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Everywhere I go on the delta people are filming there catches. Then post to YouTube. So the spots can be cherry picked. I don't get it?

fishing isn't the only thing.......

I dont talk about places anymore on sites. I don't mind sending a PM but I've learned over the years what happens. I also don't post any pics. Just keep them for myself. I always remind myself I fish for me and not others.

I have a little slice of "heaven"and I want to keep it that way for as long as I can.

It’s the fisherman who pack big fish around all day in their livewells for a end of day photo op ! case in point is Clear Lake ! the lake used to be famous for big fish ! used to take well over 30#s a day to win a spring tournament ! now 20#s is all it takes ! I know tournaments take a toll ! but the guides and fun fisherman on the water every day are causing much more big fish mortality !

Social Media is ruining EVERYTHING not just fishing!!!

Most lakes are no secret. Bullards Bar, Clear Lake, Delta, Berryessa. Its just like hunting, a big buck will get killed in a unit by a guy who probably put in his time and did his homework and it will get flooded for a few years until the hysteria dies down. Fishing is no different. Bullards was the big craze for awhile, and haven't heard much from there the last couple years, but the big ones are still there. It just is what it is now.

No! People are!

I would say mapping, google earth and a fishing buddy has done more to "blow up fishing spots" If you are fishing spots vs the fishes activity you're already at a loss, especially on the Delta. Anyone who has fished the Delta has seen how quickly a hot spot goes south long before GoPro and Youtube. Now are more people seeing variations in baits and approaches sure the fish will adjust and the anglers will adjust - for me the best part of the game is not to have "my spot" but to figure out the fish in that moment of that day and luckily the camera just cant capture the decisions and details that brought that fish to connect. Enjoy, take some pictures, share some videos, and don't worry your non-boater already told everyone about 'your spot'

Give it about 7 weeks and your fishing spots will be out of the water the almond growers and alfalfa growers are going to take all the water.

Well as far as the Delta goes, Sea lions and the state spaying pesticides all over the place and killing the grass are the main problems in the decline on the delta as I see it. As for people showing others there spots, on the Delta that
really doesn't matter that much because if you know the delta at all you know that time and tide will
dictate when the fish will bite, The spot is only half of the puzzle, if you don't know when to be there It's not
going to help much. And with the Internet everyone wants to be star LOL.

They're dumping water down the Tuolumne and Stanislaus right now. I doubt anyone knows why. If they can't get us on our knees with Covid they damn sure can with water.

Yeah I was looking at the lakes this morning, And they were dropping Don Pedro unbelievable!!!

Lol.... all you guys belly aching about saving the delta are complaining because they are dropping lake levels? They are dumping water due to the tree huggers mandate to push steelhead and salmon smolts out to sea. Can't have it both ways lol.

Millerton lake dumping water also and the farmers ain't gettin it.

El Jefe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:17 pm Lol.... all you guys belly aching about saving the delta are complaining because they are dropping lake levels? They are dumping water due to the tree huggers mandate to push steelhead and salmon smolts out to sea. Can't have it both ways lol.

That hasn't happened on the Tuolumne in years. So why are they doing it this year? Sure isn't some tree hugging mandate.

Democrats

No, it’s the way we do things here in America. Everything is open and free, Shoulder to shoulder, boat to boat and window to window. Completely normal..
Pack’em in nice and tight, there’s plenty of room for the entire world! It’s how America works.

Welcome to title 42 coming to a city near you

Kayak/Boats wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:40 pm No, it’s the way we do things here in America. Everything is open and free, Shoulder to shoulder, boat to boat and window to window. Completely normal..
Pack’em in nice and tight, there’s plenty of room for the entire world! It’s how America works.

Ah, the look and feel of Communist Eastern bloc architecture and structures.

Good luck!

Whoopbass wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:19 pm

El Jefe wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:17 pm Lol.... all you guys belly aching about saving the delta are complaining because they are dropping lake levels? They are dumping water due to the tree huggers mandate to push steelhead and salmon smolts out to sea. Can't have it both ways lol.

That hasn't happened on the Tuolumne in years. So why are they doing it this year? Sure isn't some tree hugging mandate.

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2022/04 ... o-sea/?amp

It happens EVERY year…. Even in a drought….more misinformation by city people.

