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Lots of old names you'll recognize as well as some new players that made the list for 2011.

Read it here:

http://kramergonefishing.com/2011/11/07 ... an-jose-2/

Though 90% of the people on there are very deserving of the top 40, I believe the order in which some are listed leaves a lot to be desired! But, as always, it's just George being George! LOL

Shouldn't Bob Riehl be Rob Riehl?

If you call him Bob I don't think he'd answer

How did he leave Mike Reynolds off that list???????

kb

exactly KB, and some of the guys on there haven't wet a line in almost two years!!

It most certainly should have been Rob Riehl, for which I am deeply sorry. If it appears incorrectly outside of my website, I take the blame. Spell check won't fix my error. Rob: My bad.

As for the Reynolds lobbyists, of course he was under consideration. But when you take the final hard number finish among his peers on that circuit, he was 24th. That's not high enough on any circuit except for maybe the Elites, where 20th or so makes the cut.

Now here's a fact: Older I get, the more I wish I did the Top 100 because the angler pool is bigger and better than it ever was. (But you know who wouldn't be happy then? No.101).

Such a troublemaker

I think the list is great.....

Joe Uribe Jr. is a great angler and a better person, outside of John Morrow their probably isn't a nicer guy.

Lester Albury is a stick, he won Co-Angler of the year on the Everstart circuit. A non shared weight format. That is an accomplishment in itself.

Cameron Smith, in my opinion is one of the last true sticks from the San Diego City Lakes area. Dude isn't apart of the many cliques that litter this sport. He has shined in the Joe Seales era now he is doing it in the Tom Leedom era....

Speaking of? Where is Tom Leedom on your list? he was on this list last year. This year he did twice as much as he did the previous year. Cashed a check at the Open. And has won numerous AOY's here in San Diego. He can catch them anywhere even during the "Steroid Era" we had in San Diego.....

Tony Richards

Blind spot?

Congrats to Zaldain. Deserved and earned as far as I can see. The young man is well composed and apparently does his home work. Not easy to compete with a bunch of locals and he earned AOY honors. Now lets keep it rolling young man and best of luck to you.

Sean

How does Ken Mah not make the list with a top ten in the FLW Delta and Clearlake. No Bub with all the top finishes last year.

Ken Mah is definitely a miss in my opinion, he is a great stick with some nice finishes this year and a great guy on top of all that... Congratulations to all of you who made the list, Im sure this is not easy to do and you will never make everyone happy.

Congrats to Team Dead Money!

right on Matt Allen! this guy doesn't even fish tourny's for the most part and is considered # 16. Dude is a hammer and has a knack for catching the monsters we all invision ourselves catching! congrats to all others as well !!!!!!!!!!




Travis Tate

Thanks Mark!!! I like the list this year...only cause Im on it...hahaha JK George..

I still think Pat Kinery deserves a spot in the top 20..hes a frickin witch!!

Thanks for the pat on the back George...Im grateful...Its an honor!!!

Pete

Oh the list!!!!!!!!!! makes no sense to me but everyone loves it.

Zorro - he makes the sign of the Z

Haters gonna Hate!

I understand that the list is created to create controversy blah blah blah, but all it honestly does, is make me not want to read anything else Mr. Kramer writes or has any part in. It is absurd year after year after year, yet we California bass anglers somehow give it legitimacy and eat up what this guy says as gospel.

No Bub Tosh? Are you kidding me? And Mike Tuck at 38? This guy is a threat, and a top five main stay at ANY tournament on any body of water in Northern California, ANYTIME of year, not to mention his Everstart win a few weeks ago. Matt Allen at 16?!?! ahead of Folkstead, Lintner, Z Thompson, Dee, Tuck and Lee?! WOOOWWWW...REAAAAALLLLLY?!

I think Mr. Kramer needs to find a new definition of his "research" because "diligent" is anything but fitting.

Andy

Andy Lippert wrote:I understand that the list is created to create controversy blah blah blah, but all it honestly does, is make me not want to read anything else Mr. Kramer writes or has any part in. It is absurd year after year after year, yet we California bass anglers somehow give it legitimacy and eat up what this guy says as gospel.

No Bub Tosh? Are you kidding me? And Mike Tuck at 38? This guy is a threat, and a top five main stay at ANY tournament on any body of water in Northern California, ANYTIME of year, not to mention his Everstart win a few weeks ago. Matt Allen at 16?!?! ahead of Folkstead, Lintner, Z Thompson, Dee, Tuck and Lee?! WOOOWWWW...REAAAAALLLLLY?!

I think Mr. Kramer needs to find a new definition of his "research" because "diligent" is anything but fitting.

Andy

Andy Lippert is the Eternal Happy Camper.

Some call it negative...I call it real. To each his own. Life isn't always smiles and sunshine Mr. Fish Food. It's as if nobody is willing to stand up, speak their mind and call BS anymore...hippie used to be pretty good at it, but he got banned. So it goes...

