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Has anybody herd anymore about BP coming to Sacramento?
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THATS FUNNY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE SUPPOSEDLY COMING TO FRESNO LAST NIGHT. IT SEEMED TO DROP OFF THE RADAR. SOMETHING TO DO WITH HAVING TO REDO DOWNTOWN FRESNO TOWER DISTRICT I THINK. I LIVED IN SAN DIEGO WHEN THIS WAS ALL TALKED ABOUT. SO I REALLY DONT KNOW ANYTHING I GUESS IS WHAT I SHOULD HAVE PUT.
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You can find that info. on the BPS website in the news section
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Here is the BPS News Release

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Nation's Premier Outdoor Retailer Great Fit for Northern California Lifestyle
May 25, 2006

Sacramento, CA - May 25, 2006 - Executives from Thomas Enterprises, developers of The Railyards in Sacramento and Bass Pro Shops, America's premier outdoor retailer signed a letter of intent to open a Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World Superstore at The Railyards.

Bass Pro Shops unique, award-winning, mega size outdoor stores are known for combining retail with entertainment, conservation and outdoor education. Each store is uniquely designed to pick up the local flavor of the area's outdoor heritage and include fish and wildlife mounts, historical pictures, and artifacts from local hunters and fishermen. Their 33 retail stores across America attract over 78 million people annually.

"This is exactly the kind of experience we want to bring to The Railyards," said Suheil J. Totah, vice president of development for Thomas Enterprises. "Bass Pro Shops will complement the existing retail in the downtown and attract customers from across Northern California."

Bass Pro Shops offers a wide range of fishing and hunting gear and equipment for boating, hiking, backpacking, wildlife viewing, camping, outdoor cooking and more. The retailer has been named the #1 outdoor retailer in America by Sporting Goods Business Magazine.

"This location offers a unique opportunity for one of our destination retail stores, "said Bass Pro Shops President Jim Hagale. "There are very few places that offer us the kind of space we need in an area that is unique, historic and at the epicenter of one of the premier outdoor regions in the country."

Bass Pro Shops stores are much more than just a retail establishment. The sights and sounds of the outdoors are brought to life indoors through museum-quality wildlife dioramas, huge murals and chandeliers depicting outdoor scenes, massive log and rock work, waterfalls and aquariums stocked with native fish species. The attention to the finest detail from wildlife tracks in the concrete to wildlife carvings on logs and rafters helps add to the uniqueness of Bass Pro Shops stores. The outside landscaping is even designed to immerse visitors into the environment and compliment the rustic, crafted elegance of the stores, as well as encourage conservation and outdoor education utilization.

The result is numerous awards for the company's innovative store designs.

Outdoor education is a key component to Bass Pro Shops strong commitment to natural resources and the sportsmen and sportswomen who enjoy the outdoors. Weekly free outdoor skills workshops are offered at all stores for kids, women, novice adults and families.

Bass Pro Shops has won more awards for their conservation efforts than any other outdoor retailer in America. Their commitment to environmental stewardship is evident in every aspect of store design both inside and out. They work with both local and national conservation groups efforts to help preserve our outdoor traditions for future generations.

The letter of intent signals a starting point for the Railyards and Bass Pro Shops to being negotiating terms of a lease. Thomas filed a revised application with the City of Sacramento in March and is in the process of obtaining approvals for the development.

About Bass Pro Shops
Bass Pro Shops, also a major catalog and Internet retailer, is headquartered in Springfield, Missouri. It currently has 33 retail locations across the United States and Canada with 6 more locations scheduled to open by the end of 2006.

About The Railyards
The Railyards redevelopment will transform the 240-acre Union Pacific rail yard into a dynamic urban environment with 10,000 mixed-use high density housing units, a mass transit hub, retail, office space, hotels, riverfront access and sports and entertainment venues at the historic site of the western terminus of the Transcontinental Railroad.
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I dont know, i was told it was going over by arco arena, but maybe they changed their mind because of the new stadium (possible new stadium).
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As posted before, the BPS store proposed for the downtown Railyard development hinges on cleaning up the toxics left by Union Pacific. That's been the stumbling block for quite a few proposed developments there over the years. Here's a recent article (04AUG06) on the state of the Railyard from the Sacramento Bee:


Arena site could jump off railyard
Ownership, toxics may yet thwart downtown deal.

By Mary Lynne Vellinga and Terri Hardy -- Bee Staff Writers

Published 12:01 am PDT Friday, August 4, 2006

If plans to build a new Kings arena in the downtown railyard run into problems, city and county leaders have agreed to look elsewhere, including North Natomas.

