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For the life of me I cannot understand why people like to use 2000, 2500 or larger size spinning reels..

Can someone please help me understand why guys like to use "coffee grinders"..
IMO, it just adds to much weight and clunk to an application that should be finesse..

1000 size if perfect for me and 1500 is the MAX that I will ever use unless convinced otherwise..

Line comes off of the spool easier for longer casts. Less line twist. 2000/2500 size is not that big IMO.

I catch big fish.. Requires lots of line for drag..

I'm with you Rod
The 1500 and 2000 sizes are pretty much perfect, it hold plenty of line, drag is good (when you get a good reel) and I can't remember too many situations where I needed to torque on a bass with a spinning reel.

1500's hold anything from 2-6lb and the 2000's anything from 6-10lb.

Rod: Curling two sets of 20 with 10-pound hand bells three times a week and any sized spinning reel is a feather. For me, the bigger spool is all about speed. Even 7:1 baitcasters are hopelessly slow by comparison when you need to pick up line, catch up to fish or stay in control. If they were lighter still, I'd use them even more.

gk

I use the 2500's mostly for no other reason than it's just what I'm used to I guess..

I hear all you guys but I don't buy this "less line twist" nor this "cast farther" talk..

I know guys who fish WITH me and they use "coffee grinders" and get just as much line twist as me or the next guy.. and I can cast just as far if not farther than them with my 1000 size reel..

Having said that, those "GIANT" reels are just a overkill..
Also I welcome any of you guys to hold/try my spinning combo and I bet you will agree that it feels GREAT compared to that anvil weight combos that others are using..

PS.. I do hear you guys on the gear ratio factor but I have yet to have a "slow reel" cause me to loose or miss a fish..

Rod, you don't have to buy cause I'm not selling. Look at what Kevin VanDam uses when ripping with flourocarbon. Try it yourself. Put flourocarbon on your tiny reel and see what happens. How comfortable you are holding the rod is an issue. However, the issues I mentioned are more important to me. It is simple physics and not that hard to understand. More coils/twists per yard of line = more friction and greater possibility of getting a loop in your line. Also 2000/2500 size reel is hardly GIANT. Shimano 2500 holds about 150 yards of 10lb. test. Use what you like. I will use my "giant reels that are overkill". Shimano 2500 reels are far from anvils. But cool thanks for putting down my choice of tackle. I'm sure yours is far superior.

Rod, I use a Daiwa 2500 Fuego(8.5oz) paired with a Dobyns DX702SF(about 5.5oz) and would hardly call that a heavy or over sized combo. At worst that combo weigh's 14oz. And I think my Sol is about the same weight.And I use 8lb power pro on the Fuego for drop shot. Don't notice to much line twist with the braid and flo leader.GB..Jim

Personally, I'll take a faster reel over a slower one for most applications because I hate not keeping tight line when reeling in a fish, so the faster speed would mean a lot to me. Now if I can just get comfortable using a spinning reel in the first place that would be great!

Since when is a 2500 reel giant? Thats pretty much the most popular sized freshwater spinning reel!

Paul Wolter

sker13 wrote:Rod, you don't have to buy cause I'm not selling. Look at what Kevin VanDam uses when ripping with flourocarbon. Try it yourself. Put flourocarbon on your tiny reel and see what happens. How comfortable you are holding the rod is an issue. However, the issues I mentioned are more important to me. It is simple physics and not that hard to understand. More coils/twists per yard of line = more friction and greater possibility of getting a loop in your line. Also 2000/2500 size reel is hardly GIANT. Shimano 2500 holds about 150 yards of 10lb. test. Use what you like. I will use my "giant reels that are overkill". Shimano 2500 reels are far from anvils. But cool thanks for putting down my choice of tackle. I'm sure yours is far superior.

Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.. It was more just talkin random junk thats all.. and you are right..
TEHO (to each his own)

Having said that, I brought this up because I have been trying to hold out on getting a 2500 but now I guess I better get one to see what I been missing out on..
Thanks for the info guys..

Paul W wrote:Since when is a 2500 reel giant? Thats pretty much the most popular sized freshwater spinning reel!

Paul Wolter

Well I use the Stradic 4000 and I like them quite a bit these must be ginormus.

*NM*

Stradic 4000 were my favorite reels , now i've Downsized to 2500 and 3000 thats as small as I will go the 4000 is nowhere near giant

Large reels by far for a totally different reason. I don't trust the drag on any casting or spinning reel, and keep them tightened all the way down. With casting reels push the line release and and thumb the line on the big ones. With spinning reels the larger reels have a higher retreive per handle turn, so the same applies when you back reel. Hook a big fish and back reel. If the reel has a retreive rate of 30 inches per handle turn 3 quick back reels and you've given the fish over 7 ft. of line.

I disagree, drag sets are crucial to me something has got to give and back reelin is not for everyone knuckle buster back spins are not for me, know your drag for line test and let em pull down when they run exept in heavy cover, loose drags can prevent a hook set ,and tight drags break fish off,I'd rather have a loose drag than a tight one when playin a good fish . Lockin drags down is for flippin and then I still give it some slip.. reels are much better these days trust your drag just set it right as possible

swordfish wrote:I disagree, drag sets are crucial to me something has got to give and back reelin is not for everyone knuckle buster back spins are not for me, know your drag for line test and let em pull down when they run exept in heavy cover, loose drags can prevent a hook set ,and tight drags break fish off,I'd rather have a loose drag than a tight one when playin a good fish . Lockin drags down is for flippin and then I still give it some slip.. reels are much better these days trust your drag just set it right as possible

I agree.. Backreeling is a JOKE.. I don't buy $400 spinning reels to not trust my drag..