The hell it does. I live just a couple miles from it. That river has been a swamp for years. You're the one giving out misinformation. It made news this year because this is the first year that they've dumped water for salmon.
MID is tight with their water so this surprises me. MID is only allowing 30 inches per acre of irrigation water this year. How much are you getting El Hefe? Growing nuts to send to China? Just farming away behind a mule aren't you? Poor thing.

This state is deliberately causing a water crisis.

Whoopbass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:27 am The hell it does. I live just a couple miles from it. That river has been a swamp for years. You're the one giving out misinformation. It made news this year because this is the first year that they've dumped water for salmon.
MID is tight with their water so this surprises me. MID is only allowing 30 inches per acre of irrigation water this year. How much are you getting El Hefe? Growing nuts to send to China? Just farming away behind a mule aren't you? Poor thing.

This state is deliberately causing a water crisis.

Lol.... you asked why they were turning water loose.....I said it was because of tree huggers.... you said it wasn't ? I posted an article that shows who is responsible so what are you mad about? You are mad that this is the first year or the 50th?

Anyways, the irony that brightens my day are guys who argue that the farmers steal all of the water from the delta and when they do release water into the delta then they complain about the lakes dropping? See.....funny.

Stop whining about the water your not going to get your way their going to take the water period. It's not going too keep you from fishing.

Not going to stop you from fishing!!!! Check me if I'm wrong but didn't they dump Oroville last summer to where
you couldn't launch for over three months??

El Jefe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:51 pm

Whoopbass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:27 am The hell it does. I live just a couple miles from it. That river has been a swamp for years. You're the one giving out misinformation. It made news this year because this is the first year that they've dumped water for salmon.
MID is tight with their water so this surprises me. MID is only allowing 30 inches per acre of irrigation water this year. How much are you getting El Hefe? Growing nuts to send to China? Just farming away behind a mule aren't you? Poor thing.

This state is deliberately causing a water crisis.

Lol.... you asked why they were turning water loose.....I said it was because of tree huggers.... you said it wasn't ? I posted an article that shows who is responsible so what are you mad about? You are mad that this is the first year or the 50th?

Anyways, the irony that brightens my day are guys who argue that the farmers steal all of the water from the delta and when they do release water into the delta then they complain about the lakes dropping? See.....funny.

You're link doesn't mean anything. No water was dumped the last several years in the Tuolumne so why this year? I guess the salmon only come up once every 5 years and on schedule. They're dumping water and not for environmental reasons. They might say they are and maybe they're following law now but they haven't done so in years so why now? They were dumping water out of Melones a couple months back. Do you have an answer for that?
El Jefe should be more concerned about them dumping water then us so called tree huggers.

Whoopbass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:39 pm

El Jefe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:51 pm

Whoopbass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:27 am The hell it does. I live just a couple miles from it. That river has been a swamp for years. You're the one giving out misinformation. It made news this year because this is the first year that they've dumped water for salmon.
MID is tight with their water so this surprises me. MID is only allowing 30 inches per acre of irrigation water this year. How much are you getting El Hefe? Growing nuts to send to China? Just farming away behind a mule aren't you? Poor thing.

This state is deliberately causing a water crisis.

Lol.... you asked why they were turning water loose.....I said it was because of tree huggers.... you said it wasn't ? I posted an article that shows who is responsible so what are you mad about? You are mad that this is the first year or the 50th?

Anyways, the irony that brightens my day are guys who argue that the farmers steal all of the water from the delta and when they do release water into the delta then they complain about the lakes dropping? See.....funny.

You're link doesn't mean anything. No water was dumped the last several years in the Tuolumne so why this year? I guess the salmon only come up once every 5 years and on schedule. They're dumping water and not for environmental reasons. They might say they are and maybe they're following law now but they haven't done so in years so why now? They were dumping water out of Melones a couple months back. Do you have an answer for that?
El Jefe should be more concerned about them dumping water then us so called tree huggers.

I think melones was releasing water because Oakdale irrigation district started delivering water to farmers the first week of march. Fortunately we aren't as tight on water as some other districts, the farmers in OID will get our normal allocation this year.

There is also some state mandated bs regulation that requires them releasing something like 40% of historic flows at all times or something like that....too lazy to look for the actual link.

There are tons of F&G regulations on each of these water sheds that require water releases at different times of year. This is NOT the first year period....... if it was up to the water districts there would be ZERO water running out until the lakes were full each year but due to greenies they don't allow us to do that.

Brings me back to my original question.... would you prefer the water flow unimpeded for the health of the Delta or keeping the water for the health of our economy, the lake, drinking water, food?

