Update on USAC Polygraph from Aug. 8

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Update on USAC Polygraph from Aug. 8

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The Tournament Director Ador Lopez has confirmed the following:

Angelo Queirolo was unwilling to be polygraphed.

Queirolo consulted a lawyer and was advised not to take the polygraph.

USAC and Lopez were notified he would not take the polygraph.

Due to the refusal, Queirolo will be banned from USAC.

At this time, USAC has not released the first place payout to Queirolo.

A review is underway to determine the process for the funds.

Will update.
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I wouldn't want to take a set to fail shady test either. What a joke. Has fishing become a haven for @#!*
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Everyone signed a release that they would take a poly when they signed up to fish the tournament
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I'd love to see why they felt they needed to in this instance....perhaps they should do it every tournament.
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I like it when a Tournament Director steps up and takes care of business and he get slammed by guys who hardly fish tournaments. These lie detectors are used for terms of employment all the time. He has had a great year and won lots of money. It would be a shame if doesn't clear his name!
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He has had a great year!
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Those are Delta Hall of Fame stats! Does anyone know of a team/individual that has won over $22, 000 in a little over a year, just fishing team tournaments? (Not including TOC winnings)
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USAC as well as most circuits have it in writing on the entry form that all participants are subject to a polygraph at tournament directors discretion so you cant argue that they are witch hunting!
Those stats are pretty amazing and would be cause for suspicion and should warrant a polygraph, anyone who refuses forfeits their rights to fish future tournaments. Ador did exactly what all circuits should be doing as most of these orgs collect a fee just for this reason!


Well done USAC!

