Attn Forum Moderators

[TTCal]

If a general rod question is asked please respond in general terms. If folks are looking for something more specific or product recommendations then it's best we send them to tackletour.com, a place that has tons of information listed so that a person could easily go over, click on Rods and get tons of information.

Oh gee, thanks sTony... send all those heated discussions our way to deal with why don't you?

[sTony]

I wasn't suggesting they jump into your forums anymore then they do already, But there are so many articles and product reviews over on that site about this sort of stuff.

And just about anyone can go into any of the fine tackle stores that advertise here and figure out first hand which rod feels best to them and in a wide array of price ranges.

I'm sick and tired of the Powell Vs Dobyns stuff, as I'm sure they are as well, and likely a great many readers.

I suggested tackletour.com because that's where I go look at product reviews online.

sTony

[bassindon69]

Look out! Dad is taking his belt off.

But he did it too..........


I like it! Taking control, Thats my boy!! Oh wait, am I younger?

Don.

[TTCal]

I was just jokin' around Tony. You guys do a great job moderating this forum. I come here to escape ours.

And we appreciate the support. I'm convinced that even a good number of our forum members aren't aware of the product reviews based on the questions we get on our message board!

[Splash]

I am glad to see this put in place. Even though I was involved in the last one it really gets old seeing this everytime you visit a forum. I hope TTCAL and the Tackle Tour staff puts the same policy in place.

[sTony]

See here's what you do, go on over to tackletour.com and look under CONTENTS... then click the topic you'd like to research, in this case RODS... then you'll see there's a ton of stuff right there at your fingertips dating back to product review on rods from 2001 to present.

Hope that helps our guys and gals use your site Cal, you can pass that on in your forums if you like

sTony

[TTCal]

See here's what you do, go on over to tackletour.com and look under CONTENTS... then click the topic you'd like to research, in this case RODS... then you'll see there's a ton of stuff right there at your fingertips dating back to product review on rods from 2001 to present.

Hope that helps our guys and gals use your site Cal, you can pass that on in your forums if you like

sTony

Yer such a pal.. thanks man, but you forgot the photo illustrations

[TTCal]

I hope TTCAL and the Tackle Tour staff puts the same policy in place.

Sure.. then what would you do with your time Splash? Gotta make you earn your stripes afterall ...

[Splash]

You know me, always figuring a way to make my job easier! Besides, I'd like to get in on some other threads once in a while! It's always easy to pick on BDO but I'd like to tackle a more capable person in the ways of wit, like maybe kb, but he always starts using words where I have to get out the dictionary and the moment has passed before I even figure out if he insulted me or paid me a compliment! LOL

[StockOption]

What's next after this? No specifics or direct compairsons of line, lures or reels here?

In my opinion this is heavy handed and clearly takes on a much deeper censorship role. Of course this is your perogative and I will abide by this policy, it just seems a bit over the top and undoubtedly will be extremely difficult to enforce in a fair manner.

[Brian]

So, How bout them cowboys?

[Splash]

How about them Texans! Cowboys suck! Take that BDO........

[TritonBrent]

So, How bout them cowboys?

lmao!

[lucas boden]

megabass?

[jsoregon]

I personally think Ugly Sticks are the way to go. My wife put mine in the trash compactor! I took it out 5 mins laters and went fishing and landed a 30lb catfish.

My Cherrywood broke every time I tried that. I had 10,312 Cherrywoods and replaced every one with Ugly Sticks. The 1 day or 1 hour over the fence replacement warrentee was my deciding factor guys.

Just my 2 cents though boys...I am an Ugly Stick national lampoons staffer...never been a secret.

I just tell it as it is boys...

(lol...its a joke b/c thats what we're starting to sound like.)

(Good rule Tony. No issues here.)

[Chris B.]

I'm late with my comment but here it is: it is this kind of content censorship (that's what it is, not a "standard" as is being suggested) that will keep this site from reaching it's potential.

If Powell and Dobyns are duking it out in the bass fishing marketplace for top dog status, forums like this are a great way to get opinions from real fishermen. In other words, opinions from real users who are not trying to sell anything.

As a relative newcomer, it is this kind of feedback and sharing of knowledge that really helps.