Of course there going to say the delta because they want to go fishing

No ramps is not and excuse to go fishing at Oroville their to many other way to go fishing at that lake besides a bassboat.

El Jefe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 9:20 pm

Whoopbass wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:39 pm

El Jefe wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:51 pm


Lol.... you asked why they were turning water loose.....I said it was because of tree huggers.... you said it wasn't ? I posted an article that shows who is responsible so what are you mad about? You are mad that this is the first year or the 50th?

Anyways, the irony that brightens my day are guys who argue that the farmers steal all of the water from the delta and when they do release water into the delta then they complain about the lakes dropping? See.....funny.

You're link doesn't mean anything. No water was dumped the last several years in the Tuolumne so why this year? I guess the salmon only come up once every 5 years and on schedule. They're dumping water and not for environmental reasons. They might say they are and maybe they're following law now but they haven't done so in years so why now? They were dumping water out of Melones a couple months back. Do you have an answer for that?
El Jefe should be more concerned about them dumping water then us so called tree huggers.

I think melones was releasing water because Oakdale irrigation district started delivering water to farmers the first week of march. Fortunately we aren't as tight on water as some other districts, the farmers in OID will get our normal allocation this year.

There is also some state mandated bs regulation that requires them releasing something like 40% of historic flows at all times or something like that....too lazy to look for the actual link.

There are tons of F&G regulations on each of these water sheds that require water releases at different times of year. This is NOT the first year period....... if it was up to the water districts there would be ZERO water running out until the lakes were full each year but due to greenies they don't allow us to do that.

Brings me back to my original question.... would you prefer the water flow unimpeded for the health of the Delta or keeping the water for the health of our economy, the lake, drinking water, food?

Melones water wasn't being released for irrigation purposes. Irrigation water out of Melones gets siphoned off before it even hits the river. That water was going out to the Pacific or OID/SJID done another one of their water sales and they sold water to fill some lake down south or something. Or maybe they got orders from this administration to dump water to save some mythical creature. Who knows

I agree that water districts would release zero water down the river because they don't give a damn about the rivers or what creature relies upon them.

Any state or federally mandates to release water for flows are being ignored just like the laws to protect our borders from illegal immigration.

I would like to see a common sense balance of water use. Do a study on historical water averages and figure out how much water this state can provide for AG, population, and the environment. I think were at full capacity right now until we get new water storage.

I'm tired of the lies the water districts toss out there. OID pays FishBio for favorable results and MID does their own study and makes a dvd documentary on it. According to them the striped bass is responsible for everything.
Pedro has more water then Melones. MID started a month later then OID this year and is limiting water use to 30" per acre. OID starts early and says take all the water you want.
OID is nothing but the Fox watching the hen house.

I guess you'll get over it

Yep. This is a dead topic. Nothing we can do about it. We're all going to lose in the end.
Just got my boat and gear ready. Going fishing tomorrow while I still can.

Yep same here installed new graph and going to go set it up tomorrow and catch a few bass

Come on now, no secrets here, It’s ALL about the $$$$ fellas. Exactly why I gave it up! Dan

It sucks for anglers who have worked hard and learned a fishery when someone on YouTube who wants to get a little free product puts it out there for all to see. Most people don’t want to work at their game and just want to be spoon fed, so they gobble it up. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the “look at me” mentality will be changing anytime soon.

TonyM wrote: ↑Fri Apr 29, 2022 9:02 am It sucks for anglers who have worked hard and learned a fishery when someone on YouTube who wants to get a little free product puts it out there for all to see. Most people don’t want to work at their game and just want to be spoon fed, so they gobble it up. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the “look at me” mentality will be changing anytime soon.

Yeah, these youtubers are total egotistic assholes. They crave attention and honestly a lot of them suck. Most of them finish in the middle of the pack at tournaments. I'm waiting for the day when one comes to roll at my gym. Thier rod arm might not be working to well afterword.

Your spots are everyone else’s spots on the Delta. Have you been to Mildred, Mandeville, Franks, whites, etc…? Jam packed with boats… social media exposes baits and techniques more than anything, a benefit from how I see it. You should be more concerned with the spraying, sea lions, poachers, and livewell stuffers…

It's taking the heat off the almond farmers

Derrick wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:07 am Everywhere I go on the delta people are filming there catches. Then post to YouTube. So the spots can be cherry picked. I don't get it?

Ahhh, the jealousy from the skunks, smell the defeat, ahhh