DAiwa Steez vs G.loomis GLX

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:00 am

Anyone have the Steez spinning rods if so how do they match up sensitivity-wise and qualitywise to loomis glx.

biteme · Post by **biteme** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:34 pm

I have the spinning reel and its second to none!

Alex M. · Post by **Alex M.** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:45 pm

Hey....Anything is better than shimano

201Pro · Post by **201Pro** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:04 pm

buddy brown wrote:Anyone have the Steez spinning rods if so how do they match up sensitivity-wise and qualitywise to loomis glx.

Dude, if you fished with a Steez spinning rod, you will not fish any other. I was a IMX/GLX lover till I discover the Steez ... since, I've sold all of my Loomis rods and now have a collection of Steez ...

I'm not exaggerating when I say that I had to re-learn how to fish after fishing with the Steez for the first time. I was setting the hook on every little weed, twig, or pebble ... was feeling things that I've NEVER felt before!!

The 7' ML SVF graphite is more than great. Actually, more than a step above the IMX/GLX graphite ... but that 6'8" Compile-X is ... AWESOME.

DAN · Post by **DAN** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:10 pm

Weight Sensitivity and Quality your leaving out the best option in that class of rod the Phenix Spinning Series.

Check them out at many of your local dealers, Bass Tackle Depot/Oroville Outdoors/Delta Outdoors, Tackle It, Gun Fishing and Other Stuff. Hi's Tackle Box, Clear Lake Bait and Tackle, Bait Barn and of course for a sneak peek, Click on the Phenix ad on this forum.
Thanks

Jim Moulton · Post by **Jim Moulton** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:31 pm

Nice thread high jack there DAN!
I have both and like them both. I prefer the GLX in most applications as the Steez is a little softer than I like. You really need to try them both as every fishermen has thier own preference. Jim

201Pro · Post by **201Pro** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:32 pm

DAN wrote:Weight Sensitivity and Quality your leaving out the best option in that class of rod the Phenix Spinning Series. ...

Dude, the Phenix rods are no better (IF THAT) than the Loomis IMX/GLX ...

DAN · Post by **DAN** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:43 pm

Not Trying to Hijack Jim, But when you compare all three, Weight, Quality, Components and price Phenix is a good choice. Saving over a hundred bucks in todays economy is pretty much always a good thing.

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:50 pm

201Pro wrote:Dude, the Phenix rods are no better (IF THAT) than the Loomis IMX/GLX ...

Dude, I'm pretty sure the Loomis is not close to the Phenix. I am using Pryor rods that are built on the Phenix blanks and they are WAY better than the GLX. Loomis is not the company of years past.

Rod Wynn · Post by **Rod Wynn** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:31 pm

DAN wrote:when you compare all three, Weight, Quality, Components and price Phenix is a good choice..

100% Accurate

Sinjin Kim · Post by **Sinjin Kim** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 11:19 pm

G. Loomis = CRAP! (just my opinion after breaking countless rods and seeing others break their rods - all during a hookset).

Most are not spined properly and for what they are worth, they are way over priced. Just a name and hype.

Andy Lippert · Post by **Andy Lippert** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:06 am

G. Loomis = crap? Are you kidding me? I can't even count how many Loomis rods I've used to date and NEVER had one snap for any other reason than slamming it into my car door. Yesterday I wanted to have a little fun so I took one my flippin' sticks out off the San Diego coast and caught 50-60 barracuda throwing 4 ounce baits, no problem.

Whenever you start knockin' Loomis think about how they're one of the ONLY rod companies who STILL haven't (even in these "hard" times) sold out to the chinese for their manufacturing. What's funny is that most other rods are made for less than pennies on the dollar by a machine in China and that's why you get such a great price. I for one try my hardest to buy American and don't mind paying a few extra bucks for doing just that. You also have to factor in Loomis' 50 dollars no-questions-asked expiditer program for the entire life of the rod.

