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As promised. Bit of a concept to grasp at first but its been researched for the past 75 years. To date, I haven't seen anything to put the results so far in understandable language. Took me quite a while to grasp the concept involved. That fish (and other animals including humans) have two layers of...

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Thank you Dave. 6 - 7 " eh? Your experience sounds encouraging. As I said they aren't called large-mouth bass for nothing. I'll have to look up what "wacky rigged" means. Anyway, the purpose of the original post was just to show the principle of how they worked. If fishermen like you ...

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Pages 4,5 and 6

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Here we go. Part 3. Tom (WRB), have a look at the references to Biological Clocks and Circadian Rhythms towards the last bit of this part and spread throughout the internet. This is the scientific stuff that Knight needed to have concentrated on in 1936 only it wasn't around then. Anyway, he thought...

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pages 4,5,6.

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Part 2 Nearly there, Tom. Pages 2 and 3 show where Knight's solunar theory went "off the rails". He made the fatal but simplistic error in assuming that clams were so far down the evolution scale that they couldn't possibly have the internal ability to respond to changes, so the real trig...

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Thanks Kelly There was quite a bit of research going on with fish behaviour (not just bass) just as Knight was turning away towards other interests. Before getting up a head of steam about Cosmic Clocks etc, can I suggest that we wait for part 3 of what I found? I think that Tom might find it intere...

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Tom

Are you the Tom part of Tom Young?

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Last 3 making up Part 1

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Sorry WRB. Never heard of the Cosmic Clock OR the Bass Calendar. Have heard about Rhythms though but I don't think they're the ones you are talking about.

I'd better put up Part 1 of what I found.

It looks like I can only put up 3 pages per post so it'll have to be spread over 3 separate posts.

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These predicted bite times are fairly popular over here. Seeing that the Moon-Up / Moon Down theory originator (Bob Wall) was from US, I guess they'd be pretty popular over there too. I tried a little book called Anglers' Almanac in 2002-2004 to test its accuracy. Didn't work out after 3 years, so d...

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Thanks Mark I know that they are bite "inhalers". More commonly known as "suction feeders". Is there an increase in misses with long Senko style worms though? Like our famous barramundi, they have evolved with no teeth for gripping/holding. Expend less energy that way. Can't bite...

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Thank you, Whoopbass. I can't get Senkos in Aus. That's why I asked for help. Take weeks to get them here from US. Eventually found some in China which are already on their way. Have thought of a use for Senkos with catching a fish called a Polydactylus Macrochir ( king threadfin). Grows up to 1.7m ...

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Tank you lugnut.

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Hello all. After some assistance. Can anybody who has Senho soft stick baits do something for me please? Measure accurately (either mm or parts of an inch - but accurately) the diam of a couple of the lengths that you have and use. Was asked a question about why and how Senko "rubbers" wor...

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By Senko baits do you mean the soft plastic stickbaits rigged like a kids see-saw pivoting around the hook in the middle? They "quiver" if moved. That what you are talking about? Can you do something for me, please? I don't have access to soft baits like that. No doubt they come in differe...

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Seems like I can only attach 3 files at a time.

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If anybody wants a copy of Strouhal's formula (an interactice one that they can use) just yell out. If I can put it up on here I will (so everybody can have it to use). I'll put up another post showing how soft plastics work and the benefit of a change from hardbodied lures to paddle-tail soft plast...

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Here's why we don't have to take a calculator with us when we go fishing or buying lures. We know that the fish lateral line has evolved over thousands/hundreds of thousands a year to have best response @ 10 hz. Technical/scientific stuff again. That translates to 600 beats/revs per minute. So we gi...

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How do these 6 pages translate into something useful for any lure fisherman? Well, we know that a fish's lateral line has evolved over many thousands of years to detect low frequency vibrations. eg 10 hz. What does 10 hz mean? It means 10 cycles/beats per second. Still doesn't mean much? It translat...

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Here are other 3 pages (making 6)

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Thanks for info. Converted the PDF to 6 .png files. Still couldn't load so took screenshots. That partially worked. Won't allow more than 2 files at at time (each is about 250k in size). Will experiment a bit more so as not to inconvenience you guys. Got 3 done. regards ronje Screenshot (2517).png S...

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Hello all. Back again. The "fathers of lure vibration" had this subject all sorted out in the late 1800s/early 1900s. Vincence Strouhal and Theodore Von Karman. Von Karman went on to work for NASA. They knew nothing about fishing but their work on hydro-and- aero/dynamic vibrations was pre...

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I believe that its A.

I also believe that whoever practices "contrast fishing" in the Twilight Zone is kidding themselves.

They're actually lateral line fishing.