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If I'm not mistaken most of those tournaments he cashed checks in are team tournies... It takes two to dance, wonder if partner will take lie detector or if he will be banned as well.
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I don't fish tournaments , but I have taken polygraph tests for employment and it wasn't a big deal . If this guy is innocent , he should have no problem taking the test and passing , if he has something to hide --- he won't --it's that simple.
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Anyone know why he was asked to do a polygraph?
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I remember when anyone on a roll such as this would get an "escort" during tournaments on the Delta.
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I'm curious to the why also. Would be a shame to have your name drug through the mud and get a bad rep for nothing. Guess taking the poly would answer the questions but someone had to have some reason to question his integrity. Hope theres no cheating going on I love the honest competition when get the chance to fish a tournament.
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I too have taken a polygraph. Told the truth. Everything was on the up and up. No big deal. Good job USAC. As stated earlier-We know it may be required when we sign up.
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I have fished with and against this angler. He is a new up and comer. I do believe he is catching his fish legally & truthfully. I know h and his partner have taken Poly's in the past year and passed no problem. You fellow anglers know we all can't stand a new guy coming and beating on us like he is currently doing. I honestly believe it might be his attitude that might be getting him into hot water. One thing I can say in his defense is is he is using baits I know 100% of you don't and won't throw and he fishes areas unknown to you. Heck they were unknown areas to me lol
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If has taken polygraphs in the past why wouldn't he take this one? When and where did he take the test?
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I will find out. I remember one time was when he was fishing with his cousin
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Here's what I'd do if I was this guy, take the dam test just to clear your name plain and simple. I bet the guy is a heck of a stick but the delta is loaded with them and to have a record like I seen of his, would raise question. I can't say if he did or didn't but I know if I was rippin lips like he is I'd run down and take that test just to clear my name. Put emotions aside and clear your name so you can keep fishing the tourneys. That's just my opion and it doesn't matter but I know a lot of guys I've talked to said if you ain't guilty prove it and take the test.
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What's funny is he wins by himself or with his cousin!
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He need to take the test and clear his name. Tournament fisherman spend 2-3 days to pre-fish spending hours and money to be successful.
let said you pre-fish 3 times and spend $250 on gas and found some good fish, and got 26lbs during the tournament you fished. But Someone beat you by 1 lb. Very disappointing!!! right !! what if that person cheated and won ? Why fish tournament you can't never win when their a cheater out there. The only person I know win $22,000 in team tournament is the Great Gary Dobyns !!!
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Look at it this way if a judge is found to have been paid off then all of his other verdicts correct or not come into question. It will be the same with all of his wins prior to this accusation and any tournament that he fishes. Until we find out exactly what he was accused of,which had to have been pretty big to warrant a polygraph. Most fisherman that I know
would not turn a guy in for little or minor infractions done without any malicious intent.( sh*% does happens some guys are crazy) So given USAC's position and messed up situation that was presented to them they had no choice but to ask this angler to take a polygraph and follow the rules that every angler agrees to prior to blast off.
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Wow! I've been hearing about this guy being a cheater since last year. I've never meet the man so maybe it's not for me to say anything about him but when his name constantly keeps surfacing about this very subject than now he refused to take a polygraph knowing dam well that it's been implemented in big tournaments as a way to detour anyone from Cheating and refusing to take one could only put brand you as such in the eyes of everyone in the fishing community . Wow!
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If this young man has already taken two polygraph test and passed them both; why would the TD have reason to test him again? It sounds like he has been catching his fish legally. Seems to me alot of the Delta anglers have hurt feelings this young man is taking thier money and they don't like it. Maybe he feels that he has proven his fishing skills are legit and has had enough of this witch hunt. Have any other fishermen been given polys in this circut that have consistently been winning or placing in the top three? I heard through a source that was at the tourney, that other fishermen were throwing beer bottles and other debris at his truck and boat as he left. Is the TD doing anything about this lack of sportsman ship? Hopefully this gets resolved quickly and fairly.
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It is my understanding there have been NO polys taken by him or given to him by any TD on the list of team tourneys posted here where he has won $22000 in one year on the Delta. He could be the greatest stick out there. All he has to do is take the AC poly clear his name and fish on.
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I think the best way to get this taken care of quickly and fairly is to just take the test to shut everyone up. Idk this guy but if it was me or any other angler with his record id sure take the test just to prove my innocence. Granted he may be a top stick but there's plenty of good sticks out on the delta and it's hard to believe that someone can be that consistent against those guys let alone on the delta. I'm just a average angled but if I had his record of wins and I was beign accused of cheating id run down to take the test just so I can keep on winning. Let's face it, the guy is probably a nice guy and never had issues with any other angler and maybe that's why he got away with it but now he's beign questioned and avoiding the test so that can only mean one thing, he has cheated plain and simple. I work my tail off just so I can fish tourneys and have nice equipment and to think of the times he was fishing against me little did I know I was done before the tourney ever began. So to those that stick up for him think about that, how many times did you fish against him and he came and took the $ right out your wallet and when you ask him about it he totally denies it? Just something to think about.
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So did the winners of today usac have to take a test after they won today just wondering I think if they are going to make one guy then they need to do it at all of there tournaments
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Oh my god guys let it rest. I'm 75 years old have read all this stuff last week and this week. I even posted the first time around. Been fishing the delta Probably second longest to only to Dee Thomas, most of the other guys are dead by now. Have had two really good team partners, David Holland and Todd Fedderson. Won a lot of money with both. Give the guy his money he earned it. Nobody had more weight. If he has been cheating he will eventually get caught. They always do. At my age I have become a really good and more consistent fisherman, no more 10-12 lbs. for five. I have done it by not trying to do what every one else is doing. Remember Mark Daniels the team of Rosetti and Jennings, Rosetti and Rosetti. And some of the teams from the Bancs Club. Give these guys their respect. They earned it. You get better by spending more time on the water than on this computer. God Bless you all and be safe: the idiot boaters are still out there.
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I agree that we never want to think people cheat during fishing Tournaments. Whenever there is money evolved you have to think that not everyone will fallow the rules. The rule that the director has the option to ask for a poly keeps the cheaters in check. This test isn't cheap and wouldn't be feasible to do one every tourney. When was the last time anybody was asked to do one? Obviously the fishermen enjoys competeing and seems it would be a no brainier if he is that good. As far as I'm concern I won't support any ORG who allows him to fish without the poly. What bugs me the most is how many people could have got cheated out of cash, 1st,2nd,3rd,etc.....
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I know nothing of the guy or in some cases team that is in question. While it is true, a polygraph can render a false result, from my understanding, it is rare. Having said that, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck. I fish a few tourneys at the delta every year but I have no skin in the game. However, I can tell you first hand about all the makeshift stringers and fish traps I've ran across on the river. The delta is so vast, it makes it easier for people to cheat.

If the guy(s) have a magic bait, or the magic spot, let them say so. It's not like you have to give up your secret spot or baits. It is as simple as this, take the test and clear your name or give up your fishing career because, no one is going believe from this point on.

This is speculation on my part, and I could be wrong but other than night tournaments, the delta has more cheaters and frauds than any other body of water in California. There are just to many places to hide fish. The fisherman in question is going to have a few friends come to his aid and some people involved in putting on events will down play the issue because it is bad for business. However, cheating does take place, probably more often than an honest person would think. I mean, think about the Yamamoto tourney, or the UFC, or the snag proof. Do you really think guys don't throw other lures or plastics. I don't care if they check boats or not. They don't check your pockets or the stash someone has hidden on a berm in the middle of no where. Polygraph tests or pro/ams are the only real deterrent we have and I think they should be used.

I believe that most guys are straight up but it only takes one to change the results.
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I hardly ever come on this and talk but one thing seems kind of odd to me when you are doing this good on one body of water. Why does he not fish other events where he could make way more money such as FLW, California tournament trail Pro Am, or a federation tournament. Somebody on that kind of streak would fish every tournament there was. But he only seems to fish tournaments where he is alone or with somebody he knows. Why wouldn't you fish an FLW and have a chance at 30 plus thousand dollars. It is very hard to accuse a guy of cheating when he fishes tournaments that have co-anglers and ams. I'm not saying he's a cheater and I'm not saying that he's not I'm just stating my point of view I've never met the guy or have fished against him since I don't fish team events on the Delta but the truth will come out sooner or later.
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