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Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:04 am
by Greg_Cornish
A good pick in Sotomeyer, but I wish he'd picked someone in the early 30's 8)

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 7:39 am
by Marty
What do you base your opinion “that she is a good pickâ€

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 8:29 am
by Dan McKenzie
“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,â€

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 9:43 am
by Greg_Cornish
Since I've never met her or followed her closely, I'm basing my thoughts on what I hear. She is neither Liberal or Conservative, but is called a Centrist and does not base her opinions on a political ideology, but rather on a case by case basis.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:04 am
by Ringer
"According to Judge Sotomayor, if your state or city bans all guns the way Washington, D.C. did, that’s okay under the Constitution."

I really doubt that you could call an anti second amendment judge a conservative or even a moderate. Gee, what would that leave? Maybe a liberal who will create law from the bench. No thank you.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:25 am
by Greg_Cornish
Ringer wrote:"According to Judge Sotomayor, if your state or city bans all guns the way Washington, D.C. did, that’s okay under the Constitution."

I really doubt that you could call an anti second amendment judge a conservative or even a moderate. Gee, what would that leave? Maybe a liberal who will create law from the bench. No thank you.
I thought you were all for states rights. Just move to Montana, Texas or Minnesota. :wink:

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 10:58 am
by Ringer
Why? I live in a state where I can carry a gun on my hip, under my shirt or loaded in my truck. The second amendment applies to every American regardless of where they live so you should be filing a new lawsuit to get your constitutional rights back. The lefty 9th circuit even affirmed your rights recently. Heller was a 5-4 decision so anyone who believes in the right to keep and bear arms should be very concerned about your new appointee. It won't be a cakewalk for Obama anyway since 65 democrats from states where the second amendment can get them thrown out are on record as opposing any moves toward gun control.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:43 pm
by Thunnus Salmoides
Ringer wrote:"According to Judge Sotomayor, if your state or city bans all guns the way Washington, D.C. did, that’s okay under the Constitution."

I really doubt that you could call an anti second amendment judge a conservative or even a moderate. Gee, what would that leave? Maybe a liberal who will create law from the bench. No thank you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q

Maybe a moderate compared to Obama. I think Greg really believes that she would have voted with the majority in Heller.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:47 pm
by Ringer
That is a disturbing video for someone being considered for the SC. Shooting from the hip is usually not a positive credential.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Tue May 26, 2009 6:57 pm
by StockOption
[quote="Dan McKenzie"]“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,â€

Re: Appointee

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:36 am
by getalife
While all Supreme Court appointees are important, at least this one will not shift the balance on the bench.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 6:06 pm
by Greg_Cornish
[quote="StockOption"][quote="Dan McKenzie"]I would hope that a wise white man with the richness of his experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn’t lived that life,â€

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:11 am
by Ringer
I just read that she is an active member of La Raza so that is enough for me. Makes her emminently qualified to make totally unbiased legal decisions. :roll:

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:32 am
by Greg_Cornish
And what is it you don't like about La Raza?

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 5:46 am
by Ringer
Nothing in particular other than it is an activist organization. Do you think a SC justice should be an advocate or an interpreter of constitutional law for all Americans? How would you feel if there was a judge up that belonged to a gay rights organization or one that belonged to the NRA?

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:59 am
by Thunnus Salmoides
Greg_Cornish wrote:And what is it you don't like about La Raza?
What is it that you like about a group that calls itself "The Race"?

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:18 am
by Dan McKenzie
aside from the fact that they are a sepratist organization, nothing.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:25 am
by Ringer
Seems like every La Raza event here the speakers are advocating that the SW United States should rightfully be taken back by Mexico. No problem with that. I always embrace people who want to take over my country. Nothing to be concerned about. :roll:

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 3:17 pm
by FishaHallic
I just checked the website, http://www.nclr.org/section/about/ , it does not mention Mexico taking over the southwestern end of our country.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 4:06 pm
by Ringer
Keep digging:

Others La Razas include: MEChA or Movimeiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan translated Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, The Brown Berets de Aztlan, Orgnaization for the Liberation of Aztlan or OLA, La Raza Unida Party and the Nation of Aztlan. The primary reason for these groups is the liberation of Aztlan. They are followers of the "El Plan de Aztlan" manifesto also known as "El Pan Espirtual de Aztlan". There aim is to take back the land the United States "stole" from them. They claim the states of Arizona, California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Oregon and parts of Washington. In a book written by Carlos M. Jimenez, a Los Angeles high school teacher, "The Mexican American Heritage" a new map of North America was drawn showing Aztlan above Mexico.

Clubs espousing the MEChA Philosophy can be found in public high schools, colleges and universities. #1 of this philosophy states: "We are Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlán reclaiming the land of our birth." They preach a hatred of the United States and are radical in their approach. Members of these La Raza groups may have been responsible for replacing US flags on US government property with Mexican flags during the May 1, 2006 "Day Without Immigrants" protest in Southern California. For unknown reasons "This Is Mexico" was spray painted on Bristol Ave in Santa Ana, California during these protests. If the La Raza's were responsible, it would seem they would have spray painted "This Is Altzan".

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:00 pm
by Marty
Greg_Cornish wrote:And what is it you don't like about La Raza?
Greg, take if from me La Raza is not white friendly and the last time I look at your photo your happen to be white. This is the motto for La Raza “For the race, everything. For those outside the Race, nothing.â€

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:29 pm
by Greg_Cornish
Ringer wrote:There aim is to take back the land the United States "stole" from them. They claim the states of Arizona, California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado, Oregon and parts of Washington.
Why would they want to do that? Then no-one could drink the water.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 7:34 pm
by Dan McKenzie
It's not about Mexico, or even Latino's/hispanics. Its about Chicano/Chicana and the mythical homeland of Aztlan, and the liberation of a mythical place.

Re: Appointee

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 4:08 am
by Ringer
Hope my house isn't located in Assland.