Who we are is who we vote for
Who we are is who we vote for
Candidate speeches that appeal to the most voters end in a win for the candidate that speaks to their concerns and their prejudices/bias. Not all are bad nor unrealistic though many are not realistic or good for the average citizen or nation at large. As I've been saying over and over:
DETAILS MATTER - ALWAYS!!!
examples:
MAGA movement: too vague and lacking details how to accomplish that acceptable to the majority. But, here are what MAGA and some supporters believe what it takes to accomplish it:
1. close to the borders to drug traffickers and illegal immigrants
Okay, great, but Trump has added some idiotic grandstand moves NOT acceptable to the majority such as bomb the **** out of boats, killing everyone on board without proof of who they are, what is on board or where their destinations are. Murder is murder for want of a justification. It seems to many justified in a kind of strike-first paranoid sort of way, international law be damned!
Granted, it stimulates the imagination of Trump supporters that believe it's a least something that's being done - unlike the pathetic Biden administration that sat on it laurels for four years.
But something is not anything unless true results justified the means - not claims of unquestionable success. Unquestionable is a Trump trademark that defies giving explanations or justifications to many of his actions. MY WAY OF THE HIGHWAY and anyone who doesn't go along, is NOT a true American - and such b.s. (Funny though, how many cheer that sentiment which brings me to the post's title:
Many MAGATs truly believe that what is necessary to MAGA is a show of presidential strength and domination over the other party - #1; and that his rhetoric, no matter how dumb, is at least something vs nothing - that something actually being nothing in the long run.
2. Immigration: the sentiment is that ALL illegals are murderers, drug trafficer and rapists - to quote the fear mongerer-in-chief. As usual, his generalizations, misinformation and lies may be what his supporters want to hear based on what they truly believed before it was even said, but as usually there's usually more to the story.
Truth: Most illegals are not those three things - not by a long shot! One size does NOT fit all! tHE Majority are simply hardworking people that want to feed their families, provide safety and and take them away for whatever they needed to escape from to accomplish that.
BUT NO, they are brown and crossed the border illegally and are therefore murderers, drug trafficer and rapists as well as those getting illegal benfits, not paying taxes and other vague accusations. Again, MAGATs believed that before T took office and cheer when they are carted away in chains and deported to who knows where or doing who knows what once they get there. (For all we know, human/child trafficking may be a part of those deportations. We'll never know.)
Prejudice is nice IF it doesn't hit home. My grandparents were immigrants and treated like scum along with other immigrants from other countries. There were neighborhoods that many were forced to live in apart from the established usually white anglo majority. But even after they became good Americans, did they partake in prejudice or hate for others based on misplaced beliefs and paranoia. Trump is a master at championing hate and paranoia - big reasons his base supports him and his like- without question. It's what they've always believed simple as that.
So, if you can't change some of the people some of the time, you can only hope that most of the people have either learned from their mistakes or found confirmation that their predictions and suspicions were found to be true based on the truth.
DETAILS MATTER - ALWAYS!!!
examples:
MAGA movement: too vague and lacking details how to accomplish that acceptable to the majority. But, here are what MAGA and some supporters believe what it takes to accomplish it:
1. close to the borders to drug traffickers and illegal immigrants
Okay, great, but Trump has added some idiotic grandstand moves NOT acceptable to the majority such as bomb the **** out of boats, killing everyone on board without proof of who they are, what is on board or where their destinations are. Murder is murder for want of a justification. It seems to many justified in a kind of strike-first paranoid sort of way, international law be damned!
Granted, it stimulates the imagination of Trump supporters that believe it's a least something that's being done - unlike the pathetic Biden administration that sat on it laurels for four years.
But something is not anything unless true results justified the means - not claims of unquestionable success. Unquestionable is a Trump trademark that defies giving explanations or justifications to many of his actions. MY WAY OF THE HIGHWAY and anyone who doesn't go along, is NOT a true American - and such b.s. (Funny though, how many cheer that sentiment which brings me to the post's title:
Many MAGATs truly believe that what is necessary to MAGA is a show of presidential strength and domination over the other party - #1; and that his rhetoric, no matter how dumb, is at least something vs nothing - that something actually being nothing in the long run.
