Here we go again!

[CrankyOne]

https://yubanet.com/regional/lake-tahoe ... n-mussels/

Which lake will it be next week? Any wagers?

[stickbait]

https://yubanet.com/regional/lake-tahoe ... n-mussels/

Which lake will it be next week? Any wagers?

65 fter from the delta to tahoe... that was a crazy tow up hyw 50 for sure and someone didn't think to look at the boat before moving...jeeze !

[WB Staff]

by Tahoe Regional Planning Agency (TRPA)
May 31, 2025
Lake Tahoe, Nev./Calif. — Lake Tahoe watercraft inspectors on Friday identified highly invasive golden mussels on a vessel at the Alpine Meadows, Calif. inspection station. This is the first interception of the new invasive species by Lake Tahoe watercraft inspectors since their first detection in North America in the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta in October, 2024.

“Golden mussels pose an extreme threat to Lake Tahoe and the waters of the region and it is critical that everyone stay vigilant and always Clean, Drain, and Dry all watercraft and equipment when visiting new areas,” said Dennis Zabaglo, aquatic invasive species program manager for the Tahoe Regional Planning Agency (TRPA). “We are fortunate to have such highly trained inspectors and committed partners at marinas and boat ramps, but protecting the waters of the Tahoe Region from the spread of aquatic invasive species takes all of us.”

TRPA and Tahoe Resource Conservation District (Tahoe RCD), which manage the Lake Tahoe Watercraft Inspection Program, strengthened inspection procedures in March in response to the golden mussel discovery just a few hours away from the Tahoe Basin. The agencies added mandatory decontaminations to the required inspection process for all visiting motorized watercraft entering Lake Tahoe, Fallen Leaf Lake, and Echo Lake.

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Caption: A golden mussel attached to the propeller shaft of the vessel that had been in the Sacramento River Delta just days earlier. Golden mussels can survive up to 10 days out of water.
Credit: Tahoe Regional Planning Agency
Caption: A golden mussel attached to the propeller shaft of the vessel that had been in the Sacramento River Delta just days earlier. Golden mussels can survive up to 10 days out of water. Credit: Tahoe Regional Planning Agency
Inspectors at the Alpine Meadows station conducted an initial decontamination of the 65-foot vessel. It will be held under quarantine under California Department of Fish and Wildlife regulations until the vessel is deemed risk-free. Watercraft Inspection Program managers are also coordinating with Nevada Division of Wildlife and other state agencies and continue to share information on all detections with agencies in both states and the western U.S.

As new threats to Lake Tahoe emerge, the emphasis on following Clean, Drain, Dry protocols remains for all boaters, paddlers, anglers, and beachgoers. Golden mussels are not in Lake Tahoe, and following Clean, Drain, Dry protocols will reduce the risk of invasion, according to Tahoe RCD Aquatic Invasive Species Program Manager Chris Killian.

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“With the support of boaters and paddlers, we have kept Lake Tahoe safe from many invasive species, but the survivability of golden mussel and their proximity to Tahoe make them a greater threat than other aquatic invasive species,” Killian said. “The Lake Tahoe inspection program has become a national model because it is so comprehensive. The move to mandatory decontaminations this year was a crucial step to continue protecting the waters of the Tahoe Region for all to enjoy.”

Since their discovery in the Port of Stockton, Calif., golden mussels have been detected as far south as Bakersfield through connected water systems. Areas outside the Tahoe Region have responded to the threat by standing up prevention programs, temporary waterbody closures, and 30-day quarantine periods in some areas.

About Golden Mussels

The golden mussel is a small, yellowish-brown shellfish that can reproduce rapidly in a range of habitats. It is likened to quagga mussel, an invasive species that the Lake Tahoe inspection program has successfully kept out of Lake Tahoe


since its beginning in 2008. Like quagga mussels, golden mussels can encrust boats, piers, rocks, and pipes, but golden mussels can tolerate a broader range of habitats and can reproduce faster, making them more of a threat. If introduced, golden mussels could irreversibly harm Lake Tahoe’s recreation, water quality, and native ecosystem.

Caption: Invasive golden mussels (Limnoperna fortunei) found October, 2024 in Merced County, 70 miles from the mussels’ initial detection point in the Port of Stockton, Calif.
Credit: California Department of Water Resources
Invasive golden mussels are viewed at California Department of Water Resources labs in West Sacramento, Yolo County, California. Photo November 6, 2024. Xavier Mascareñas / California Department of Water Resources
Visit TahoeBoatInspections.com for inspection information, appointments, and to learn how to prevent the spread of aquatic invasive species. Program staff can be reached by email to AIS@TRPA.gov, or by calling (888) 824-6267. For media inquiries, contact Jeff Cowen, TRPA Public Information Officer, at 775-589-5278.

