health care by jerry mcnerney

[Rod Martin]

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From: JerryMcNerney@mail.house.gov
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Sent: 08/31/2009 1:57:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
Subj: A message from Jerry McNerney















August 31, 2009







Dear ,



I want to thank you for contacting me with your concerns about proposed health care reforms. Health care is an important and personal issue, and I hope that my letter will answer any questions you may have.



Even though in some respects our health care system is the best in the world, most Americans agree that our system needs improvement and reform. Our health care system is the most expensive in the world, and health care costs continue to increase faster than just about any other product or service. In fact, health insurance premiums have grown at two-times the rate of inflation. This hurts our businesses, our local governments, and families that do not have insurance provided to them through their work. The growth in health care costs is simply unsustainable, and if we want our economy to recover and be strong again in the long term, then we must do something about health care.



Health care reform must be fiscally responsible, reduce costs, improve the quality of care in our country, and provide health care security for hardworking middle class families. Over the last few months I've traveled our district on a health care listening tour to meet with health care professionals, patients, and families in our area. Their input, and your input, is essential. Californians are rightfully asking what reform means for them. I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to your concerns and discuss the benefits that I believe health care reform will bring.



People who are happy with their current insurance coverage - whether it is through Medicare, an employer, or purchased individually - must be able to keep their plan and their doctor. I will not support reform efforts unless families can keep their coverage. We also need to continue to make health care more affordable for every American by harnessing competition between insurance companies, cutting wasteful spending, cracking down on fraud, eliminating common abuses in the insurance industry, and establishing a new emphasis on preventing illness before it strikes. Legislation should also place caps on annual out-of-pocket insurance expenditures so that families will not face bankruptcy in the event of a catastrophic accident or illness.



Instead of creating a new program from scratch, health reform will improve upon the best of the American health care system. Reform will reduce prices, and the leading bill in the House of Representatives will bring new transparency to the health care marketplace by ensuring the power of competition and creating a health insurance exchange.



The exchange will act as a central market for health insurance and will allow individuals and small businesses an easy way to compare insurance plans. The exchange also provides security to American families by guaranteeing that you have an easy place to turn to find a plan that will work for you. A new public insurance plan will also be sold on the exchange alongside private insurance plans. The public plan, also called the public option, is required to compete on fair terms with private insurers and will be funded through premiums - not tax revenue from the treasury. Nobody is required to purchase the public option, and I will not support any plan that requires Americans to drop or change their current coverage. Some alternative proposals do not include a public option, and details of a final bill remain under discussion.



There is a lot of information - much of which is inaccurate - swirling online and in the press about health care reform proposals. The leading bill in the House of Representatives, H.R. 3200, the America's Affordable Health Choices Act, creates the optional public plan. This proposal is uniquely American and builds on the strengths of American private enterprise and competition.



The proposed health reform is designed to help small businesses by making insurance more affordable and by assisting small business owners and the self-employed. The reform will not raise taxes on middle class families and will make Medicare more efficient and effective. The reform will ensure that decisions are made by doctors and patients, not bureaucrats. Health reform will not require federal dollars to be used to cover controversial services like abortion, and health reform will not allow illegal immigrants to enroll in taxpayer funded programs.



The discussion regarding health care is ongoing, and learning your views is imperative to the process. I will only support reforms that let people choose their plan and their doctor, that will rein in costs for families and businesses, and that build on the best traditions of the American economy and health care system. The time is now to create an improved, American health care system, and I look forward to continuing the national health care discussion. I will keep your comments in mind as we move forward together, and I encourage you to visit my website at www.mcnerney.house.gov at any time.


Sincerely,

Jerry McNerney
Member of Congress

Please do not reply to this message as the mailbox is unattended.
If you wish to contact me again, please visit my website at http://mcnerney.house.gov


Boy it sure sounds good doesnt it.

[896J]

I can't find anything wrong with that.

[2ndsuks]

Jerry McNerney is just another Pelosi puppet.

He is trying to wrap this junk socialized heath care plan in a new pretty package.

[Greg_Cornish]

Sound like a very honest man who took time to reply.

[Marty]

Sound like a very honest man who took time to reply.

Is this the reason he was willing to sign a bill with out reading it? What he is saying and what he does are two different things.

I was on his telephone town house conference the other day and he refuse to take any of my questions. And I call half hour before it started to get my questions listed first.

The question I want to ask was “why don’t we just make all health insurance companies non-profit that would reduce costs?â€

[Rod Martin]

When you read it, It sounds good. But each member of congress is starting to say , the good stuff in the bill is theirs and the bad came from someone else.

Anyone want to bet how close the real thing ,IF passed will appear next to what he sending out now.

[Dan McKenzie]

[quote]The question I want to ask was “why don’t we just make all health insurance companies non-profit that would reduce costs?â€

[Marty]

Will the real Richard Martinez come on down!

I can’t stop laughing my @ss off on this one – Hooo big coup!

I’m glad you are taking this personnel – that is what is call getting in your face is all about!
Using the same Obama rules for Radicals - Saul Alinsky's, don’t like it do you.
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm

[Marty]

[quote="Dan McKenzie"][quote]The question I want to ask was “why don’t we just make all health insurance companies non-profit that would reduce costs?â€

[Dan McKenzie]

O.K. I'm pretty clear on what a non-profit is, but forcing a for profit company into non-profit, is the government going to buy out all the investors? In my opinion a non-profit becomes a cesspool of waste. When there is no motivation to make the bottom line, or return a dividend to investors then what?

Tort reform, lets be real all that is is government regulation, more government, that just doesn't jive with what you've said in the past.

