more of one thing, you will see three times the issues...The merc's I ran were all solid. I can't wait for my next one.

[offduty]

It was not easy to find but I think I can pick up a motor from Costa Mesa the beginning of next week. If not I got one on the east coast waiting.

Rich

[afdean]

I'm with Robert on the Pro XS. Two coils in two years, both when I needed the time on the water NOT in the shop. Last go-around they did replace all of the existing coils. Lets hope they last more than 2 years

I know everything has its good and bad... the coils have definitely been the bad for my XS.

[tunaman]

Bummer... had my Pro XS for over four years now and not a coil issue one (knock on wood)!

Heard some really good things about the Yamaha's when the BASS guys were here, but perhaps much of that was hype? They were talking then about the fuel conservation and performance advantages, which seems counter to reality based on the information posted above?

The Yamaha's have always been challenging through the grass, as I understood it, as it was noted that they had to be careful even going through Frank's with the grass mats when running ... shouldn't come as much of a surprise there.

Roger

[j10b]

SHO has a max 3 year warranty while Pro XS has a 5 year warranty.

Kevin

That Pro XS is a sweet motor but I don't want to feed it oil anymore.

Thanks Rich

If you reasoning is that you run through 20 gallons of Premium plus.. its 15$ at BPS so that is 300$ a year. And that $300 is too much then go with the SHO

I destroyed a 250 SHO 20FX at the BASS OPEN whom was already on plane and 10 boat lengths ahead ( thanks to the moron in the nitro that cut in) With a 21XRD Bullet 250XS. I have about 60 hours on the motor and used less than 8 gallons of oil, in those 60 hours and that is with 2 break in periods( one was because I changed the impeller). I dont even think its 8

I do not run my boat enough to need to buy a brand new motor so I can save 150-300 bucks on oil.

If I was a guide. Sure. But you can get a used XS with a warranty for enough of a savings that you will not make up the difference in oil in 10 years.

[j10b]

I have heard mixed reviews from alot of my friends back east. For one, the fuel econmy is even worse than posted above. The guys I know that now own the SHO say it sucks about 10% more fuel than the XS did. Their top ends are also down by about 4 MPH.

But the biggest issue they are having is overheating. Running through hydrilla beds and pad roots are a nightmare. They both have tooth brushes on pipeing to reach the lower intakes.

Out in FL we would run top end through miles of solid hydrilla, duck weed, pepper grass and kissimmee grass. Our boats would run 10 mph slower at top end due to the weed pressure and very few times would the XS overheat. The Yamaha guys were the only ones driving around or sitting flat waiting for their motors to stop beeping. The ETEC's seem to do just fine too, if they were not blowing lower units or powerheads.

True stuff guys...

I know merc has had some plug and coil problems but, look at how many there are out there. If there's 3x more of one thing, you will see three times the issues...The merc's I ran were all solid. I can't wait for my next one.

Dont even get me started on the BS they slung out there trying to get people to buy. If I put a 25p on my Bullet there would be no holeshot. I would hit 2500 rpm and be on plane. The nose wouldnt even rise. Granted I would be stuck at 78mph if I was lucky.

They are a 72-74 tournament boat, thats a 20FX with a 250 SHO. The oils changes can cost about $77 if you are paying and DIY, to much more. So the savings is only for guides PAYING for it and on the water 360 days a year.

Dont even get me started on the lower unit issues. I got all of my numbers from skeeter so I am not posting them, but I was impressive for a skeeter, not for ANY other brand.

Fuel economy SUCKS, and the only 2 stroke its beating is another Yammie

[j10b]

You're sick in the head Robert.
Ash, you're pretty funny too.

Just love to get you Merc guys roiled up.
As far a Bassgod's stats, a 2 stroke is faster but the 4 stroke has the holeshot and is long gone before that 2 stroke gets up to speed. Both are great motors. After owning an Evinrude I would be most concerned about great service nearby. My Evinrude service in San Diego sucked.

Nope Holeshot is the prop and gearing. Ask skeeter if they are willing to share. A 27p to get you the top end will have a mediocre holeshot.

Also I will spot you a 5 sec head start on plane all day. I will catch and pass you 20 sec later.

[Robert F]

You're sick in the head Robert.
Ash, you're pretty funny too.

Just love to get you Merc guys roiled up.
As far a Bassgod's stats, a 2 stroke is faster but the 4 stroke has the holeshot and is long gone before that 2 stroke gets up to speed. Both are great motors. After owning an Evinrude I would be most concerned about great service nearby. My Evinrude service in San Diego sucked.

Nope Holeshot is the prop and gearing. Ask skeeter if they are willing to share. A 27p to get you the top end will have a mediocre holeshot.

Also I will spot you a 5 sec head start on plane all day. I will catch and pass you 20 sec later.

....and torque Johnny boy. It is the only reason to run a 4 stroke as the 2 strokes will always kill the 4 stroke when they get wound up. BTW just leaving your neck of the woods. Need me to pick anything up from the Piggly Wiggly?

[bigbass111]

Robert,

I'll take some spicy boiled peanuts..

YUM, YUM

[offduty]

Got it coming for $18,400.00 out the door with main engine harness.

Rich

[offduty]

I got a call from Richard @ C & C Marine and he has a 250 SHO for a great price. I already bought mine or I would have got it from him. If anyone is looking hit him up. I forgot he was looking for me and bought another. He seems like a great guy and I have only heard positive things about C & C.

Rich

[Robert F]

Robert,

I'll take some spicy boiled peanuts..