I suggest you direct your censorship focus to those occasional offensive-language posts and let member's interests direct where the content goes.

[Vince E]

I can understand not allowing non-paying advertisement and I can understand trying to keep it mostly rated G around here. I can even understand limiting excessively nasty personal attacks.

But

What your doing here , comrade, is telling people what opinions they are allowed to express even if they don't violate any of the above rules. What's next?

Does anybody know where Bassbones is hanging out these days because I think I just lost my taste for this site?

[jacob]

There's to be no more Powell Vs. Dobyns, Powell Or Dobyns or whatever threads in the forums anymore.

There are certainly more lines of rods out there so why these two keeping getting bound together in posts in this forum has gotten well beyond the point of being welcome.

Monavie sales must be down for the last two months,prolly due ta the increasing gas prices..they'll come back
these little power trip rants are killing this place dude. You need us just like we need this place for the latest and greatest info. Been a member since the mid 1990s and your comments are getting pretty obserd.

[Iafrate94505]

Does anybody know where Bassbones is hanging out these days because I think I just lost my taste for this site?

Yep, ya got to get JUMPED in, sorry about your luck.

I like discussing things with no sponsor influence. Just Basser to Basser.

You like this, I like that...I buy this, you buy that....your sponsor tells you your opinion, I have my own un-sponsored opinion.

Anyone really have both Rods and Can Honestly Post, a reply that isn't Jaded ? Or manufactured ?

I for one have Fished Both rods side by side, bait for bait. There for I choose what I liked with an educated decision, part in which is from comments and or thoughts found here or the L.L.

If I can't decide what model/brands will fit me needs I buy both.
Then run them, Selling a used rod isnt that hard, the loss is the cost of doing business and dialing in 'my' tool's.


I wont drink the Kool AID.....

[BassCatPuma]

Good job Tony, It's about time this BS stoped. Everytime it is brought up it turns into a Pro Staff Thread.

[Splash]

Good job Tony, It's about time this BS stoped. Everytime it is brought up it turns into a Pro Staff Thread.

I don't know why you guys keep saying this crap. The dirty remarks were coming from members that weren't on either staff. Or at least not admitting it. They certainly aren't on ours.

[Mort]

If a person does not like a thread, they do not have to read it, post on it, or rip on someone for adding their opinion. If the thread topic has been beat like a dead horse, and no one has any interest in it, then it will simply disappear to page 2, 3, etc... But some threads are going to keep coming up because peoples opinion's change or new people want to know about something. I am sure most questions have been answered somewhere on this site before, but for some of us who finally decide to go out and buy a high end rod (and we want to make sure we are getting the most bang for our buck) it is nice to be reassured by our fellow anglers that it is worth it and we are going to be happy. I am glad I read the latest "soon to be banned" thread, it helped me make a decision, and so that my post will not be deleted I will not mention which Powell rod I bought...oops.

If this site wants to lose visitors then I say deleted and "ban" posts that you do not like, otherwise let all of us ask the questions and if no one wants to comment on it, then it will die on its own.

Mort


Chuck Norris is the reason why Waldo is hiding.

[Tobe]

If Powell and Dobyns are duking it out in the bass fishing marketplace for top dog status, forums like this are a great way to get opinions from real fishermen. In other words, opinions from real users who are not trying to sell anything.

As a relative newcomer, it is this kind of feedback and sharing of knowledge that really helps.

I am sure most questions have been answered somewhere on this site before, but for some of us who finally decide to go out and buy a high end rod (and we want to make sure we are getting the most bang for our buck) it is nice to be reassured by our fellow anglers that it is worth it and we are going to be happy. Mort


.

Good points and I could not agree more however, some people get obstructive with negative comments and spoil it for everyone.

I look at Tony’s decision from a business standpoint and would do the same.

As far as opinions go, they range from people that fish Future Pro to FLW, hell some might not fish at all.

Without real names to stand by their statements to make them accountable, we will never know who is feeding us a line of crap and who isn't and let me tell ya, it gets deep in here sometimes.

I find nothing wrong with any pro staff giving positive opinions about products but the out of control and irresponsible attacks ruin it.