All in all you can't sanely claim that Loomis is crap. If you keep snappping the rods maybe it's time to start caring for them a little more when they're not in use? JMHO

Andy

biteme · Post by **biteme** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:07 am

This site had become too biased because of guys being sponsored ect.

BigBoy · Post by **BigBoy** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:35 am

biteme wrote:This site had become too biased because of guys being sponsored ect.

+++++++1 Exactly too many biased opinions based on sponsorship. People should clearly denoted they're sponsored by the company if they respond to a thread, also this site should stop hijacking. If someone asks about Steez vs. Glx the thread should stay on topic.

GLX are insanely sensitive for that matter and the new versions are a little bit more sensitive. Steez might be a lighter rod and has a newer design. don't think you'd go wrong with either.

Chris N · Post by **Chris N** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 4:00 pm

Andy Lippert wrote:G. Loomis = crap? Are you kidding me?

What he said-

I haven't fished the Steez, but the GLX rods are still sick, no complaints here. If you can't feel what you need to with a GLX, take up bowling. (no disrespect to bowling, good times!)

I wish Shimano still made the Calcuttas up there in Washington, love those CL820XFA sticks too.

RangerDude · Post by **RangerDude** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:59 pm

BigBoy wrote:
biteme wrote:This site had become too biased because of guys being sponsored ect.
+++++++1 Exactly too many biased opinions based on sponsorship. People should clearly denoted they're sponsored by the company if they respond to a thread, also this site should stop hijacking. If someone asks about Steez vs. Glx the thread should stay on topic.

GLX are insanely sensitive for that matter and the new versions are a little bit more sensitive. Steez might be a lighter rod and has a newer design. don't think you'd go wrong with either.

Thank you for saying it........ They are always trying to push their rods and put down their competition. Give it a rest, the original post was clear steez vs glx. As far as the sponsored phenix rod guys go, your trying too damn hard to sell your mediocre rods

Sinjin Kim · Post by **Sinjin Kim** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:34 pm

Sorry if my comments offended you adamant G. Loomis lovers. Let me get my violin and play a lullaby for ya'll.

I am not affiliated with any rod company, therefore it is safe to say my comments are not biased. Rather my comments reflect what I've experienced and witnessed throughout the years.

If you are happy with G. Loomis rods, then that is great but like I said once again, this is simply my opinion.

As for OEM products made in China, my thoughts regarding this debate is simple:

If oversea countries can produce equal or better quality products for for equal or less price, then I as a consumer will have no problem purchasing non-American made products. I am proud to me an American and am a veteran of the Navy (8 years) but not moronic when it comes to American pride. Am I such a proud American that I will trade in my Japanese car for a GM vehicle and trade in my Korean and Japanese made electronics for American made brands?

Catching a bunch of 'cudas on the iron is great. 20+ years ago, I remember using my Master combo (yellow rod/black reel) and using a SEA STRIKE iron (lol) and catching barracuda and sand bass all summer long.

By the way, I just checked the GL website and the prices of their rods have FALLEN incredibly!!! Probably because their weren't selling well enough at that ridiculous price because consumers began getting smarter and rod manufacturers began building better quality at a lesser retail price.

Someone please tell me that G. Loomis rods are spined properly and that their quality control is impeccable.

Rods that are NOT SPINED properly tend to BREAK. Simple as that. Go to your tackle shop and grab G. Loomis rods and check to see if they are spined properly. I bet 60-70% of them are completely misaligned.

G. Loomis = Sclerosis Rods

*By the way, my comments are not personal. Just sharing my opinion and having a couple laughs at the same time. Good night and have a great work week!

fish_food · Post by **fish_food** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:47 pm

Andy Lippert wrote:Whenever you start knockin' Loomis think about how they're one of the ONLY rod companies who STILL haven't (even in these "hard" times) sold out to the chinese for their manufacturing.

The G. Loomis company was sold to the Japanese 10+ years ago. By keeping rod production in the US, the Japanese save on labor costs. American labor is cheaper. Loomis had rods that were made in Canada for a while--I don't know how expensive Canuck labor is though.

