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Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:51 am
by mac (Doyle McEwen)
Forget who makes it, what I want to know is what makes it a good frog rod..I desire info on preferred length, action and such..I'll probably be pairing it with an older Curado..
mac
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:28 am
by TomAtkeson
I don't know what the other guys will say but I've been using a 7' Heavy ex fast St. Croix that is awesome, handles shell crackers and guerrilla warefare fishing back in the jungle to boot! They don't cost much and it has served me well for these multiple situations. I'm sure there are much better rods and many reasons mine isn't ideal, but it suites me.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:29 am
by Vince Borges
I actualy use three different rods. In open water or around docks and such, I go with a Phenix 700XH which is a 7' XH rod. if I am fishing weed mats that are not to thick or have a lot of open pockets I use the Phenix 703XH which is our 7'3" XH Frog rod. If I am fishing sparse tullies or needing longer casts for some reason then I go with the Phenix 707XH which is 7'7" This rod gives a little more leverage at 7'7". If I only had one choice as many people do, I would go with the 703 which fits the perfect frog rod in my opinion. It has plenty of back bone, Tones of strength and a nice soft tip for walking the frog.
Vince
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:03 am
by DPetty
You ask what makes a good frog rod.
Dobyns 735C Full 7'3", 1pc, 12-25lb, 1/4-1 1/2oz, Med/Hvy Flip Ex Fast Action Frog, Pitchin' & Flippin', Small Swimbaits Cast Rod
Dobyns 736C Full 7'3", 1pc, 14-25lb, 3/8-2oz, Hvy Flip Ex Fast Action Frog, Pitchin' & Flippin' Casting Rod
I have both and paired with older Curados (201 B). IMO there aren't better frogs rod out there.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:26 am
by big_limits
For me what mekes a good frog rod is...
Gotta be stout but with a good/fast tip
I prefer a 7'6'' rod cuz i like it to pick up line fast and leverage. many times the line is around a tullie or caught in grass or a mat so a longer rod really helps drive the hook. I'm 6'1 and the 7'6'' is perfect for me
Gotta have good line guides. handles braid without notching.
I also like the butt section to be short. outta the way when walking the frog.
You should buy the St. Dobypowefenpheniglass... It's the best!!!
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 1:16 pm
by mac (Doyle McEwen)
I'll keep my eyes open for one of the rods Big Limits..With a name like that, you would think they would be easy to find and on sale..I really appreciate your input on what makes a good frog rod..I know most major companies make a good one, but in all honesty I really had no idea what to really look for..
mac
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:55 pm
by Long Nguyen
,Gees Mac, can't catch a crankbait fish on your Dobyns rod so you're jumping ship to frog fishing already?

j/k
I currently use two different rods depending on the circumstances. One for open water and one for mats. Oddly, I do not currently own a
dedicated frog rod.
The open water frog rod I use is a little soft and lighter in action yet is still powerful. Mainly casting to sparse tules or edges of tules. Something like a 7' mh action rated up to 17 or 20lb test.
The mat rod is my pool cue. Strong enough to haul out a bass and 10lbs of weeds. I typically use my 8' flip stick for this application or my 7' xh casting rod.
If I were shopping for a dedicated frog rod, I'd look at the 735 or 736 models. Maybe even entertain the Dean Rojas frog rod from Quantum too. I saw an advertisement from Big Jim Davis selling a bunch of Quantum stuff in the classifieds. Maybe a Dean Rojas frog rod is available.
Good luck Mac.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:14 pm
by Stretch1
the 725 lami or the 806 lami those are both pretty good sticks
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:29 pm
by basswipe
daiwa frog light and tough rod has worked for me. Nice and light, and its a reasonable price.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 8:05 pm
by big bass beckstrom
I would definately look at the Powell 725 and 735. These rods have a heavy back bone and a fast action, making it easy to walk the frogs, hop them over mats, pitch them, ect. The fast tip is also awesome for the hook up ratios because it has enough give to let the fish take it, but enough backbone to hit them hard and get them out of the thick stuff.
P.S. Both of these rods make awesome Punker rods

Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:15 am
by VinceH
Mac-
I am not sure if anyone in the above threads touched on the importance of the tip or not. Powell makes two rods as mentioned below that are perfect and on my boat at all times. The 735 is a stiffer rod that I use for what I like to call open water, heavy mat, tulle and timber applications. this rod is more parabollic and more of your broomstick like fishing rod. perfect for pulling fish out of the muck, and over docks and heavy cover.
The 725 is PERFECT for applications such as skipping under tree branches, docks, and overhanging brush. It is so important to have a frog rod that allows you to put that bait where most people can't get to. The 725 also has a good back bone to it.
You can't go wrong with either of them, however, I have got both of them for the different types of applications. I team both of them up with the bu Garcia REVO STX. This low profile reel has 28lbs. of drag and ZERO line slippage. Tough combo to beat.
Hope this helps-
Vince Hurtado
Loomis frog rod 863C
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:20 am
by some guy
http://products.gloomis.com/gl/products ... 3388534939
I have been using this rod for a few years now. I have fished alot of different rods and this one takes the cake for me.
Re: Loomis frog rod 863C
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:29 am
by Micropterus salmoides
No disrespect to some guy, but the G Loomis frog rod is a turd. If you do a search on various fishing forums you will find the same.
none taken amigo
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:50 am
by some guy
I dont do my research on forums. I pick up a rod and fish it. Some people like em, some don't. I have tried coutnless frog rods and fish the frog a few times a week. I have had custom ones built, There are some newer ones that have came out in the last two years I havent tried because I havent had a reason to switch. My 8ft frog rod is a lamiglass. Thats the second best one I have came across.
Have you fished it Micropterus? What's your weapon of choice? Im always looking for an advantage on the next guy. it may not be the best rod out there but i have the best results with it.
Re: none taken amigo
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:31 pm
by Micropterus salmoides
someguy, I wasn't directing my comment about searching various forums towards you.

Just a general comment.
Last summer I read up quite a bit about rods for frogging, asked questions, and checked rods out myself. I've never fished the G Loomis frog rod, but I did hold it several years back and it was too heavy for my liking and didn't seem to have the power I was looking for. Last year as well as this year I came across an overwhelming majority of negative comments about it so I didn't even bother looking at it again. You're one of the few people who mentioned liking it.
I was using the g1 Dobyns 735C, which I liked except for a few instances when I wish I had more power after hooking into some toads in heavy vegetation/mats. Other than that it worked well. This year I picked up the g2 735C and 736C. I'm going to try the 736C first too see how well I can walk a frog with it. If I can do it with ease it may become my all-around frog rod for open water and mats.
Like you said, if you find something that works for you then that's what really matters.
Re: none taken amigo
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:08 pm
by outdoorsman
I throw a curado 200 dhsv with a shimano flipping stick. The thing is a broomstick, and really has the muscle for fishin in junk.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:24 pm
by Rich hamilton
Mac,
That dobyns frog rod is a dream. Everything else I own is loomis but that frog rod is sweet. Find a pro staffer and borrow one for a day (Brian Ruthman) or someone. It will sell itself

hope all is well.
Regards, Rich
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:45 pm
by rickd
basswipe wrote:daiwa frog light and tough rod has worked for me. Nice and light, and its a reasonable price.
+1
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:14 pm
by Cesar L
I have the loomis frog rod...its perfect for the slop, but it doesn't feel right for open water...I think its a too heavy (weight). Im really looking into a powell 735 but cant find one anywhere to hold.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:40 am
by fishinfool74
I was really looking into a powell 735 but could not find one anywhere. I just just got my hands on one and it its pretty sweet. I gave up on the local stores since nobody has what I want, tired of the (sorry we seem to be out of stock, we might have it In a week or two) So off to Tackle Warehouse, the best service I have found.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:05 am
by DeltaBound
The Powell 735 is really a nice rod.
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:33 am
by ugly stick
DOBYNS 766!
Re: Time to start looking for a frog rod
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:54 am
by civicrr
Saw the Powell recently @ both Walton's Pond (San Leandro) & Mel Cotton's (San Jose).
Personally, I picked the Dobyns 735. IMO, it is lighter & better balanced.