2. Immigration: the sentiment is that ALL illegals are murderers, drug trafficer and rapists - to quote the fear mongerer-in-chief. As usual, his generalizations, misinformation and lies may be what his supporters want to hear based on what they truly believed before it was even said, but as usually there's usually more to the story.
Truth: Most illegals are not those three things - not by a long shot! One size does NOT fit all! tHE Majority are simply hardworking people that want to feed their families, provide safety and and take them away for whatever they needed to escape from to accomplish that.
BUT NO, they are brown and crossed the border illegally and are therefore murderers, drug trafficer and rapists as well as those getting illegal benfits, not paying taxes and other vague accusations. Again, MAGATs believed that before T took office and cheer when they are carted away in chains and deported to who knows where or doing who knows what once they get there. (For all we know, human/child trafficking may be a part of those deportations. We'll never know.)
Prejudice is nice IF it doesn't hit home. My grandparents were immigrants and treated like scum along with other immigrants from other countries. There were neighborhoods that many were forced to live in apart from the established usually white anglo majority. But even after they became good Americans, did they partake in prejudice or hate for others based on misplaced beliefs and paranoia. Trump is a master at championing hate and paranoia - big reasons his base supports him and his like- without question. It's what they've always believed simple as that.
So, if you can't change some of the people some of the time, you can only hope that most of the people have either learned from their mistakes or found confirmation that their predictions and suspicions were found to be true based on the truth.
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I like the idea of Trump bombing boats anytime you see high horsepower boats there not just going fishing. Trump is not going to put up with country's bring drugs into are country. You want to try your hand at running your boat across the ocean full of drugs be my guess it's going to end bad
Don't look like grandstanding to me look like he means business.
Don't look like grandstanding to me look like he means business.
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Bombing a boat when you’re not 100% sure drugs are on board is murder. Why not shoot the engine out and board the vessel?
Ever since the emails broke a couple days ago there’s nothing but crickets coming from the White House. It’s nice not hearing his punk A$$ for a change!
Ever since the emails broke a couple days ago there’s nothing but crickets coming from the White House. It’s nice not hearing his punk A$$ for a change!
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When you don't here from him that when these country's that are bring drugs in should worry.
Biden jr Hey Dad Trump blowing up my boats.
Have you noticed no drug boats trying to cross the ocean lately.

Biden jr Hey Dad Trump blowing up my boats.
Have you noticed no drug boats trying to cross the ocean lately.
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When we don’t hear from him is when he’s licking his wounds
the beauty of this is ANY congressman that votes to suppress the Epstein files will be committing political suicide
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I told you that DOJ and bondi are going to take care of the Democrats a judge as already orderd the justice deptse to go after clinton and his crones for partying on Epstine island and at his mansion in New York there all toast if that judge already step in
He want the files on the Democrats there going to start commiting suicide over this one

He want the files on the Democrats there going to start commiting suicide over this one
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Obviously you don’t believe in separation of power. rump has scam bondage(DOJ), Congress, and scotus in his back pocket
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Biden and his DOJ & FBI had the complete set of files they could have released them all. They had them for over 2year before the election. Reason they didn't Democrats Reid huffman, bill Clinton,Summers JPMorgan and Co. Officials. And other Democrat senators and congressmen were mixed up with Epstine.
Like I said this is not going to end well for the Democrats.
They don't even have the 218 vote now to release the files
After president Trump ordered pam bondi an the DOJ and FBI to investigate the Democrats.
The Dem went running

Like I said this is not going to end well for the Democrats.
They don't even have the 218 vote now to release the files
After president Trump ordered pam bondi an the DOJ and FBI to investigate the Democrats.
The Dem went running
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First off - no proof has been forthcoming that any speed boat is transporting drugs. For that matter, the military should blast any boat going over a certain speed! Grandstanding Trump has convinced his followers that any assertion he makes must be true regardless of the absence of facts.
The sad fact is that the FBI has taken this long to release Epstein files that would show many important figures involved with child prostitution - Trump a key suspect. Trump needs to protect his rich supporter pervs or go down with them. The GOP is gradually loosening his grip on them and step by step is allowing the opening of more documents, all for re-election purposes, not what's right.