(Not a Loomis basher by the way--I still have over a dozen of 'em)

201Pro · Post by **201Pro** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:41 am

Chris N wrote:...I haven't fished the Steez, but the GLX rods are still sick, no complaints here. If you can't feel what you need to with a GLX, take up bowling. (no disrespect to bowling, good times!) ...

Due to recent posts, I hesitated to reply again. While many people have owned one, but not the other. I am probably one of a few here who has own and sold BOTH rods in question. ... But let me just say first that the only sponsor I have is my own retirement fund!

That said, for a long time I had been a HUGE Loomis fan. I've own, you name it, from IMX MBR783/784/83/844, SJR721/722/781/782/783, PR8400S. I've had GLX in SJR721/783 & BCR803/804/874, Dropshot rods in DSR820S/822S ... there's probably a couple I've forgotten. I have discovered the difference between the GLX and IMX is not so significant to be able to justify the near 50% difference in their prices ... I say that because I had own both and have had personal extended fishing experiences with both types of grahites. That's the main reason that I had own more IMX than GLX rods.

But over the years, I bought and sold ALL of G.Loomis rods after I discovered the Steez.

I will say this ... the MBR/SJR series of IMX/GLX rods still is some of the most sensitive rods out there. BUT ... the new BCR GLX series simply don't live up to their heritage.

To me, fishing is a very personal experience. What I like, what you like, what I think is sensitive or not is a relative factor. But just this past month. I had a SJR781S IMX (which I had loved and one of my last Loomis rods I still own because I just loved that rod) and a Steez 6'8" Compile-X fished side by side for two full weekends. After which, I sold my beloved 781 and bought two more of the Steez rods. You can read what you want into that. But that's my experience.

In the same vein, I introduced the Steez 7' SVF spinning rod to my friend who had been using the SJR721 GLX rod a little over a year ago. At the end of the day, he sold his GLX rods and bought two of the Steez's ...

Another friend, whom I had fished with for nearly 20 years, I introduced the 7'1" Compile-X and Steez flipping stick to ... who also had been a huge fan of the MBR IMX family ... now owns several 7'1" and 8' Compile-X rods.

Regarding the Steez rods, yes they are light ... some are not all that well balanced. But ... I will tell you this. If you fish a day with one of them, you'll likely not ever go back. Unfortunately, there are no loaner programs with them. So you'll have to know someone who owns one and ask for a try out. Otherwise, I understand that it's a leap of faith ... but ... I'd say you'll very likely be NOT disappointed. BUT ... this is just IMHO!!

Andy Lippert · Post by **Andy Lippert** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:59 am

You are correct. Shimano bought Loomis in '96, but all you did was solidify my point. Eventhough the Japanese own the company the company resides here in the United States, employing American workers, who spend their salaries in the American economy and pay taxes that contribute to the health and welfare of America (well atleast that's where our money is theoretically supposed to go).

but not moronic when it comes to American pride

I don't consider myself a moron for buying American, I consider myself patriotic. Thank you though for implying such a positive classification of who I am based on my purchasing habits. =) Outsourcing and overseas labor are a HUGE reason as to why we are where we are as a nation today (in the dumps) so continue on your path of sending your money elsewhere, one person won't make a difference anyway, right?

Back on topic, I enjoy fishing loomis, and have never had a chance to try a Steez. Maybe after I snap my first Loomis I will, but for now I'm happy with being a "moron".

Andy

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:43 am

Look what you started Buddy.

This place is comedy.

Jeff C. · Post by **Jeff C.** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:04 am

Sinjin Kim wrote:
By the way, I just checked the GL website and the prices of their rods have FALLEN incredibly!!! Probably because their weren't selling well enough at that ridiculous price because consumers began getting smarter and rod manufacturers began building better quality at a lesser retail price.

What rods are you talking about? I just checked the website and don't see any price reductions, at least on the GLX rods.

I love my GLX, I just wish Loomis would get with the times and build a split grip. Also, I like the new options in handle material besides cork being offered by other manufacturers.