What I would like to see is the post itself deleted so the thread could live on.

Mike Tobey

[sTony]

What's next after this? No specifics or direct compairsons of line, lures or reels here?

In my opinion this is heavy handed and clearly takes on a much deeper censorship role. Of course this is your perogative and I will abide by this policy, it just seems a bit over the top and undoubtedly will be extremely difficult to enforce in a fair manner.

You're probably right Stocks. We're pretty much damned if we do and damned if we don't.

sTony

[kopper_bass]

So sTony,
If you're convinced that your damned if you do or damned if you don't; then why take the restrictive, hard line, scensorship path? why not take the open minded, less restrictive, free path?

If Powell & Dobyns rods have personal issues, then they can deal with them in a court of law, and you can just delete the really bad posts that surely breach a common sense of responsibility. To just outright ban all posts on the topic is surely "over the top" and a path to further destruction.

You need sponsors to help pay the bills. But you also need us users too. Sponsors dont sign on if there are no visitors to this site. Visitors dont sign on with nothing to discuss here. Without both, this site is just a blank page in cyber space.

Your biggest asset on this site "IS" the information that is shared here; both good and bad information. take that away, and you've got much less.


You have all my respect buddy, but i hope you consider my .02

Kopper_Bass

[sTony]

No more Powell Vs. Dobyns, Powell Or Dobyns or whatever threads in the forums anymore.

This is all I'm trying to say. No more, please. Compare anything you want but please stay away from making this comparison. It's more for personal reasons then anything else and stuff I just don't want to get deeper into here. I know this isn't going to be something we can easily moderate but every time we have that thread it goes down a path that violates our forum policies.

So please, all I'm asking is that you resist from this one topic or go about in a civil manner.

sTony

[sTony]

I guess maybe less then unexpected is that I am no longer a moderator of any of these forums.

Our moderators have the forum policies to guide them, as I have done, and I'm sure they'll continue to do a great job.

sTony

[Cooch]

I guess maybe less then unexpected is that I am no longer a moderator of any of these forums.
Our moderators have the forum policies to guide them, as I have done, and I'm sure they'll continue to do a great job.
sTony

Hence why he hired me! Thread jacking is a policy violation, hence the deleted posts in this thread that spun off topic! Some of ya just don't git it!

Something to point out, and it has been said in the past we play favorites, in truth, we don't. Neither Powell or Dobyns as of this directive, are sponsors of this site. The nature that this topic of one versus the other, never comes out looking good. It seems like a very simple request to me, you start a thread and git on the topic of one vs the other, it's going to be removed. You wanna come in here and bash one or the other, fine. You wanna come in here and praise one or the other, fine. We're just no longer gonna allow the cage match postings of or readers taking sides in a debate of Powell vs Dobyns rods. Purty easy stuff guys. Time fer lock down!

[sTony]

It was indeed pretty easy stuff but there are a lot of folks that want to protect those that are intent on driving people away from posting in our forums.

I remember a time when Skeet used to use the forum, he got pushed away as have many others. And I'm sure someone will have some cocky answer for why a guy like Skeet shouldn't use forums like this. I don't see it that way. I think it's invaluable that you can have something come up and have Gary Dobyns or Jimmy Reese or Clayton Meyer or Dewayne Bonham or Mike Tuck and so on respond. Same goes for product manufacturers. We've seen a bunch go to lurker status based on the actions of a relative few. I can't tell you how many times I get approached weekly with folks telling me we have a great site but the forums are too loose to even think about posting in. People don't like getting slammed after sharing. We have difficult jobs as moderators. But the truth is we rarely moderate. Ask these guys how many posts they've deleted and you'll find out it likely less then .001 percent of received posts. We've never altered anyone's words or tried to steer people's opinions. We also don't delete posts that are critical of our sponsors. Course we've been accused of doing all the above.

Never the less, I get called so many names and people have made me out to be this huge censor that finally I'm done with it.

sTony

PS - and this doesn't even take into account that all along we've tried to be a place where kids could come in and mingle as well. Sometimes it takes more patience to work with the kids online but it has always been worth it. Wanna grow the sport, that's how, but some users still want to make the place less then appropriate for kids use and that's, well just sad.