Delaney, you are right on I feel exactly the same way been back reeling for 25 yrs have-not lost a fish yet because of it I am 6 ft & weigh about 250 what the hell do i need an out fit that weighs a few ounces for, if I had to do that I would take up trout fishing with a ultra light out fit Oh by the way I use all 4000 series reels

I bought into the bigger spool theory. Here is the problem. The bigger spools cast less distance because the larger coils that come slap the rod, and don't go through the guides easy. With the coils slowing down through the guides and what's peeling off the spool at a faster rate you get more tangles. I tested this with powel 702 rods and 8# seagar line. The reels are diawa Tierra 2500 and 1500. Any of you guys want to trade a 2500 for a 1500 let me know.
other test failures like power pro ace are for sale to.

I use alot of 2500.. i also have a few smaller ones.. i like the bigger spinning reel loaded with 8lb so i can fish 60+ ft of water and when i go to pick up line that deep it picks it up quicker.. some of my biggest big worm fish have been on a spinning reel.

I main fish baitcasting set ups, put there is a time and place for eveything.. thats why they offer it.

If 2500 series reel are good enough for Elite pros like KVD, Ike and Skeet, thats good enough reason to have a couple in your boat. The smallest spinning reels I bass fish with are 2000 series, and thats when I am forced to use 4lb line. My main spinning reels are 2500 and 2508 series reels. Bigger spools, bigger handles, and more line picked up. When you are fighting a toad spot or a nutty big small mouth and they decide to dart right at you, you will wish you had a bigger and FASTER reel. Many tackle companies offer very light weight 2500 series reels, but they are not cheap. For a tournament angler, a spinning reel is not the place to try to save a buck. Don't get your feelings hurt on the water messing with trout sized spinning reels. Just buy the dang 2500 series...

Most 1000 spinning reels weigh 7-oz while most 2500 weigh 9-oz, the weight diff. is insignificant. Bass fisherman use 6-1/2' to 7-1/2' spinning rods so the extra 2-oz you don't even feel they balance each other. But I have to admit I have 4 or 5 1000, the kids use them with the little baby trout rods put some 6-lb line, pinch weight and a minnow and their ready. Most bass anglers don't use anything smaller then 2500 spinning reels, I have seen enough rods on the deck of Elite and FLW tour guys to know. Look at Martens; one of the best finesse fishermen in the world usually has like 3000 and larger. Plus that tiny spool creates more and tighter spool loops that seem to hang up on the guides, and like everyone else has said you don't have the confidence in the drag, casting distance, power of a 2500 and/or larger. I could go on and on and the little bail release stinks. I'm 6'-4" and go 250 my hands don't work well with those little guys, save them for the kids.

Most 1000 spinning reels weigh 7-oz while most 2500 weigh 9-oz, the weight diff. is insignificant. Bass fisherman use 6-1/2' to 7-1/2' spinning rods so the extra 2-oz you don't even feel they balance each other. But I have to admit I have 4 or 5 1000, the kids use them with the little baby trout rods put some 6-lb line, pinch weight and a minnow and their ready. Most bass anglers don't use anything smaller then 2500 spinning reels, I have seen enough rods on the deck of Elite and FLW tour guys to know. Look at Martens; one of the best finesse fishermen in the world usually has like 3000 and larger. Plus that tiny spool creates more and tighter spool loops that seem to hang up on the guides, and like everyone else has said you don't have the confidence in the drag, casting distance, power of a 2500 and/or larger. I could go on and on and the little bail release stinks. I'm 6'-4" and go 250 my hands don't work well with those little guys, save them for the kids.

Different brands of reels have different arbor sizes on there spools. My diawa Tierra in a 1500 has about the spool diameter as my 3000 shimano stradic. So the diawa 2500 tierras have a huge spool. The biggest shimano reel I have is a 4000 and the diawa 2500 spool looks bigger in diameter.

So keep in mind this mans 2500 is bigger than yours.

Rod Wynn wrote:For the life of me I cannot understand why people like to use 2000, 2500 or larger size spinning reels..

Can someone please help me understand why guys like to use "coffee grinders"..
IMO, it just adds to much weight and clunk to an application that should be finesse..

1000 size if perfect for me and 1500 is the MAX that I will ever use unless convinced otherwise..

Rod

If you wanna use the smaller size reels try using the braid to flouro connection......No line twist ever......

That is what I do.....I actually put some cheap 10lb backing then feel the spool with around 75 yards of braid(Toray) then put about 20 winds of my flouro.....I use all 2508 and 2500 reels.

Damn!
I guess I am the ONLY idiot who is using 1000 size reels..

Well imma take some advice and cop me a 2500 Fireblood and see whats really good..

Hey Rod do what feels comfortable to you. I use sustain 1000's and 7ft mh rods. I only use 6lb test flourocarbon on my spinning reels. I use to get caught up in what was the norm but found out that the norm usually didn't suit me very well. If you set you're drag right and use a quality line like p-line or seaguar you can catch really big fish on a spinnig reel with no problem. I have caught probably 40 fish over 8lbs and 5 over 10lbs on my sustain 1000 with 6lb test. You also don't need any backing on your reel either. The spools hold the perfect amount of 6lb line too.

Use what ever you want and stop worrying about what the limp wristed guys use or what the big husky guys use. Please yourself, the fish donrt really care.

Jim

I have used 2500's for quite a few years. I am now switching to the 3000 Stradic FI's - same size frame, same weight, but larger spool, so they pick up a little more line. My thing is the rod has to feel balanced. If it's a 1500 or a 4000 doesn't really matter as long as it feels good in your hand. Just my .02