Revitalization of the dormant railyard is one of the key selling points that proponents plan to use when asking voters to adopt a new quarter-cent sales tax to pay for the arena.

They paint a picture in which people will ride Amtrak or light-rail trains to basketball games and concerts, catching a bite to eat or a drink while they're downtown.

On Thursday, leaders of the arena effort downplayed the idea that it would go anywhere else. But they acknowledged that the railyard presents a number of potential challenges: delays in an ownership transfer from Union Pacific Railroad, toxic contamination, and lack of streets, sewers and other infrastructure.

"The railyard site is, by far, the hardest place to negotiate a deal," said Sacramento Vice Mayor Rob Fong.

The information about alternative sites is contained in a list of deal points negotiated over the past few days between representatives of Sacramento city and county and the Maloofs, owners of the Kings.

This written list was produced at the request of the Sacramento County Board of Supervisors, which delayed its Wednesday vote putting the sales-tax measure on the ballot until it saw something from the Kings in writing.

The list is nonbinding and will serve as the blueprint for a more detailed "memorandum of understanding" between the public agencies and the Maloofs that is to be finished by Oct. 6.

It contains numerous exit clauses that graphically illustrate the many ways the deal still could collapse.

One way would be if the public agencies can't reach a deal with Thomas Enterprises, the Georgia firm developing the railyard.

During the next two months, even as they negotiate with the Maloofs on the arena, city and county representatives will try to negotiate an agreement with Thomas Enterprises, which is under contract to buy the railyard from Union Pacific.

The deal will include, among other things, a price for the land, an exact location for the arena, and the amount of parking that will be made available to the Maloofs. If that deal doesn't come together by early October, the whole arena proposal could fizzle.

Numerous sticking points could arise, including the exact location of the arena. Thomas Enterprises has placed the arena in the back of the railyard, anchoring a planned sports and entertainment district, but Fong said he and other city negotiators would like to see it closer to the Amtrak and Regional Transit light-rail station at Fifth and I streets.

"We want it within easy walking distance," Fong said.

Mayor Heather Fargo agreed. "My preference has always been to get it as close to our intermodal (train station) as possible," she said.

If an agreement with Thomas Enterprises is reached by early October, and if voters approve the sales-tax increase, the parties could still decide to look for alternative sites if the railyard land isn't under the control of the new, public joint powers authority building the arena by July 2007.

One of these alternatives could be on land around Arco Arena that is owned by the city and the Maloofs. Another could be at Cal Expo.

"It is our hope and expectation we won't have to use those alternatives, but we need to have them," said Paul Hahn, the county's director of economic development.

Everyone involved in the deal acknowledges that the railyard's recent history doesn't suggest that development can get done in a hurry.

One potential obstacle is that Thomas Enterprises doesn't even own the site yet. The firm announced two years ago that it had entered escrow with Union Pacific. But still, the deal has not closed.

"It's been Department of Defense-esque," said Fargo aide Chuck Dalldorf. "I've never celebrated anniversaries of escrow before."

So many deadlines have come and gone that Suheil Totah, the project manager for Thomas Enterprises, refuses to make any more predictions for when the sale will close. Union Pacific officials declined to comment this week.

But Totah said the sale will be finalized in time for the arena to to be built.

"It's not going to be an issue as far as the arena goes," Totah said. "We have control of the property and we will be closing on it."

Contamination by toxic metals and fluids dumped on the ground during the railyard's industrial heyday could also be a problem.

Between 2000 and 2002, excavators for Union Pacific dug up and hauled away about 500,000 tons of contaminated dirt. But another 200,000 to 300,000 tons remain, according to the state Department of Toxic Substances Control, which is overseeing the cleanup.

The general area Thomas Enterprises has designated for an arena contains piles of soil peppered with shreds of old insulation containing toxic asbestos.

Carol Singleton, spokeswoman for the toxics control department, said the piles would have to be removed before the arena could be built. Her department hasn't decided what should be done with them yet. They could potentially be hauled away, or buried onsite and capped.

Both Totah and state toxics officials expressed confidence that the cleanup could be finished in time for construction of the arena to begin. An arena would require a lower level of cleanup than other land uses, such as parks or single family homes.

"The goal of Union Pacific and the DTSC is to have the portion where the arena would go and quite a few of the other portions of the soil clean by 2007," said Paul Carpenter, a project manager for DTSC overseeing the railyard cleanup.

