what did everyone think about the AC at berryessa

[orob]

Can anyone tell me why the pro's have to fish the same day as am's. How is it possible for one boat to fish pro's and am's. When every other tour the pro's and am's fish on different day's on AC.

[basshunter4u]

This is the exact reason I do not fish for points. If we win or take 6 the place it will take some major changes in series formats for me to fish all the tournys to make a TOC that is not worth driving to it to begin with. Sorry but thats how I feel. I pick and choose tournaments that I want to fish and lately I choose to just trophy fish and scrap the 5 fish format. The new WON bass 1 fish format --- now that might interest me, but thats just my personal oppinion.

DO

[D.B.COOPER]

Heard it turned into a fiasco. Started getting nasty. A lot of people unhappy. Hope they can get it straightened out quick. D.B.COOPER

[Jeff Jewell]

I think I should have forked over the money to play as a pro instead of a Semi..............

[basshunter4u]

I heard the winners on the pro side didnt get 1st place money. That to me spells disaster for any Circit. Fish as a pro take first place and get second place money. Humm just doesnt do it for me. I wonder if anyone else feels the same way. Any coments?

[D.B.COOPER]

Semi- pro got pro money( a lot) from what I heard and that's just wrong. Why do you even bother to have a semi pro then? Something smells funny. Hope M Mendez gets it straightened out quick. $#!^ hit the fan at the awards ceremony. Lots of confusion. D.B.COOPER

[tunaman]

Someone care to elaborate, rather than just hinting inuendo??? Not all of us were at the event, or the awards ceremony, so it would be helpful to understand what the heck is being discussed?

Roger

[Jeff Jewell]

Someone care to elaborate, rather than just hinting inuendo??? Not all of us were at the event, or the awards ceremony, so it would be helpful to understand what the heck is being discussed?

Roger

I fished as a Semi and finished fourth, had I fished as a Pro, from the weights that were called I would have been third with big fish. Much more moola, that's what I was refering to, have no first hand info about anything else...

[Tobey]

The winning semi-pro team was actualy a pro team, they filled out the wrong paper work at sign in and payed semi-pro entry fee. The winning pro team was a semi-pro team who entered on both sides which was approved by the tournament director before the pro season started. There was a problem with the pro side final standings as two of the teams weights got zeroed on the computer causing some confusion about payouts and who finished where. These were honest, although avoidable, mistakes. Teresa's tournaments are usually very well run and go off without a hitch. I hope everyone gives her the chance to make it right.

Ron

[Steve]

Ok, now that we got that all figured out anybody care to post weights and a summary of the day?

[Tobey]

17.5 with a 9lb big fish on the semi side
14.6 on the pro side

[rob916]

Thank you tobey for clearing the air...Even though i have been DQd before, teresa runs a good tournament..I think the main problem was that it was her first tournament running Pro and semi.

[Nick Langlois]

First off congrats for the teams who did well, I really would have liked to catch a 9!!! My only question which i will post for debate, is the ability for a semi pro team to enter both divisions. What do you think?? can a pro-team enter the semi pro side??? is this fair for the rest of the teams in the semi pro division?? your thoughts.
nick

[Brian]

First off congrats for the teams who did well, I really would have liked to catch a 9!!! My only question which i will post for debate, is the ability for a semi pro team to enter both divisions. What do you think?? can a pro-team enter the semi pro side??? is this fair for the rest of the teams in the semi pro division?? your thoughts.
nick

I dont see a problem with a semi pro entering a Pro division. But I dont know if it is right to be able to weigh in the same 5 fish limit for two different tournies. Thats my thoughts anyway.

[The Lone Angler]

they could beat the pros.............they did!.......They won both the semi pro and the pro tournament......in an angler choice event. This has been in the last 5 years. Check the AC results for yourselves.

Phil

[Sean Graf]

This is something I remember from fishing the Federation, if you fished the Delta division for example, and the Motherlode division had a Delta tournament the same day, you could pay entries for BOTH divisions and weigh in 5 fish. Your weight would go towards BOTH divisions.

I don't like this in a Pro / Semi Pro field, let the Pro's fish for theirs and letthe Semi's fish for theirs!

[tunaman]

I suppose if a Semi team feels froggy and wants to pay the bucks for Pro, it is within the rules, but I'd really expect the line to be drawn and the teams have to decide where to enter... not really all that fair to weigh one bag for two tournaments as Brian pointed out, which is is essence what this situation boils down to.

On any given day, may of the Semi guys can beat many of the Pro guys... that's fishing. I agree that the line appears to be pretty blurred between Pro and Semi... not sure if I really support that concept myself.

Roger

[Brian]

Yea Tuna, I mean why not Keep a good Sat tourney limit to weigh in a tourney on Sunday? Anyway I didnt fish either one of them so my opinion doesn't mean much. The guys opinions that had the $$$$$ on the line are the ones that count.

[Teresa]

I want to thank all my guys who came on line and gave me back up. I really try to run a good and honest tournament. I was glad to have had the oppertunity to show that even though I had made errors I took the responsibility and tried to correct the situation to everyones satisfaction.
As for the Semi-Pro, Pro format I will be addressing it with the VP of Region 1 and Mark during this week. I understand that it does not sit well with some teams that a Semi-Pro (a team that could not have one more than $3,000. in any season) could sign up and pay for both a Semi-Pro and Pro team event on the same day. A Pro team on the other hand is not allowed to sign up as a Semi Pro if they have won over the $3,000.
I have redesigned the way that the signups will be conducted to help eleminate any further mistakes in which teams sign up for Semi-Pro vs Pro. I will also be stressing that if you are paying $120. you are signing up as a S/P team. If you pay $220.00 you are signing up as a Pro team.
As for why I have the S/P teams and Pro teams doing a tournament together, I tried to find a tournament director to run the Pro Team circuit on Berryessa. I was not able to find a director and I was receiving alot of request to have a circuit. I decided to address the issue with my S/P circuit. The only way we were going to be able to have a Pro circuit was to have a 4 tournament circuit tacked on to the end of my current S/P teams. My S/P teams were in agreement that this would be fine and the Pro circuit was developed.
I am confident that the bumps in the road will be smoothed out. I would have liked there to have been no issues but reality is that new things always need tweaking and humans make errors. It what we do to correct them that are important.
Teresa.

[Nick Langlois]

Thanks teressa for posting and answering all the questions!! I think that is a great concept running both circuts on one day. First you cut down your costs as a director for fee's, fuel, ect. Your really killing two birds with one stone!! so to speak. Anyways we all make mistakes, were all human. So with that ill see u in march!
nick