[MGJR]

Anyone believing all these headlines is as gullible as they come. In each instance, Berryessa, Oroville, Tahoe- a boat, which had to have been moored for a prolonged period, in an infected area, sufficient to build up a population of fully grown adult mussels, just so happened to pack up, and head to another reservoir and launch the same day. The statistical improbability is unquestionable for it to happen once, maybe even twice; but this may times under the circumstances is fishy at best. Mark my word - they will lock everything down, institute expensive tags, inspections and decontaminations. Do you think they are doing anything to the ships/persons bringing these into the state in the first place? Nope - you get to pay.

[Kennortonjr]

Anyone believing all these headlines is as gullible as they come. In each instance, Berryessa, Oroville, Tahoe- a boat, which had to have been moored for a prolonged period, in an infected area, sufficient to build up a population of fully grown adult mussels, just so happened to pack up, and head to another reservoir and launch the same day. The statistical improbability is unquestionable for it to happen once, maybe even twice; but this may times under the circumstances is fishy at best. Mark my word - they will lock everything down, institute expensive tags, inspections and decontaminations. Do you think they are doing anything to the ships/persons bringing these into the state in the first place? Nope - you get to pay.

They are obviously more prevalent in the Delta than many of us would have hoped.

It’s funny, I have found in my everyday dealings in life that those prone to “conspiracies” are generally more gullible people….So are all the workers at these inspection stations in on this conspiracy?

I would encourage you to read some of the very insightful links that have been shared in other threads; specifically how this mussel has spread in South America. This is literally how it happens, it’s so crazy to watch people deny it in real time.

[JVGondal]

People are skeptical because of the fake ,over reaction to the COVID scams. You know the difference between the pandemics in the past and the COVID scam?
The people did not need the fake news lies to know there was a deadly virus. They knew by the dead folks all round them

[MGJR]

Anyone believing all these headlines is as gullible as they come. In each instance, Berryessa, Oroville, Tahoe- a boat, which had to have been moored for a prolonged period, in an infected area, sufficient to build up a population of fully grown adult mussels, just so happened to pack up, and head to another reservoir and launch the same day. The statistical improbability is unquestionable for it to happen once, maybe even twice; but this may times under the circumstances is fishy at best. Mark my word - they will lock everything down, institute expensive tags, inspections and decontaminations. Do you think they are doing anything to the ships/persons bringing these into the state in the first place? Nope - you get to pay.

They are obviously more prevalent in the Delta than many of us would have hoped.

It’s funny, I have found in my everyday dealings in life that those prone to “conspiracies” are generally more gullible people….So are all the workers at these inspection stations in on this conspiracy?

I would encourage you to read some of the very insightful links that have been shared in other threads; specifically how this mussel has spread in South America. This is literally how it happens, it’s so crazy to watch people deny it in real time.

Gullible. How about educated and informed? I have a degree in aquatic ecology, worked for nearly two decades as a biologist for state, federal and private institutions. I would venture to guess that you haven't read any of the "literature" you are referring to. If you had, you would understand that the results of that particular paper are highly interpolated and projected based simply on species' tolerances and traits, not on actual wide scale occurrences. Furthermore - a single instance does not simply mean it's applicable everywhere. Yes...the Delta provides an outstanding breeding ground for this particular species - however, that does not mean the entire state does. Nor does it acknowledge the source, again, not addressed. Furthermore, the source should be quarantined. This entire state is hydrologically connected - anything downstream of the California Delta is basically now contaminated. In summation, I agree that there needs to be some action taken; however, I disagree with the approach and foresee years of added costs, despite no real benefit or resolution.

[jiggin4bass]

Still whining huh

[Kennortonjr]

Anyone believing all these headlines is as gullible as they come. In each instance, Berryessa, Oroville, Tahoe- a boat, which had to have been moored for a prolonged period, in an infected area, sufficient to build up a population of fully grown adult mussels, just so happened to pack up, and head to another reservoir and launch the same day. The statistical improbability is unquestionable for it to happen once, maybe even twice; but this may times under the circumstances is fishy at best. Mark my word - they will lock everything down, institute expensive tags, inspections and decontaminations. Do you think they are doing anything to the ships/persons bringing these into the state in the first place? Nope - you get to pay.

They are obviously more prevalent in the Delta than many of us would have hoped.