BigBoy · Post by **BigBoy** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:28 am

Andy Lippert wrote:You are correct. Shimano bought Loomis in '96, but all you did was solidify my point. Eventhough the Japanese own the company the company resides here in the United States, employing American workers, who spend their salaries in the American economy and pay taxes that contribute to the health and welfare of America (well atleast that's where our money is theoretically supposed to go).

My understanding is Gloomis is run as a separate entity entirely and it's still difficult (not impossible) to find Gloomis rods within the local Japan market.

fish_food · Post by **fish_food** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:38 am

BigBoy wrote:My understanding is Gloomis is run as a separate entity entirely and it's still difficult (not impossible) to find Gloomis rods within the local Japan market.

Sure, Shimano American Corporation, the cycling divisions and all the rest of their MANY international subsidiaries are separate entities. They all report their earnings to the parent corp though--the annual reports and quarterly financial results for Shimano Group are available online and you can see how the various subsidiaries are doing, including G. Loomis.

Loomis produced export rods for the Japanese and European markets some time ago. Neat rods for the time.

Alex M. · Post by **Alex M.** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:43 am

some guy wrote:Look what you started Buddy.

This place is comedy.

Fishing rods are for wussies! GO NOODLING !!!!

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:28 am

some guy wrote:Look what you started Buddy.

This place is comedy.

I luv my glx's and would not ever get rid of them. I just had an opportunity to get the 7-1 steez spinning at half price and was hoping that it was at least as sensitive as the glx. I've only broke one loomis and yes it was not splined correctly but they replaced it as a warranty issue with one that was. As far as the phenix goes I have 3 of the oldschool boron rods and luv them as well. G.loomis employs american workers and tax revenue stays in the US. If they were made by RAstafarians in Jamaica I'd still buy them. All about the quality.

Alex M. · Post by **Alex M.** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:35 pm

HEY....Whatchya got against Rastafarians from Jamaica?

buddy brown · Post by **buddy brown** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:39 pm

I ain't got no problems wit dem rastas. jah rastafari

programgeeks · Post by **programgeeks** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:35 pm

I, too, wish G-Loomis would use other materials for the handle than cork, but there is no way in heck Daiwa can beat Loomis' warranty.

I just purchased a Steez but after reading their warranty, I wish I hadn't. For such an expensive product, Daiwa's warranty is crap.

sker13 · Post by **sker13** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:22 pm

I will add to the comedy. I have owned 3 GLX's and 2 IMX's never had a problem. I like a stiff tip (thats what she said)

And these rods fit my style of finesse fishing. 783 glx spinning rod is one of the best all around plastic and light jig/hula grub rods ever made end of story. It also throws a mean fluke! I cannot be convinced otherwise.

Oh and I forgot to mention it has the power to land a 20+ lb carp after a short fight! Not BS twice in one day.

sker13 · Post by **sker13** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 3:28 pm

buddy brown wrote:I ain't got no problems wit dem rastas. jah rastafari

Yes I......I and I guan mosh it up!....Seen?

Triton Mike · Post by **Triton Mike** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:30 pm

Andy Lippert wrote:G. Loomis = crap? Are you kidding me? I can't even count how many Loomis rods I've used to date and NEVER had one snap for any other reason than slamming it into my car door. Yesterday I wanted to have a little fun so I took one my flippin' sticks out off the San Diego coast and caught 50-60 barracuda throwing 4 ounce baits, no problem.

Whenever you start knockin' Loomis think about how they're one of the ONLY rod companies who STILL haven't (even in these "hard" times) sold out to the chinese for their manufacturing. What's funny is that most other rods are made for less than pennies on the dollar by a machine in China and that's why you get such a great price. I for one try my hardest to buy American and don't mind paying a few extra bucks for doing just that. You also have to factor in Loomis' 50 dollars no-questions-asked expiditer program for the entire life of the rod.