Now TACO-IN-CHIEF is reversing tariffs on coffee, bananas tomatoes and beef (from Argentina especially) to name a few food items. Guess food inflation is something he's being blamed for and is biting him and fellow Repubs in the ***. Eggs and dairy product prices are still high locally but most likely out of T's control; same for gas and heating oil that has gone up big time.
Oh, right - Ya gotta blame Biden for all of that. Affordability is not a word in the rich's dictionary.
MAGAT's are blind followers that will defend anything he does even if he's impeached based on new evidence of crimes committed - perv-ation. Their chant:
Fool me once/ Fool me Again/ I will follow you anywhere
The sad fact is that the FBI has taken this long to release Epstein files that would show many important figures involved with child prostitution - Trump a key suspect. Trump needs to protect his rich supporter pervs or go down with them. The GOP is gradually loosening his grip on them and step by step is allowing the opening of more documents, all for re-election purposes, not what's right.
Now TACO-IN-CHIEF is reversing tariffs on coffee, bananas tomatoes and beef (from Argentina especially) to name a few food items. Guess food inflation is something he's being blamed for and is biting him and fellow Repubs in the ***. Eggs and dairy product prices are still high locally but most likely out of T's control; same for gas and heating oil that has gone up big time.
Oh, right - Ya gotta blame Biden for all of that. Affordability is not a word in the rich's dictionary.
MAGAT's are blind followers that will defend anything he does even if he's impeached based on new evidence of crimes committed - perv-ation. Their chant:
Fool me once/ Fool me Again/ I will follow you anywhere
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Jiggin they have the 218 the house is voting next week. rump is grasping at air begging two or three of the republicans that signed. A president with integrity would investigate everyone not just the one’s he dislikes but if anything he consistent…..consistently a douche bag! 
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You jerks rather have dope dealers smuggle it in
You 2 need to get the hell out of America
You 2 need to get the hell out of America
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Plenty of distractions going on with tariffs and DOJ investigating trumps rivals 
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The question is who or what distracted your brain
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rump continues to refuse to rule out a pardon for Epsteins co conspirator Maxwell 
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No way in H***! / political suicide!
(Strange, though, he hasn't gone Around The World in 80 Days recently to avoid his exec. responsibilities. Must be getting nervous what the outcome will be when the votes overturn his perv coverup.
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Trump going to win again
Democrat are in the toilet for scam there trying to push.
Democrat senators and Congressmen are telling there wivies we are on the the plane but we didn't go to the island.
The Dems are running from the vote that's about to come
Prision official are get fired from the prision where maxwell being held for leaking emails to senator Reskin dump between her and her lawyer big mistake. She going to get pardon for sure now.
And the Dems will lose again.
The Dems are to stupid to know they got caught in another trap.
Democrat are in the toilet for scam there trying to push.
Democrat senators and Congressmen are telling there wivies we are on the the plane but we didn't go to the island.
The Dems are running from the vote that's about to come
Prision official are get fired from the prision where maxwell being held for leaking emails to senator Reskin dump between her and her lawyer big mistake. She going to get pardon for sure now.
And the Dems will lose again.
The Dems are to stupid to know they got caught in another trap.
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Something just occurred to me: MAGAT's want an elite aristocracy - a new nobility, so-to- speak, to RULE the nation - not govern it! Who better than Chump-on-a-Log?
He speaks to their prejudices and anxieties and has convinced them that he speaks FOR THEM, even when there is NO proof after 3/4 of a year. Promises-not-kept or all the other feces he's shoved down the nation's throat, are all part of his genius strategy.
According to MAGA, he must F all individuals and countries that stand in his way!!! Nothing said against the king is ever true, even if proof is irrefutable. Besides, kings can't be held accountable for crimes committed - even if perv-versity is discovered.
Misuse of presidential power = strength and integrity/ cooperation, open-mindedness, and compromise show weakness according to MAGATs. Retribution against all opponents - past, present and future - is welcomed. They* need to know who's in charge of their nation!
