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World Record?

Postby Kellen » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:02 am

Rumor has it the "one" has been caught at Dixon today. Stay tuned.

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Re: World Record?

Postby Bill Hutcheson » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:31 am

Here are the facts of what is currently known according to Lake Dixon staffer Tony Smock

The fish weighed was cuaght by the duo of Mac Wheatley and Jed Dickerson - familiar names at this lake - and went over 24 pounds.
Based upon the markings, the fish was the same one caught a few years back by both Long and Dickerson. THat's the good news.

The downside here is that the fish went for a swimbait, pulled up short, and ended up getting snagged when the hook was set. As such, I don't think it will officially count.

According to SMock, the fish was weighed, photographed, and videotaped. Look for more news and clearer facts to follow in the coming days.

Congrats guys - I'm just sorry she did'nt eat the swimbait.
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Re: World Record?

Postby Kellen » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:04 am

That won't keep it from being an official record. You cannot INTENTIONALLY foul hook a fish. But just as with tournament rules, foul hooking a fish due to the fish's bad aim is perfectly fine.

The issue if its a swimbait will be the hook system hes using...theres a fine line between a legal and illegal swimbait and as I understand it, most swimbaits with stinger hooks are illegal.

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Re: World Record?

Postby Bill Hutcheson » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:10 am

This fish will not be a world record for several reasons.

First and foremost, the fish was weighed on a hand scale and released per WON's phone interview with Mac Wheatley. Therefore, it was not weighed on an official scale. It was immediately released after 4 quick photos were taken.

Secondly, IGFA and CA DFG rules call what happened snagging and as such, the fish will not be considered for world record status since it was not legally caught

Finally, it was the trio of Long, Wheatley, and Dickerson who were fishing when the fish was caught. If anyone knows what to do in the instance of a world record catch, it is these guys.

No one has worked harder at a world record than these three. I am sure they will one day catch it, but for the moment, this fish will be nothing more than a quick news story and sideline in the big bass recordbooks.
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Re: World Record?

Postby MikeL » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:14 am

Wish I was fishing today, but I'm working......

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Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby Ron C » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:17 am

...I would have to agree with Hutch on this one. While foul hooking a fish would not render it an illegal catch, snagging it certainly would - accidental or otherwise.

I am sure that we will hear A LOT more about this incredible catch, but based on the extremely brief details provided by Hutch, it sounds to me as though this big fish was a bedding fish and that it charged the bait, but did not eat it entirely and got snagged in the process. (How many times has that happened to all of us?). This is entirely speculation on my part, mind you.

I am just glad that it was these gentlemen that were involved in the catch. Their personal integrity and credibility would keep them from any funny business. And, as Hutch pointed out, these guys know the ropes and most certainly would have followed the numbers, had it been a clean catch. Photographing and releasing it before it could be examined by DFG officials clearly tells me that they knew that it could not and would not be certified as a legal catch or a new world record. There is no doubt in my mind that they released the fish right away in an attempt to keep it alive, so that it can be legally caught again, thus setting a new world record. My hat is off to these guys.

I respectfully beg to differ with you regarding the use of a stinger (or “trapâ€

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Re: World Record?

Postby Vince Borges » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:28 am

what Mike, no comment? you were supposidly there. :lol:
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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby Dan Osgood » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:33 am

I believe that I have read that the use of stinger hooks depending on how they are rigged disallow a catch from IGFA consideration...I don't know for sure but I vaguely remember something like that. My mind doesn't work like it used to so take it for what it is worth.
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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby Kellen » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:36 am

Trap hooks have to be free swinging. Obviously stinger hooks in most cases that I have seen are not free swinging.

Heres a link to the IGFA rules. These might be for 2004 as the URL indicates, but they're the most current set of rules posted on their website.

http://www.igfa.org/BookRule2004.pdf

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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby BigJeff » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:37 am

Don't quote me on this but I think it has to do with the size of the treble hook. The rule is there to prevent snagging fish, but some of our swimbait treble hooks may fall into these larger hooks. Maybe Mike Giusti can further elaborate on the stinger hooks issue?

BTW snagged or not, I still want to see the pictures of this toad.

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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby 59lbwsb » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:05 am

its 100 percent true, my source was steve and dan barnett, who WERE THERE WHEN THE FISH WAS CAUGHT. they even got to touch the fish. the weighing of the fish flashed between 24 pounds and something ounces and 25 pounds. this is a 100% true story EXCEPT, this fish was NOT caught on a swimbait. still waiting on the news report when it comes.

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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby Blake R. » Mon Mar 20, 2006 12:59 pm

Hey yall, I was on another forum and found a link. I know of 2 sites depending on yall for news... This is big stuff!!! I want to see some pictures of this hawg!

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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

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Off to Dixon

Postby Al M » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:23 pm

Looks like I'll have to go to Dixon for the next 2 weeks of my vacation along with 3 other bro's in boats to look for her or another.Talk about the WR FEVER.

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Re: Even though I don't know any of the details...

Postby BigJeff » Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:30 pm

What sucks about this is all it did was open a can of worms. The fish is obviously a record fish but because of how it was hooked it probably will not be "officially" recognized. It still is the freaking toad of all time. Props to the guys for bringing her in and doing the right thing ethically.

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I fear that...

Postby Ron C » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:03 pm

...hundreds (if not thousands) of World Record seekers will now flock to tiny Lake Dixon and destroy its trophy bass population - just like they did to lakes Isabella, Castaic, Hodges, Miramar, etc.

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Re: I fear that...

Postby Steve Reed » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:32 pm

so true, but i think a couple of those other lakes have rebounded well since and will start to kick out big fish again...dixon as you said will be too crowded to fish for at least a year or so, but there's probably 3 other lakes in san diego that can put out that fish
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Re: I fear that...

Postby Sacto John » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:56 pm

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Re: I fear that...

Postby Ron T. » Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:46 pm

Ron C. Amen to that !!

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Re: I fear that...

Postby Brian Linehan » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:19 pm

I do agree that it will be harder for these trophy hunter specialists with all of the new traffic. However, Dixon is a lot different than the larger lakes because it doesn't allow big boats on it. I just hope someone catches that damn thing before it croaks.

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Re: I fear that...

Postby Shawn R. » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:30 pm

Very very cool! and i am soooooooooo glad it was caught down @ Dixon! Now they can build a theme park, film numerous TV shows, have the virtual "catch the record bass exhibit" at the lake. Is it true they broke ground on a new Starbucks at the lake too?
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Re: I fear that...

Postby Kevin » Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:14 pm

Damn, that thing is bigger than my nose!

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Re: I fear that...

Postby Brian Linehan » Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:42 pm

Now lets not get carried away. I've heard your nose referred to as the "8'th wonder of the world."

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Coming from you Brian...

Postby Ron C » Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:08 pm

...that right there is FUNNY! (That would make you number 9, wouldn't it? Or you 8 and him 9 - Well, you know what I mean. Har Har!).

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will the record be broken?

Postby smpboy » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:03 am

its defently a world record fish but i dont think it will stand. story says it was caught on a white jig and foul hooked outside the mouth so i dont think it will fly. just my opinion if i spotted that fish on a bed i would defentily call someone and have them video tape me catching it so their would be no doubts we are talking about a million dollar fish here and i defentily would of found someway to keep that fish alive till dfg could arrive just my thoughts.....


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