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Now that we know all about zones, go-to shades-of-gray fading for different colors and contrast fishing: Here 'tis. A conundrum. Screenshot (586).png How will the color violet appear to a bass in the Twilight zone? A or B Remember that A is the fade-to-gray color for violet and B is the fade-to-gray...

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No offense taken. as someone fresh out of college Whoopbass, u're a silver-tongued devil. I wish. I don't need any money especially from fellow fishermen who would be the market base. I enjoy fishing and I'd Iike to see other members of the fishing family enjoy it as much. I "signed on" to...

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A P.S. I see another mention of Loren Hill's patented invention. He had more patents than that for the automatic lure color selector ( three or four, I think). Nor was he the only one. Nor was he the first. Names like Scheer, McLaughlin, Harrow, Greiner, Wilbourne and Glick date back to 1950. These ...

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Good to see discussion. I don't believe that vision is the prime sensory tool that bass use to obtain food. To me that job resides with the lateral line. It works no matter what the conditions. In addition, a fish doesn't simply rely on one sensory organ alone to find food. Food for survival is too ...

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Perhaps its time for a reminder that none of us should take the fishing scene, ourselves and others as seriously as we sometimes seem to. LMB fishing isn't on the same priority level as financial, personal relationships, health, happiness and social importance matters are. Hell no. Its more importan...

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Now we've added how bass see those same colors as a color contrast. Screenshot (583).png We're still in the Sunlight zone here so there's a color contrast with the water color backdrop and (in the case of a multi-colored lure) there's a color contrast between colors on the lure itself . Bass can see...

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Micropterus This may come as a surprise to you but I don't care what you do. If you don't agree with anything, don't read it. If you had a good look at what I've put up here, you'll see that I expected establishment pushback and I also expected a "shoot the messenger" response at times. Yo...

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I've heard of the name Loren Hill. A fisherman/scientist who passed away early in life. Here's a link to an invention for which he applied for a patent in 1986. https://www.freepatentsonline.com/4693028.html A poster on here a while ago (Whoopbass on June21) didn't seem too impressed with the invent...

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Here's an image of how you and I would see different colored blocks contrastin g with a typical lake water backdrop (if we stuck our heads under the water). Color contrast Screenshot (582).png In this case very pale green lake water. Looks OK eh? Even violet contrasts well. Yellow, green and white n...

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Contrast One of the interesting things about watching a prizefight is how the "journeymen" go about their trade. Real professionals in not wanting to have a blow landed on them and never sticking their chin out. I find it just as fascinating reading, listening or watching similar "jo...

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I made a comment in the last post about the silver hooks vanishing under UV. Well, UV comes from the sun and we can't stop it penetrating the water. So it enhances any fluro color in the water but not probably to the same degree as a "UV" torch (more concentrated beam). A fluro color will ...

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Like humans, LMB do not have eye receptors that are sensitive to UV light. Human eye receptors only go as far as visible violet and bass eye’s don’t even go beyond green. Now that we know how to generate fluorescence via special paint pigments and ultra-violet light, lets stop and think for a minute...

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Remember that colors green to red penetrate lake water better than blue, indigo, violet. So it'd be really helpful if we could buy fluorescent colored lures between green and red. Remember also that bass eyes are specifically tuned for green and red so fluro colors of green and/or red would be a &qu...

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Fluorescence Objects (like lures) have colour paint pigments on their surface which are formulated to reflect a certain colour back to the viewer. All other colours are absorbed. So an object painted green reflects green light and absorbs everything else. An object painted red reflects red light an...

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Maybe Mother Nature didn't put blue crawfish on the earth just for bass. Maybe she didn't put black crawfish on the earth for bass either. Maybe blue crawfish and black crawfish were put on the earth for other reasons. Black/blue lure combination successful and popular for bass? If you're actually c...

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So how can we turn that state of affairs (vision fishing) around? We've covered a lot of topics individually in previous posts. turbidity, color reversal, effect of no blue receptor in bass eyes, sunlight/twilight zones, tannin etc..etc.. There is one important color subject that we haven't covered...

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So what about lure 4? Can anything see lure 4? Red failure lines everywhere. Lure 4.png Sure. Fish 4 can but that's only 'cos he's right beside it (at the downward limit of visibility..60"). If he was 6'' away he wouldn't see it either. Fish 1 has a light path length via lure 4 of 132" Fis...

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OK then what about lure 3. Its now at a depth of 45 inches. Can the fish see it? Lure 3.png More red lines. Doesn't look good. Neither fish 1 nor fish 2 can see lure 3. The other 2 fish can see it though. They can also still lure 2 and lure 1 as well. Fish 1 has to contend with a total light path of...

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