All in all you can't sanely claim that Loomis is crap. If you keep snappping the rods maybe it's time to start caring for them a little more when they're not in use? JMHO

Andy

Andy, Take a wild guess why Loomis isn't shipping rods right now.... Moving to China... All my dealers shelves are empty. Bass Pro is Empty..... Atleast thats the strong rumor that I am hearing. I could be wrong tho but that is what dealers are telling me... Anyone else know?

Mike

TonyL · Post by **TonyL** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:56 pm

Andy Lippert wrote:You are correct. Shimano bought Loomis in '96, but all you did was solidify my point. Eventhough the Japanese own the company the company resides here in the United States, employing American workers, who spend their salaries in the American economy and pay taxes that contribute to the health and welfare of America (well atleast that's where our money is theoretically supposed to go).

but not moronic when it comes to American pride
I don't consider myself a moron for buying American, I consider myself patriotic. Thank you though for implying such a positive classification of who I am based on my purchasing habits. =) Outsourcing and overseas labor are a HUGE reason as to why we are where we are as a nation today (in the dumps) so continue on your path of sending your money elsewhere, one person won't make a difference anyway, right?

Andy

YYEEAAAHHHH !!!!!

loomis29 · Post by **loomis29** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:28 am

Andy[/quote]

Andy, Take a wild guess why Loomis isn't shipping rods right now.... Moving to China... All my dealers shelves are empty. Bass Pro is Empty..... Atleast thats the strong rumor that I am hearing. I could be wrong tho but that is what dealers are telling me... Anyone else know?

Mike[/quote]

I doubt they are moving to China. They have been a customer of mine for over 6 years, and very recently purchased $6000 worth of various Online HR Compliance Training courses.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:34 am

My buddy just got 10 rods in the mail yesterday that he sent in for warranty work. I think it took about 4 weeks.

Triton..

Why would they move to China when they just spent a TON of money making all of their ovens here compliant with OSHA at the beginning of this year?

What leads you to believe China?

Andy Lippert · Post by **Andy Lippert** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:47 am

They had oven problems...As a member of their Pro-Staff, I can say with certainty that this is the reason for the "bare shelves" as you claim. The pro-staff hasn't been able to order rods for quite some time now, due to the limited rod-making because customers come first. These issues have been resolved, and Loomis is back up and running full-bore in Woodland, Washington...You oughta find out a little more information before making a claim such as "they're moving to China".

Andy Lippert

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:53 am

Andy Lippert wrote:They had oven problems...As a member of their Pro-Staff, I can say with certainty that this is the reason for the "bare shelves" as you claim. The pro-staff hasn't been able to order rods for quite some time now, due to the limited rod-making because customers come first. These issues have been resolved, and Loomis is back up and running full-bore in Woodland, Washington...You oughta find out a little more information before making a claim such as "they're moving to China".

Andy Lippert

+1

some people crack me up.

Triton Mike · Post by **Triton Mike** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:19 am

Andy Lippert wrote:They had oven problems...As a member of their Pro-Staff, I can say with certainty that this is the reason for the "bare shelves" as you claim. The pro-staff hasn't been able to order rods for quite some time now, due to the limited rod-making because customers come first. These issues have been resolved, and Loomis is back up and running full-bore in Woodland, Washington...You oughta find out a little more information before making a claim such as "they're moving to China".

Andy Lippert

Lippert, Read my post again. A dealer told me this and it is what they have been told (namely by two different G Loomis dealers)?? I also said RUMOR (I don't believe everything I hear until I see an official statement thats why I said RUMOR) and I also asked if anyone else knew this to be true?? I never made a claim bud. Sorry your a little antsy and your oven is broke. Hopefully you'll be able to stop PMSing soon and get some rods ordered.

Mike

Andy Lippert · Post by **Andy Lippert** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:36 am

I'm going to compare what you said:

Andy, Take a wild guess why Loomis isn't shipping rods right now.... Moving to China... All my dealers shelves are empty

to a statement that is said quite often: "With all due respect" before following it up with something like, "Go f yourself or you're the shi**iest boss I've ever had".

