Tackletour flouro comparison

[mark poulson]

Check out the Northern board. Great thread, including a link to a test of flourocarbon lines.

[DeltaBound]

so the question is:

Did anyone change their brand due to this comparison test?

Sponsored individuals excluded, you get your line free so you don't count

[vinnybass]

They confirmed what I already knew, XPS is good line & the price is right.

[DeltaBound]

I agree, vinny. I'll be buying some this weekend in Vegas. I was buying sunline but I went broke.

[DAKINE198]

Now I think I prefer P-line over Seaguar. Going to try out Halo
for myself.

[cLanderman]

I have used Seagaur on my go to reels, and XPS on the reels I rarely use, after this I think I will just use XPS. Every couple months BassPro has a sale where the XPS in 6-12lb is 8.99-9.99 so it is hard to justify spending 15-18 a spool.

[Dennis S]

What do u guys think about Gamma line?

[Ray L.]

You do know the comparison is not done yet.
Take notes and then maybe you will find a real winner.
Therer are many things to look at yet. You have only seen part 1.

[Ray L.]

*NM*

[onthefly]

It looks like the (Toray vs. Sunline ) thing, the Toray did a bit better then the Sunline

[mark poulson]

I'm looking forward the stretch comparisons, and to finding out where the different lines are made.

[DAKINE198]

How would you measure line stretch? By inches per pound of tension.

[tunaman]

As I posted over in that thread, so far it doesn't account for recovery... all line stretches, but mono recovers while flourocarbon and braid don't as much. I think that, with flourocarbon, the most important strength factors would be determined after being stretched, given that it doesn't rebound much, as that is probably a very common state for most real-world fishing situations.

[Nicholas H.]

OnTheFly, you tell me your interpretation of where "Toray did a bit better then the Sunline". I'd like to hear EXACTLY why and how you have come to this conclusion.

[onthefly]

Sunline 14lb .32 Dia.
Toray 14lb .32 Dia

Abrasion test
Suneline 0% over the standad
Toray 47% over the standad

Tensile test
They did the same

Strenght
They did the same

Knot strenght
Sunline broke at 11.0lb - 78.7% of line test
Toray broke at 13.0lb - 93.2% of line test


The test results look to me like the Toray did better then the Sunline.

[mark poulson]

I actually stretch my flouro after I spool it, before I fish with it. And again after I've used it for a couple of trips. Stretching it takes out the memory, and it handles better right away, instead of having to wait for it to "break in". Once the initial stretching takes place, it stretches much less. Almost like it takes the longer, stretched length as a permanent setting. It still has some stretch, but much less, after it's first stretching.
I have noticed that flouro "whites up" after it's been used a while. I assumed that was scratching from the guides, but that's another thing I'd love to see the next round of comparisons look at.
I think Dennis mentioned something about that.

[Nicholas H.]

OnTheFly, thanks for your reply. Check with Cal on that Abrasion test. Make sure that's actually where it tested

As far as their knot test goes, hmm... Let me just ask you this. Would you EVER tie a palomar knot on Toray with $100,000 on the line? Better yet, would you let SOMEONE ELSE in another room tie a palomar knot on your line? The point I'm trying to make is that with a Palomar knot (which cuts into itself much easier) on flouro you will get "test results" ALL OVER THE BOARD. While it is great to see a test done on fluoros, let's wait until the entire testing is done before anyone passes judgement on any line. As I have stated in my previous thread, there are SEVERAL things that "red flag" this test for me, but I will wait for the entire results to be given before I pass any judgement.

[onthefly]

I think you're the Sunline rep, if you agreed to the results, it would be bad for Business



I think the BIG winner here was Bass Pro Shops (XPS) in the bang for the buck test, it was right up there with Toray and Sunline for way less money

[Schneider Fishing]

I would have liked to have seen how the regular vanish did in the results. I also hope they trey a couple of different knots. Maybe the double San Diego Knot for one. Isn't that the knot that Aron Martens uses?

[Nicholas H.]

Even IF BPS XPS tested (so far at least) equal to the Sunline and Toray ( I simply cannot believe I'm saying that LOL!!!), I have one word for you, LONGEVITY. Hopefully that will be in another part of TT results. We will just have to wait and see.

[Nicholas H.]

Aaron does in fact use the San Diego Jam knot for the sole reason that it does NOT cut into itself. It cinches up against itself.

[onthefly]

I think you get what you pay for, The Sunline and the Toray are great lines, and looking at the BPS (XPS) FC. there are some good value FC lines also.

Nicholas, my apoligies
you to have a great product.


Cecil

[Darkman]

I do my own comparisons, all of them on the water.
I found these are so far my favorits, Pline, Sugoi,BPS and Triple fish

I only go by what I experiance I know that triple fish did so so
but It works great for me same as all the others.

one thing this test wont change for me is the bottom line($)
I love sugoi but cant afford to use it, for that fact any line that does not fit into my budget.

use what works for you, if these test dont rub you right, so what
if you catch fish on piss warm chango then by all means keep catching your fish

[Sinjin Kim]

I actually stretch my flouro after I spool it, before I fish with it. And again after I've used it for a couple of trips. Stretching it takes out the memory, and it handles better right away, instead of having to wait for it to "break in". Once the initial stretching takes place, it stretches much less. Almost like it takes the longer, stretched length as a permanent setting. It still has some stretch, but much less, after it's first stretching.
I have noticed that flouro "whites up" after it's been used a while. I assumed that was scratching from the guides, but that's another thing I'd love to see the next round of comparisons look at.
I think Dennis mentioned something about that.

This is the first I've heard of someone stretching out their line. From my experience, I feel if the "stretchy" characteristic of a certain line is diminished, it will not be as strong as its suggested rating.

For instance, I've used P-Line CXX for many of my saltwater trips. 25 or 30# CXX was always certain to boat a 30-40# class yellowtail or tuna. However, after a few fish and some long runs, the line became weak and was no better than the K-Mart special (the blue stuff I onced used a kid). I strongly believe the CXX began to break fish after fish because its "stretchy" characteristic was all used up.

Moreover, if a flurocarbon line has very little stretch, I think the strength of the knot is at jeopardy during strong hook-sets.

Just a thought.