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Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:35 pm
by WB Staff
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Federal officials suppressed a lengthy environmental document that details how one of California’s unique salmon runs would be imperiled by Trump administration plans to deliver more water to Central Valley farms.

The July 1 assessment, obtained by The Times, outlines how proposed changes in government water operations would harm several species protected by the Endangered Species Act, including perilously low populations of winter-run salmon, as well as steelhead trout and killer whales, which feed on salmon.

But the 1,123-page document was never released.

Two days after federal scientists submitted their review, called a biological opinion, a regional fisheries official pulled the document and replaced the team that wrote it with a new group tasked with revising it...

Full article in the LA TIMES: https://www.latimes.com/environment/sto ... lmon-farms

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:20 pm
by mark poulson
This is so wrong on so many levels. When the scientists who actually know what they're talking about get replaced because they tell an inconvenient truth there is something wrong with our government.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:43 pm
by mark poulson
Doesn't anyone have anything to say about this? It's the life of the Delta that's being talked about.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:06 pm
by biteme
mark poulson wrote:Doesn't anyone have anything to say about this? It's the life of the Delta that's being talked about.
You finally got one huh! :lol:

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:25 pm
by mark poulson
biteme wrote:
mark poulson wrote:Doesn't anyone have anything to say about this? It's the life of the Delta that's being talked about.
You finally got one huh! :lol:
What is there to laugh about?

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 3:26 pm
by biteme
mark poulson wrote:
biteme wrote:
mark poulson wrote:Doesn't anyone have anything to say about this? It's the life of the Delta that's being talked about.
You finally got one huh! :lol:
What is there to laugh about?
Man that was fast, almost like you've been waiting for a reply.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:57 am
by mark poulson
biteme wrote:
mark poulson wrote:
biteme wrote: You finally got one huh! :lol:
What is there to laugh about?
Man that was fast, almost like you've been waiting for a reply.
One more time. What is there about this water policy to laugh about?

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:15 am
by not4un
mark poulson wrote:This is so wrong on so many levels. When the scientists who actually know what they're talking about get replaced because they tell an inconvenient truth there is something wrong with our government.

Don't believe scientist anymore after all the lying about global warming/climate change. Just more TDS.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 12:40 pm
by mark poulson
not4un wrote:
mark poulson wrote:This is so wrong on so many levels. When the scientists who actually know what they're talking about get replaced because they tell an inconvenient truth there is something wrong with our government.

Don't believe scientist anymore after all the lying about global warming/climate change. Just more TDS.
Really?

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:33 pm
by gold fish
Really....

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:51 am
by biteme
mark poulson wrote:
biteme wrote:
mark poulson wrote: What is there to laugh about?
Man that was fast, almost like you've been waiting for a reply.
One more time. What is there about this water policy to laugh about?
YOU!

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:19 pm
by Brian D.
SO


TIRED


OF


Winning..... :| .

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:30 pm
by biteme
Brian D. wrote:SO


TIRED


OF


Winning..... :| .
Is that why you live in CA?

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:15 pm
by Jeff C.
This should probably go to the politics page, but Trump supporters apparently don’t care that he is a racist or that he took the side of Putin over this country. Given that they continue to support him after all that, did you really think that they would change their mind based on the fact that his policies will hurt the Delta?

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 7:49 am
by Whoopbass
Jeff C go stuff a sock in it. I'm tired of people like you judging people like me with your assumptions.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:33 am
by mark poulson
This is not about us. It's about the Delta, and the water grab by the San Joaquin farmers.
If an action is wrong, it's wrong, no matter who takes it.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:07 am
by biteme
mark poulson wrote:This is not about us. It's about the Delta, and the water grab by the San Joaquin farmers.
If an action is wrong, it's wrong, no matter who takes it.
Whos the Governor of CA? Mark maybe you can write him about your concerns. This issue isnt anything new in CA. Its a fight that will go on for years. Money always wins no matter whos in power, just like a train to no where.

Im heading to the lake you guys have a good day.

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 9:42 am
by Otay Michael
Jeff C. wrote:This should probably go to the politics page, but Trump supporters apparently don’t care that he is a racist or that he took the side of Putin over this country. Given that they continue to support him after all that, did you really think that they would change their mind based on the fact that his policies will hurt the Delta?
If you repeat a lie long enough folks will start believing it.
In this case, you'll have to keep it up for awhile longer, we're not having any of it. :lol:

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2019 7:16 am
by mark poulson
Bump

Re: Did the gov hide a report that shows Trump’s water plan would hurt California salmon

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:31 am
by mark poulson
From Restore the Delta:
“The death of the twin-tunnels project hasn’t stopped Central Valley farmers’ efforts to send more water south to irrigate their fields at the expense of the health of the Sacramento-San Joaquin River Delta.

“The latest assault on the Delta, which supplies roughly one-third of the Bay Area’s water, is the Trump administration’s efforts to gut the federal Endangered Species Act. Removing protections in existence for nearly 50 years threatens not only the Delta’s wildlife but also the quality of its fresh water….

“The California Legislature can fend off the president’s move by passing Senate Bill 1. The legislation, authored by Senate President Pro Tem Toni Atkins, D-San Diego, would establish as state standards the federal environmental protections that were in existence when Trump became president on Jan. 20, 2017…”