Totah said the cleaning of the yard has been a "slow" process under Union Pacific.

"The cleanup could have been done years ago, but it's been undergoing remediation on a slower schedule," Totah said.

Once a hub of heavy industry, the railyard lacks streets, parking garages, sewers, a modern electric system and other necessities for accommodating a major development such as an arena. Thomas Enterprises and the city of Sacramento estimate it will cost between $400 million and $500 million to install the needed infrastructure.

Specific funding sources have yet to be identified. The city has said it will contribute the money from selling 100 acres of land it owns next to Arco Arena. That money is being included in the estimated price tag of $470 million to $542 million for an arena.

Arena proponents acknowledge that the railyard presents a daunting set of obstacles. But they say it also offers far more potential to revitalize the city than a more suburban facility such as Arco.

"The railyards development is really the prize here," said John Dangberg, assistant Sacramento city manager for economic development. "It's a five and a half billion-dollar project we're trying to get off the ground. The arena really does act as a driver to move it along."

BREAKING DOWN THE ARENA DEAL
Arena negotiators in July released deal points of the funding plan. This week, negotiators in a marathon session fleshed out that initial agreement. Here are some of the new provisions:

• Arena: A 17,000- to 18,000-seat state-of-the-art facility comparable in quality to arenas in Memphis, Charlotte, Indianapolis and Houston. Square footage would be about the same as the Memphis FedEx arena, but with administrative offices inside, not in a free-standing building. Other amenities: 50-60 luxury suites; 3,000 to 5,000 club seats; appropriate training facilities and two practice courts.

• Joint powers authority: Other incorporated cities in the county might join Sacramento and the county in ownership of the arena.

• Parking: A parking structure with enclosed walkways or bridges connecting to the arena. The number of spaces has yet to be determined.

• Location: Downtown's Union Pacific railyard. If that plan falls through, the parties would look at alternative sites including North Natomas.

• Design: The city and county will give the Kings a list of three nationally recognized architects with experience in building arenas; Kings will make the final choice.

• Kings contribution: Kings will pay $20 million when construction begins. That money could be used for capital repairs or any other purpose.

• Possessory interest tax: In lieu of property taxes, the JPA will pay a tax based on the lease value. The yearly amount has not yet been determined.

• Natomas land: Kings own 85 acres in North Natomas on the site of Arco Arena and the city owns 100 adjacent acres. Parking for the arena is on the border, with some land owned by the city and some land owned by Maloof Sports and Entertainment. An agreement allowing the city and the Maloofs to each use that common area would be nullified, allowing the areas to be sold or developed by each side, unencumbered by the agreement.

• Exit clauses: There are a host of provisions or deadlines that must be met, or the arena deal will fall apart. They include: The city and county conclude the arena's projected costs are too great; North Natomas land restrictions are not erased; the proposed arena site is not acceptable or is not under control of the city, county or JPA by July 1, 2007.
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Last I'd heard (before I moved away) Manteca was getting one. Is this still the case? I'd heard it was to open in 2007. Oh well, my dad was impressed with the one we have here in Las Vegas. Last year I got to see the one in Oklahoma City. It's in their re-vitalized downtown area. Would be a + for Sac's downtown. That is, along with a new arena for the kings. Maybe they'll become the Las Vegas Kings before we know it!!!! :lol: :lol:
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CORAL 96 wrote:Last I'd heard (before I moved away) Manteca was getting one. Is this still the case? I'd heard it was to open in 2007.
I saw the job openings for the Manteca store posted at monster.com so that's an affirmative to your question...
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More Railyard news from today's Sacramento Bee:


Maloofs quit arena talks
Disagreement surfaces over parking, project's size and amenities.

By Mary Lynne Vellinga, Terri Hardy and Jon Ortiz - Bee Staff Writers

Published 12:00 am PDT Thursday, September 14, 2006


The Maloof family has walked away from talks with the city and county of Sacramento over the terms of locating a new arena in the downtown railyard -- a heavy blow to community leaders trying to sell the arena proposal to the public.

"There are no more negotiations; we've already discussed all the issues," Joe Maloof said in a phone interview Wednesday. "They know what we need. We've told them."

The disagreement centers on parking, the size of the arena site, and on what, if any, kinds of retail or housing also would go into the sports and entertainment zone.

The pro-arena forces were left Wednesday with the very real possibility that they may be campaigning for a new sales tax on the Nov. 7 ballot to build an arena in the railyard without the owners of the NBA franchise on board -- and without their money to help pay for the campaign.