It’s funny, I have found in my everyday dealings in life that those prone to “conspiracies” are generally more gullible people….So are all the workers at these inspection stations in on this conspiracy?

I would encourage you to read some of the very insightful links that have been shared in other threads; specifically how this mussel has spread in South America. This is literally how it happens, it’s so crazy to watch people deny it in real time.

Gullible. How about educated and informed? I have a degree in aquatic ecology, worked for nearly two decades as a biologist for state, federal and private institutions. I would venture to guess that you haven't read any of the "literature" you are referring to. If you had, you would understand that the results of that particular paper are highly interpolated and projected based simply on species' tolerances and traits, not on actual wide scale occurrences. Furthermore - a single instance does not simply mean it's applicable everywhere. Yes...the Delta provides an outstanding breeding ground for this particular species - however, that does not mean the entire state does. Nor does it acknowledge the source, again, not addressed. Furthermore, the source should be quarantined. This entire state is hydrologically connected - anything downstream of the California Delta is basically now contaminated. In summation, I agree that there needs to be some action taken; however, I disagree with the approach and foresee years of added costs, despite no real benefit or resolution.

Appeal to authority fallacy. And what of the majority of biologists who would likely disagree with your stance? To that point, I'm still not sure what your stance is....? Originally you were implying that the state (presumably) was planting "false flag" boats at inspection sites? Now you say that some action should be taken? It's incredibly easy to sit back and criticize. Could you imagine a government that chose to do nothing? What would John Locke say about that?

Shared in another thread: https://www.science.org/content/article ... ay-be-next

Obviously this paints an extreme picture - but can't an intelligent man, upon reading this, come to the conclusion that measures of mitigation should be taken? Is it really so absurd to hold that position? I think reasonable men can disagree on the extent of mitigation required - but it always always seems to be such extremes with many of you.

I would love it if you are correct and that much of the state does not provide ample breeding ground for this mussel. I have implied this could end up being the case in other threads on this site. However, only time will tell. I don't intend to debate the minutia of it here. Really, I think only time will tell and I personally would error on the side of taking a conservative stance.

[MGJR]

The point is - they are not focusing on or containing the source. Rather they are using incomplete science to usher policy to basically quarantine the healthy (and trying to validate themselves). And as history serves us, this will likely result in more regulation, cost and inconvenience, while, virtually doing nothing to protect the resource. Lastly, an appeal to authority fallacy would be if I said I was right, because of my qualifications. I was accused of being a conspiracy theorist; however, I was making the point I actually have a background in the sciences, have read, and understand the underlying literature.

[Kennortonjr]

The point is - they are not focusing on or containing the source. Rather they are using incomplete science to usher policy to basically quarantine the healthy (and trying to validate themselves). And as history serves us, this will likely result in more regulation, cost and inconvenience, while, virtually doing nothing to protect the resource. Lastly, an appeal to authority fallacy would be if I said I was right, because of my qualifications. I was accused of being a conspiracy theorist; however, I was making the point I actually have a background in the sciences, have read, and understand the underlying literature.

We'll just have to see how it turns out....

Fair enough.

[jiggin4bass]

Your $80,000.00 bass boats are going to become worthless here shortly

[birdman920]

it’s the same liberal mindset that they have been using for decades! “never let a crisis go to waste “ they used it during Covid and they will use it now ! their ultimate goal is to end all internal combustion engines in California and they will use the Golden Mussel to help reach that goal!

[JVGondal]

it’s the same liberal mindset that they have been using for decades! “never let a crisis go to waste “ they used it during Covid and they will use it now ! their ultimate goal is to end all internal combustion engines in California and they will use the Golden Mussel to help reach that goal!

Yes that’s it exactly. Brainwashed people who believe controlling the masses is the only way to save the planet from doom
The do gooders. It’s for the greater good
They do so much good they are doing bad

[jiggin4bass]

I can see you guys still haven't got over it. YET

[Kennortonjr]

Looks like some of the Northern lakes are heading toward the "honor system" direction:

https://www.actionnewsnow.com/news/all- ... 0c419.html

[JVGondal]

Yes the upper north of Ca is not nearly as authoritarian commie liberal as the south

You can expect more a common sense approach retaining our recreational needs and freedoms
But you already knew that being in support of more government restrictions rules and regulations
It’s never enough for you until your area is privatized to meet your selfish needs

[Kennortonjr]

Yes the upper north of Ca is not nearly as authoritarian commie liberal as the south

You can expect more a common sense approach retaining our recreational needs and freedoms
But you already knew that being in support of more government restrictions rules and regulations
It’s never enough for you until your area is privatized to meet your selfish needs

Sounds good dude!