Just cause you mention something like...."Uhhhh....this is what I uhhhh...heard from other uhhh people," or "with all due respect" doesn't make it bueno, dude! I think every reader can see that for themselves, so I'll cut it off here.

Oh, and do you have any midol by chance? These cramps are killin' me!

Andy

Triton Mike · Post by **Triton Mike** » Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:49 am

Andy, Why don't we see what unfolds with G Loomis in the next 364 days about these so called rumors.. If I'm right you owe me an open apology. If I'm wrong I'll do the same. Fair enough?? BTW "Uhhh" in the south is the same as "Like dude" in California terms LOL. Good luck with the ovens

Mike

aaronyun · Post by **aaronyun** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:43 pm

Let me start by saying I am not sponsored by G loomis but I wish I was.LOL I just can't get enough of that GLXs.
80% of my rods are GLX. I even use GLX for spinnerbaits.
Yes, they do break easy but you can always get it replaced with lifetime warranty. I recently broke my CR723 GLX and got it replaced. It only took a week to get a new rod.
From the experience I had with GLX for many years, I dare to say GLX is THE most sensitive blank out there period. I am not sure if my hands are more sensitive than others but I can literally feel the current with GLX. For those who don't feel the difference between IMX and GLX, gotta get rid of callus off their hands.
I personally think all Japanese high-end rods are over priced. They may look fancy to anglers, but do bass look at your rod when they bite? Besides the price, Daiwa doesn't offer any warranty on steez like G loomis does on GLX.
I admit GLX are vulnerable to breakage, but I think having superb sensitivity is like having a double edge sword. You just have to take good care of the rods. If it fails, you are always backed up with the warranty. For lifetime.

Beach Steve Biechman · Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:03 am

If all you patriots would really be patriotic and buy American I would be selling a lot more rods. Loomis IMX, sometimes are good and sometimes are not. Loomis GLX are fantastic but the bad news is they will not be selling or replacing blanks after this year.
Tom Pryor makes good rods. The first custom rod he owned was one of my swimbait rods. He won enough money with it the first time he used it to more than pay for it.

Beach

JohnMarino · Post by **JohnMarino** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:39 pm

Every single Rod in my boat is a Gloomis except for one... And I gotta say The Steez spining rod is SICK!! I got one paired with shimano stella 1000 and its the ultimate finesse rod. Dropshotting with braid and fluorocarbon liter with tungsten weights you will feel things you never felt before with a rod. AMAZING.

Buy a Steez it wont be disappointing.

Delta is beast · Post by **Delta is beast** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:42 am

loomis do break a lot but they have lifetime warranty. steez has one year so i would have to go with loomis because both are great rods

Rods and Reels · Post by **Rods and Reels** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:52 am

Do you still have the Loomis SJR 722 IMX for sale? If so, I'm interested. Please email me at dweb1951@gmail.com.

Thanks,
Dan

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:05 pm

I do not have a dog in this hunt, my rods are custom made and at the price point of the subject rods may be your best choice.
Checking a rod spline alignment to the guides and reel seat is easy and something everyone serious angler should learn to do.
While at the recent Fred Hall show I was surprised how many displayed rods were not splined properly, about half torque over to one side. Every G. Loomis E6X on display that I checked were bad. The Phenix rods were marginal, some OK, some not. The rods that I was surprised with are 13 Omen, the rods on display werec100% splined properly that I picked up. Why would any rod co put out mis splined rods at a show?
Tom

Dave Wilson · Post by **Dave Wilson** » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:02 am

I have both a steez, and a glx spinning rod. The GLX is a new model with a split grip of cork, and the steez is a 2 year old model with hypalon rubber grip. Quality is equal I think. I like the GLX better because, unlike many others in this post, I hate rubber grips. I don't use rubber on ocean rods either. As far as quality construction, I'll admit some of my Loomis rods are a bit unfinished in detail- like my newest one has the tip on crooked. As far as sensitivity, I use almost exclusively NRX rods, but with my one GLX spin rod, I see little,if any, difference with my Steez. I almost must admit, I suck at using spinning rods. Hope this is helpful!

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