"We still consider them part of our team, but it is our arena, and we will decide where it goes, and the public has said loud and clear that the best place for the arena is in the railyard," said Assistant City Manager John Dangberg, who has represented the city in talks with the team.

Doug Elmets, spokesman for the Yes on Q & R campaign, said the campaign will move forward despite the negotiation problems and Joe Maloof's statements. He said the Maloofs haven't given any money to the campaign.

"We're focused on the railyards -- with or without the Maloofs' support," he said.

Sacramento Mayor Heather Fargo and Vice Mayor Rob Fong this week contacted a top NBA official to apprise him of the situation. Earlier this year, Fong persuaded the NBA to bring the Maloofs back to the bargaining table after another breakoff in talks.

County and city staff members had committed to producing a memorandum of understanding with detailed terms of the deal by Oct. 6. But even if that document never materializes, the ballot measure to raise the sales tax by a quarter-cent remains on the November ballot, Dangberg said.

So does a companion advisory measure asking voters if they want to spend about half the $1.2 billion in new taxes on an arena and the rest on community projects.

Elected officials who had been involved in the negotiations for months said it wasn't uncommon for the Maloofs to walk away from the table on more than one occasion. That gives them hope that they will be back.

Joe Maloof accused the city and county of backing away from terms previously agreed to, something officials vehemently deny. He said his family won't give money to the campaign until its needs for a downtown site are met.

"If they want an arena downtown, they'll stick by the agreement we have," he said.

One source familiar with the campaign said the Maloofs had pledged to donate $1.5 million to the effort.

Parking and what will surround the proposed arena are in dispute.

The Maloofs now control about 11,000 parking spaces around Arco Arena, and they want at least 8,000 -- the amount that fills up for Kings games -- at the new site, Dangberg said. They also don't want competition from other retail and restaurant businesses in the sports and entertainment zone.

The city, meanwhile, had committed to providing the team with a parking garage that could have as many as 3,000 spaces. Money from that garage would go to the team. Patrons also could park elsewhere in the railyard or downtown, or could arrive by light rail. In those cases, the team would not receive the money.

Dangberg said the Maloofs wanted to eliminate the housing, hotels and retail planned for the railyard's 20-acre sports and entertainment district and fill it with "an arena and parking garages and nothing else."

But the city is seeking to create a walkable entertainment district where people arrive by means other than cars. "We don't want to take Arco Arena and replicate it downtown," Dangberg said.

Maloof said his family supports putting an arena in the railyard, but won't locate in a place that "puts the franchise in jeopardy."

"Why would we move to a different area if it hurts our revenue," Maloof said.

"There's tremendous risk in running a sports franchise. It's not a normal business," Maloof added. "People are sweeping that under the rug."

Maloof said the city is trying to renege on a previously negotiated agreement on how much land the arena would occupy. Those involved in the negotiations said the Maloofs are seeking 8.5 acres.

"They know the size of area we need for an arena," Maloof said. "They wanted to cut it in half. If they want an arena downtown, they've got to stick with the agreement we have."

Dangberg said city negotiators don't have a set amount of land in mind, but want to first agree on what an arena would contain and then figure out how much land it would require.

"We're OK with 8.5 acres if that's what it is," he said.

The preliminary term sheet signed by both sides in August specifies neither the size of the arena site nor the number of parking spaces.

Maloof threw leaders of the campaign for measures Q and R into a tizzy last week at a pro-arena news conference when he said the arena might go someplace other than the railyard.

"We wholeheartedly support the idea of putting it downtown, but don't have a deal worked out yet," he said Wednesday. "When the voter goes into the booth, he's got to know where it's going to be."

Maloof noted other difficulties with developing the railyard. For example, he noted, developer Stan Thomas hasn't even finalized his purchase of the 240- acre yard from Union Pacific. "It's a very difficult spot to develop," he said.

But some city and county leaders leading the campaign for the arena said the downtown railyard location is something they refuse to compromise in order to get a new arena.

The term sheet with the Maloofs clearly states the arena could go elsewhere if the railyard site doesn't work out. But Sacramento's political will has coalesced around the idea of using the arena to help spur redevelopment of the long-dormant railyard.

"That's where we all want it," Fargo said Wednesday.

Sacramento County Supervisor Roger Dickinson said the railyard site is "the basis on which I've supported this effort."