*All scumbag immigrants, regardless of legality, should be deported along with libs, gays, trans, minorities and any person not a white Proud Boy/Kirk-patriot. Social purification is necessary to scrape the slime off the American flag and MAGA!!! Sh** stain Lumpty Dumb-ty is just the he-man to do it!
HIP HIP HOORAY FOR THE KING!!! May he rule until he dies!!!
He speaks to their prejudices and anxieties and has convinced them that he speaks FOR THEM, even when there is NO proof after 3/4 of a year. Promises-not-kept or all the other feces he's shoved down the nation's throat, are all part of his genius strategy.
According to MAGA, he must F all individuals and countries that stand in his way!!! Nothing said against the king is ever true, even if proof is irrefutable. Besides, kings can't be held accountable for crimes committed - even if perv-versity is discovered.
Misuse of presidential power = strength and integrity/ cooperation, open-mindedness, and compromise show weakness according to MAGATs. Retribution against all opponents - past, present and future - is welcomed. They* need to know who's in charge of their nation!
*All scumbag immigrants, regardless of legality, should be deported along with libs, gays, trans, minorities and any person not a white Proud Boy/Kirk-patriot. Social purification is necessary to scrape the slime off the American flag and MAGA!!! Sh** stain Lumpty Dumb-ty is just the he-man to do it!
HIP HIP HOORAY FOR THE KING!!! May he rule until he dies!!!
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When it comes to blowing boats out of the water, what happened to innocent until proven guilty? It's more like, guilty and that's it! In every state and municipality, there are statutes that try to convince an armed suspect of holding a weapon to surrender. Even enemy soldiers are given the choice to surrender. Police are not instructed to shoot first and hide the body later as in the case of suspects suspected of transporting drugs. Murder - plain and simple!
Along with the use of improper force, MAGAs welcome armed soldiers in blue states and cities to show who is in charge and send the message: protest at your own risk! Your right to protest ended when Grumpy took charge. Remember, he has a plan and you aren't part of it.
Along with the use of improper force, MAGAs welcome armed soldiers in blue states and cities to show who is in charge and send the message: protest at your own risk! Your right to protest ended when Grumpy took charge. Remember, he has a plan and you aren't part of it.
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Something accrued to me long time ago
You are some really useful idiots.
You
You are some really useful idiots.
You
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It took many hours to think that up? 
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And... how did the DoD know that the boats had drugs on them? The was NO intelligence or transparency provided to the intel committee. And nows the US is just blowing up boats ? Those boats were thousands of miles from US waters and could have be traveling to another country. Doubtful those boats would have made it to the US waters with limited fuel on board. Even with extra tanks... they might have a range of 500 km.
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It’s called intelligenceBrian D. wrote: ↑Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:19 pm And... how did the DoD know that the boats had drugs on them? The was NO intelligence or transparency provided to the intel committee. And nows the US is just blowing up boats ? Those boats were thousands of miles from US waters and could have be traveling to another country. Doubtful those boats would have made it to the US waters with limited fuel on board. Even with extra tanks... they might have a range of 500 km.
Another one?
All the false accusations you make then you ask a question this stupid ?!
Quit thinking and turn Howard back on. You should t be allowed to vote. Got get your dope south of the border
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Looney tunes on Saturday mornings
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It’s a clown show!
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In order to have intelligence you have to have a brain to have it - something you sorely lack. Questions asked should prompt intelligent answers given, not some grandstanding b.s. that only idiots accept as truth. Brian's question is logic-based - not an accusation or insult - something you and Lump have in common coming up with 99% of the time.It’s called intelligence
Another one?
All the false accusations you make then you ask a question this stupid ?!
Voters are getting sick and tired of his obfuscation (I know, it's a big word, look it up) that lack logic and facts which = the truth.. Lump doesn't fill in the blanks, he creates them by the hour leaving everyone scratching their heads: what the F did he just say?!! Are things now better than before he took office? Has he become more erratic and foolish? Are even MAGATs beginning to wonder who they supported that has abandoned the platform he ran on?
Only a moron would stay on a sinking ship while watching the captain motors away in the only lifeboat yelling,
don't worry help is on the way - deal with it!!!
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