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The differences are???.............



Thanks.

A crank bait is exactly what it sounds like, its a bait that you crank in at different speeds, but typically always moving.

Ripbait is exactly what it sounds like also, you rip, and pause the bait, I get most of my bites on the pause.

Crank bait typical rounder body bait.

RipBait typical longer, and skinnier body bait!

The body of the baits are different. Cranks are short and fat bodied (standard billed cranks not lipless). Jerk/rip baits are longer slender bodied. Cranks are fished on a more steady retrieve typically and jerk baits are fished with a jerk, jerk, pause retrieve.

Crank baits are more of a steady retrieve and pauses. Jerk or Rip baits are more of a.....rip ....suspend.... rip....rip... suspend.

Hey lets make it really confusing. You can rip a jerk bait, Jerk a crank bait, and crank rip bait. Or whatever....

Joe W. wrote:Cranks are short and fat bodied.......... Jerk/rip baits are longer slender bodied..........Cranks are fished on a more steady retrieve typically and jerk baits are fished with a jerk, jerk, pause retrieve.

Exactly what I was lookin for. Thank you guys.

How would you classify the Rat-L trap by the way?

Rat-l-traps are lipless crankbaits.

ratle-trpas can be yo-yoed, ripped, or just plain cranked.

i have even used a ratle-trap like a spoon.

In reality jerking/ripping and cranking are techniques, not specific baits..You can do either technique with either type bait..As posted, what is considered rip/jerk baits are generally slender minnow type baits that either float or suspend when paused..Cranikbaits tend to have fatter and shorter bodies and diving depth is determined by lip shape and size, with the exception of lipless crankbaits..You can use any hard plastic bait for ripping/jerking or just plain cranking..Some actually perform better than others in each case..But to get the best performance from any of these baits, do not be afraid to try all of the techniques..

mac

mac (Doyle McEwen) wrote:In reality jerking/ripping and cranking are techniques, not specific baits..You can do either technique with either type bait..As posted, what is considered rip/jerk baits are generally slender minnow type baits that either float or suspend when paused..Cranikbaits tend to have fatter and shorter bodies and diving depth is determined by lip shape and size, with the exception of lipless crankbaits..You can use any hard plastic bait for ripping/jerking or just plain cranking..Some actually perform better than others in each case..But to get the best performance from any of these baits, do not be afraid to try all of the techniques..

mac

I agree with you mac but you will not get the same erratic action on a crank bait that you will say on a rip bait ripping it.

As I said, some are better for specific techniques than the others, but any of them can be used for each..You have to keep an open mind when it comes to using artificials..Even though they may really shine with one technique does not mean they will not catch fish using an entirely different technique..Even at times producing results better than the technique they were designed for..Like Cooch preaches, you have to let the fish tell you what they want and when they want it..Unfortunately, I am hard of hearing and sometimes don't hear what the fish are telling me..

mac

ripping prop baits.....

Another thing to think about Buzz, is typically, Jerk/rip baits are better suited under cold water conditions, or conditions that present us with unstable weather. For me, these are best suited from late September to early March. This could vary from one lake to another, as well as one state to another depending on the conditions. I've also experienced that these jerk/rip baits tend to work better in clear water conditions.

Standard crankbaits, those that tend to be used with a steady retrive most of the time, are shorter and often fatter baits, including lipless cranks, can be used year round, but are most effective in warmer water conditions, like from early March through October. Crank baits are a lot more effective in stained water, but work quite well in clear water too.

This by no means is a rule of thumb, since as Mac mentions, ya need to be versatile all the time and listen to what the fish are telling you about the strikes yer getting or not. Either of these tactics, and the variety of baits available fer each, can work on any given day, yet this will give you an idea when they are best utilized for maximum effectiveness.

To add a little more...
For me, ripbaits are used when I want a baitfish imitator (which isn't that often!). Like the others have said, slender body, more fish-like action (a wiggle as opposed to a wobble)

Lipped Crankbaits are kind of both crawfish/baitfish imitator, with the first being more prominent, since they are usually bouncing around erratically off the bottom structure/cover. Obviously, cranks in fish patterns represent bottom feeding fish.
If you have a lake or pond with carp, find a carp color pattern crank, they will often produce some more fish on top of the craw patterns, it definitely offers a different food type for the bass to scope out!

Lipless cranks are just one of those things that works, pretty much anytime/anywhere, they are very versatile. Baitfish color always work well when there are shad or minnows and the like. Red craw patterns just work for whatever reason, whether your bouncing around on the bottom of cranking them over the weedtops.

Good luck with the crankin', it's definitely lends itself to bein a dummy bait, but when the bite is on, its pretty damn fun!!

BassManDan

mac (Doyle McEwen) wrote:In reality jerking/ripping and cranking are techniques, not specific baits..You can do either technique with either type bait..As posted, what is considered rip/jerk baits are generally slender minnow type baits that either float or suspend when paused..Cranikbaits tend to have fatter and shorter bodies and diving depth is determined by lip shape and size, with the exception of lipless crankbaits..You can use any hard plastic bait for ripping/jerking or just plain cranking..Some actually perform better than others in each case..But to get the best performance from any of these baits, do not be afraid to try all of the techniques..

mac

I think I am going to save this and refer back to it anytime I need a reminder about the contradiction that man is and will always be....


"In reality jerking/ripping and cranking are techniques, not specific baits"

and then just a couple sentences later...

"Cranikbaits tend to have fatter and shorter bodies"

LOL... Thanks Mac.. I needed that.


Crankbaits are a bait, cranking is a technique, Ripbaits are a bait (more minnow like) and ripping is a technique.

I often use a ripping technique when I am fishing chatterbaits around highly aggressive bass and tend to slow roll the chatterbait around less active bass, just barely fast enough to keep it wobbling.

Contradiction aside, I too like your point Mac, Let the fish tell you what they like. (but you get points deducted for brown nosin' Cooch and extra points deducted for Cooch reciprocating.... LOL)

Good thread..

Kudos to you too Brambo... Great spin with the confusion thing... very nice...