Opponents of the arena Wednesday seized on the rift between the Maloofs and the ballot campaign -- saying that Joe Maloof was at least being honest with voters.

State Assemblyman Dave Jones and other opponents staged a news conference at the south gate to Arco Arena. They spun a makeshift roulette wheel in which the arrow stopped at different cities around the region.

"They mention the downtown about 30 times in their (campaign) materials, but there's nothing in either of the two measures that says anything about downtown or the railyard," Jones said.

Ron Dwyer-Voss, a member of the Natomas Unified School District Board, said it's no surprise the proponents of the new arena are arguing with the Maloofs.

"It's a bad deal, and when you have a bad deal, and you're trying to sell the product, the salesmen are going to fight."
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Man, they might become Las Vegas KINGS before I know it!! :o I'd heard the voter's in Saccramento wern't too sure as to whether or not they wanted the new arena. Oh well, if they did move down here, we'd welcome them with open arms. Vegas has been pushing real hard to get a pro team, and we've got the people to support one!!! 8) 8)
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No new arena= No Bass Pro Shops*NM*

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*NM*
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Just received their latest catalog, which is a 'gifts and more' catalog, and it shows on page 60, a map with Sac, Manteca, and Rancho Cucamonga for Calif as new sites.

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The last time I was across 120 (labor day weekend) I didnt even see a sign up let alone any construction on the Manteca store-maybe I just THOUGHT I knew where it was going up? If they have jobs on Monster then you'd think that construction was well underway....have they started it yet????
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basstamer wrote:If they have jobs on Monster then you'd think that construction was well underway....have they started it yet????
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The listings were for managerial positions and I don't see them anymore. I saw a couple managerial openings listed for their Rancho Cucamonga location a few minutes ago...
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info and links to the project web sites.

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The Manteca Bass Pro shops is opening fall 2007 and is already being built.

The Sacramento Bass Pro is not definite yet, There are still a few things that need to happen for that to be definite. If it all happens in favor of Bass Pro, it could be open in 2008 but that would be an extremely rushed timeline. If it happens at all, it would most likely open in 2009 at the earliest. In a nutshell, we can all go shop the Manteca Bass Pro in 1 year, but it will be 3 to 5 more years before we have a Bass Pro in Sac, if we ever get one at all.

Bass Pro has a little star on Sacramento for their locations...
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.CFPage?appID=94

But that Star is not definite. Here is the cliff notes version of what will need to happen.


Thomas Enterprises (the land developer) will need to finish negotiations with the city of Sacramento. (The Maloofs abortion is a set back to these negotiations as the project constructions plans cannot be approved until they know if there will be a new arena in the rail yard.)

Once approved, then the City of Sacramento and Thomas Enterprises will make arrangements to purchase the 240-acre site.

Once purchased, the city and Thomas Enterprises will start a clean up project to clean up toxins in order to get the site approved to begin development. (this will be a huge project as the rail yard is currently rated as a toxic waste land).

Once clean up is complete, then they can start preparing the site. This is expected to cost about $300 million. Another $45 million will be needed to move the railroad tracks to the north, something that needs to be finished before Fifth Street can be extended into the site.

Then construction begins on the entire site. This will take longer than a normal site because they will have to install electrical, water, sewer, gas. build canals, build a marina, etc.

You can find out more about the project as well as look at site plans, conceptual drawings, satellite photos, etc. at the following web sites.

http://www.cityofsacramento.org/dsd/pla ... railyards/

http://www.cityofsacramento.org/dsd/pla ... agrams.htm

http://www.sacramentorailyards.com/home/home.asp

http://www.cityofsacramento.org/dsd/pla ... -photo.jpg

http://www.sacramentorailyards.com/asse ... -29_06.pdf
Do it like no one is watching...
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Hey nipples....

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where is it being built then?????
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BP in Sac sure would be welcome. I was just at the Cabela's store in Phoenix. Pretty amazing place. I see there is a Cabela's slated for Reno.
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How do you think it is going to affect your favorite smaller tackle stores, or are you all still going to support them like…….Troy’s Outdoor Sports, Escalon Bait & Tackle, Hook Line & Sinker, Sac Pro Tackle, even Fishermans Whse ?? Just a question ? Gotta wonder !
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Well,
I was just made an order through them last week and the lady I talked to said West Sacramento in 2007 will have a BPS. Also she did mention that Manteca would also have one next year. I think before to long we will be all walking through BPS in "awwww"
looking at all that cool stuff. I particularly can't wait to stop paying all these shipping charges when ordering from them.
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