Now back to my Ballast Point-Sculpin IPA....

littlebailey wrote:Oh the list!!!!!!!!!! makes no sense to me but everyone loves it.

hahaha....exactly how I feel when I read it. Its ONE mans view people...relax! Some are on it and aren't. big deal... its just a single persons view.

For me its always interesting to see the names! hahaha'

oh yeah...congrats Paul...you made "the list" hahaha!

Its an honor to be on the list, thank you George! There is some great new talent on the list. Congratulations Chris for taking the top honors, well deserved.

Andy Lippert wrote:Some call it negative...I call it real. To each his own. Life isn't always smiles and sunshine Mr. Fish Food. It's as if nobody is willing to stand up, speak their mind and call BS anymore...hippie used to be pretty good at it, but he got banned. So it goes...

Yes, but hippie was able to push peoples' buttons with a certain wit and economy of words. He was very acerbic--count me as a fan!

Bring back Hippie!!! Miss that little Chinaman.

+3 - Hippie was funny!

Andy Lippert wrote:I understand that the list is created to create controversy blah blah blah, but all it honestly does, is make me not want to read anything else Mr. Kramer writes or has any part in. It is absurd year after year after year, yet we California bass anglers somehow give it legitimacy and eat up what this guy says as gospel.

No Bub Tosh? Are you kidding me? And Mike Tuck at 38? This guy is a threat, and a top five main stay at ANY tournament on any body of water in Northern California, ANYTIME of year, not to mention his Everstart win a few weeks ago. Matt Allen at 16?!?! ahead of Folkstead, Lintner, Z Thompson, Dee, Tuck and Lee?! WOOOWWWW...REAAAAALLLLLY?!

I think Mr. Kramer needs to find a new definition of his "research" because "diligent" is anything but fitting.

Andy

LMAO, well said...

+4 Hippie

Andy Lippert wrote:I understand that the list is created to create controversy blah blah blah, but all it honestly does, is make me not want to read anything else Mr. Kramer writes or has any part in. It is absurd year after year after year, yet we California bass anglers somehow give it legitimacy and eat up what this guy says as gospel.

No Bub Tosh? Are you kidding me? And Mike Tuck at 38? This guy is a threat, and a top five main stay at ANY tournament on any body of water in Northern California, ANYTIME of year, not to mention his Everstart win a few weeks ago. Matt Allen at 16?!?! ahead of Folkstead, Lintner, Z Thompson, Dee, Tuck and Lee?! WOOOWWWW...REAAAAALLLLLY?!

I think Mr. Kramer needs to find a new definition of his "research" because "diligent" is anything but fitting.

Andy

+1000 I think people dont realize its just an opinion of some guy.. same as any other guy. And where the heck is butch brown! that many double digits and no ranking

Spanky211 wrote:right on Matt Allen! this guy doesn't even fish tourny's for the most part and is considered # 16. Dude is a hammer and has a knack for catching the monsters we all invision ourselves catching! congrats to all others as well !!!!!!!!!!
Travis Tate

A guy that did me dirty makes a top 40 list? How cool is that? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

bassindon69 wrote:

Spanky211 wrote:right on Matt Allen! this guy doesn't even fish tourny's for the most part and is considered # 16. Dude is a hammer and has a knack for catching the monsters we all invision ourselves catching! congrats to all others as well !!!!!!!!!!
Travis Tate

A guy that did me dirty makes a top 40 list? How cool is that? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

????????

At least George puts his money where his mouth is, and posts a list.
It's a starting point. I'm sure he would be the first to say there are lots of worthy anglers who didn't make the list, but 40 is 40.
Maybe someone else should do their own homework, and post their own list, if they don't like his.

I thought Mike Andrews quit fishing.

Only George understands this list.

Mike hasn't quit fishing.......he just hasn't had time as of late. After 20 years on the river I wouldn't want to go head to head with him even if he hasn't fished a tourney as of late.

No arguement from me on that point Justin. I just thought that last time we talked he said he wasn't fishing much.

JustinD wrote:Mike hasn't quit fishing.......he just hasn't had time as of late. After 20 years on the river I wouldn't want to go head to head with him even if he hasn't fished a tourney as of late.

That sure was a mouthful....

Will Rakowitz, Troy Linder, Pat Keniry, the list goes on.....

Thanks Justin... I think its a Great list!!

Hatters gonna Hate

It's George's list. And the beauty of it is, you can make up your own Top 40 list. Got a problem with Mr. Kramer's list then go ahead and make up your own and post it here for comparisons sake. Maybe a few will post their own Top 40 list in a similar style as to George's list, i.e; 1-40 with a short narrative as to why.

You might even inspire George to consider others from your lists for his next Top 40 list,

sTony

sTony wrote:It's George's list. And the beauty of it is, you can make up your own Top 40 list. Got a problem with Mr. Kramer's list then go ahead and make up your own and post it here for comparisons sake. Maybe a few will post their own Top 40 list in a similar style as to George's list, i.e; 1-40 with a short narrative as to why.

You might even inspire George to consider others from your lists for his next Top 40 list,

sTony

Right Arm Tony.

Whiners, get to work!