YUM, YUM

Never tried them. I did see a lot of places in Georgia that have those. Those crock pots look nasty. I am sure they are better than they look.

[201Pro]

I have been reading allot about the new SHO also. Here is something I found shocking recently when they tested 2 brand new boats with a 250 Pro XS and a 250 SHO. Same driver, same model boat, same setup. The Merc beats the SHO overall in fuel mileage, and is a bit faster it looks like. The oil cost may be countered by the fuel cost, but on a SHo you wont have to hassle with adding oil all the time. Required maintenance on the SHO is still something I am reading into.
Here are the numbers from another site:
Merc 250 Pro XS
30mph @ 3230 RPM @ 6.1gph < Against the wind

30 mph @ 3130 RPM @ 5.6 gph > With the wind

35 mph @ 3490 RPM @ 7.1 gph < Against the wind

35 mph @ 3380 RPM @ 7.0 gph> With the wind

40 mph @ 4030 rpm @ 8.6 gph < Against the wind

40.5 mph @ 3930 @ 8.2 gph > With the wind

40.0 mph @ 3820 @ 7.8 -7.9 gph > With the Wind

45 mph @ 4350 @ 9.7 gph < Against the wind

45 mph @ 4220 @ 9.1 gph > With the wind

50 mph @ 4520 &10.0 to 10.3 gph > With the wind

50 mph @ 4480 @ 11.3 gph < Against the wind

55 @ 4680 @ 10.8 gph > With the wind

55 @ 4730 @ 11.5 gph < Against the wind

59.8-60.2 @ 4900@11.2 > With the wind

60.2 @ 5010 @ 12.8 gph < Against the wind

65.3. @ 5230 @12.9 gph > With the wind

65 @ 5500 @ 13.2 gph < Against the wind

70.2 @5590@ 15.2 > With the wind

70 @ 5640 @ 15.8 gph < Against the wind

75 @ 5780 @ 18.3 gph > With the wind

75.3 @ 5880 @ 18.5 gph > With the wind




Yamaha 250 SHO
30 mph @ 3100 - 6.3 gph

35 mph @ 3540 @ 8.2 gph

40 mph @ 3980 @ 9.1 gph

45 mph @ 4480 @ 10.6 gph

50 mph @ 4560 @ 10.1 gph

55 mph @ 4720 @ 13.2

60 mph @ 4900 @ 14.2 gph

65 mph @ 5210 @ 15.3 gph

70 mph @ 5520 @ 18.0 gph

75 mph @ 5840 @ 19.2 gph

Interesting numbers. Where were these numbers from? Can you please post a link? What would also be interesting is the split times at each point. I've read that the SHO's are faster (not so much in top speed, but time to distance).

[bigbass111]

The pots do look a little disturbing, but the peanuts inside are not. They are probably the most addicting food made...

[Jeff Antenucci]

I have been reading allot about the new SHO also. Here is something I found shocking recently when they tested 2 brand new boats with a 250 Pro XS and a 250 SHO. Same driver, same model boat, same setup. The Merc beats the SHO overall in fuel mileage, and is a bit faster it looks like. The oil cost may be countered by the fuel cost, but on a SHo you wont have to hassle with adding oil all the time. Required maintenance on the SHO is still something I am reading into.
Here are the numbers from another site:
Merc 250 Pro XS
30mph @ 3230 RPM @ 6.1gph < Against the wind

30 mph @ 3130 RPM @ 5.6 gph > With the wind

35 mph @ 3490 RPM @ 7.1 gph < Against the wind

35 mph @ 3380 RPM @ 7.0 gph> With the wind

40 mph @ 4030 rpm @ 8.6 gph < Against the wind

40.5 mph @ 3930 @ 8.2 gph > With the wind

40.0 mph @ 3820 @ 7.8 -7.9 gph > With the Wind

45 mph @ 4350 @ 9.7 gph < Against the wind

45 mph @ 4220 @ 9.1 gph > With the wind

50 mph @ 4520 &10.0 to 10.3 gph > With the wind

50 mph @ 4480 @ 11.3 gph < Against the wind

55 @ 4680 @ 10.8 gph > With the wind

55 @ 4730 @ 11.5 gph < Against the wind

59.8-60.2 @ 4900@11.2 > With the wind

60.2 @ 5010 @ 12.8 gph < Against the wind

65.3. @ 5230 @12.9 gph > With the wind

65 @ 5500 @ 13.2 gph < Against the wind

70.2 @5590@ 15.2 > With the wind

70 @ 5640 @ 15.8 gph < Against the wind

75 @ 5780 @ 18.3 gph > With the wind

75.3 @ 5880 @ 18.5 gph > With the wind




Yamaha 250 SHO
30 mph @ 3100 - 6.3 gph

35 mph @ 3540 @ 8.2 gph

40 mph @ 3980 @ 9.1 gph

45 mph @ 4480 @ 10.6 gph

50 mph @ 4560 @ 10.1 gph

55 mph @ 4720 @ 13.2

60 mph @ 4900 @ 14.2 gph

65 mph @ 5210 @ 15.3 gph

70 mph @ 5520 @ 18.0 gph

75 mph @ 5840 @ 19.2 gph

Interesting numbers. Where were these numbers from? Can you please post a link? What would also be interesting is the split times at each point. I've read that the SHO's are faster (not so much in top speed, but time to distance).

If its the same one I'm lookin at, then its on BCB website.
http://basscatowners.yuku.com/reply/746 ... eply-74677