This is just more socialism and big government. Again your going back on your own philosophy of capitalism. Either you are a captitalist or not, according to everything I've seen written here you can't be both, there is no happy medium regardless if the ideas have merit or not.

[2ndsuks]

In my opinion a non-profit becomes a cesspool of waste. When there is no motivation to make the bottom line, or return a dividend to investors then what?

I totally agree with you Dan in regards to non-profits, most are apathetic wastes.

Tort reform, lets be real all that is is government regulation, more government, that just doesn't jive with what you've said in the past.

This is where we might differ. Free market capitalism in a nutshell is where a person or company makes a profit for supplying products and goods.
Regulating lawsuits is not regulating a product, lawsuits are civil penalties.
I consider myself a true capitalist however, I am pro a variety of regulations, for instance, insider trading and price fixing, they must be regulated, but on the other hand I do not consider these regulations on the free market, instead I feel they are regulations on corruption and ethics.

Either you are a capitalist or not, according to everything I've seen written here you can't be both, there is no happy medium regardless if the ideas have merit or not.

............ Once again, we agree!

[Marty]

Again your going back on your own philosophy of capitalism. Either you are a captitalist or not, according to everything I've seen written here you can't be both, there is no happy medium regardless if the ideas have merit or not.

Dan,

You need to reread my stuff again if you really want to say what I think. I once wrote that capitalism can be just as bad, even worst then socialism. Capitalism with no checks will be a hard tyranny also. I believe in the “free marketâ€

[Greg_Cornish]

Dan,

You need to reread my stuff again........

Dan, have you been looking at Marty's stuff?

[Dan McKenzie]

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: Re: health care by jerry mcnerney

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Will the real Richard Martinez come on down!


I can’t stop laughing my @ss off on this one – Hooo big coup!

I’m glad you are taking this personnel – that is what is call getting in your face is all about!
Using the same Obama rules for Radicals - Saul Alinsky's, don’t like it do you.
http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm

don't flatter yourself too much, I haven't given it enough thought to take anything you say personally. Obama rules for radicals???? Ha ha ha, your joking right? Talk about someone who has taken the bait hook, line and sinker! you actually believe what you listen to on conservative radio/tv don't you. I bet your p.o.ed over Obama giving a speach to students?

what I find interesting is that you want to adopt socialist policies and yet speak so vehemently against them. I am more or less confounded by your conflicting statements and the more I read the more I realize you really seem undecided on the issues and in fact might be a liberal at heart.

[Marty]

So you admit health insurance companies that are non-profit are socialist?

[Dan McKenzie]

must you always answer a question with a question?

my statement was "what I find interesting is that you want to adopt socialist policies and yet speak so vehemently against them. I am more or less confounded by your conflicting statements and the more I read the more I realize you really seem undecided on the issues and in fact might be a liberal at heart."

and the answer is (drumroll) ?

[Marty]

No – if you think that you don’t even come close to knowing me - like you think you do! What I tried to do is reach across the table and you turned it down – I was trying to compromise but you just wanted to make points which did not work. You still have not come up with any solutions of your own and you will never.

The reason I asked the question again is because Obama said it tonight, he wants health insurance company that is non-profit. I want to stress that point when you come back to defend your man Obama.

[Dan McKenzie]

OK, reach accross the table? yeah that sounds like you

[Greg_Cornish]

Wow Obama even eclipses Ronald Reagan as a great communicator.

[smittyfish]

Hey Marty,

I heard Obama say that he wanted the government insurance to be non profit. He didn't say that he wanted the insurance companies to be non profit. He did say that the government insurance would make the public insurance companies have to be more competitive therefore possibly cheaper.

[Greg_Cornish]

Hey Marty,

I heard Obama say that he wanted the government insurance to be non profit. He didn't say that he wanted the insurance companies to be non profit. He did say that the government insurance would make the public insurance companies have to be more competitive therefore possibly cheaper.

I love the outburst from the weirdo last night. Gathering from watching town hall meetings and that little twirp it appears like the republicans learned something from Saul Alinsky after all.

[2ndsuks]

I love the outburst from the weirdo last night. Gathering from watching town hall meetings and that little twirp it appears like the republicans learned something from Saul Alinsky after all.

Watch the speech again and listen closely, Representative Joe Wilson was not the only one upset by the presidents disingenuous statement on illegal aliens not receiving coverage. He was just the most vocal, the whole crowd grumbled.
I’m sure it’s difficult to be silent when you know your constituents are getting lied to, the average American is just not interested in snake oil anymore.
So much for the so called great communicator, he reminds me of cross between a southern preacher and Joe Izuzu.

[Greg_Cornish]

So much for the so called great communicator, he reminds me of cross between a southern preacher and Joe Izuzu.

[Greg_Cornish]

He was just the most vocal, the whole crowd grumbled.

Fine with grumbling, that's common on both sides. I realize Pelosi and Rangel would both give America away and are for giving health care to Illegals. Both my wife and I as democrats hate that ****. I can't understand how they stay elected

Its unfortunate that they are held up to being the typical democrat as much as Joe McCarthy and Jesse Helms were held up by democrats as typical republicans.

However this is far from over and I think what Obama said about not giving health care to illegals is what he meant and if the parties work together maybe they can solidify that.

[2ndsuks]

However this is far from over and I think what Obama said about not giving health care to illegals is what he meant and if the parties work together maybe they can solidify that.

Upfront he seems to be telling the truth but If you listen carefully to his words and read between the lines he's not revealing the whole story.
The fact is, there is no provision in HR 3200 that provides health care to illegal aliens, so with that said he is not lying. What the catch is, he nor the congress will allow an amendment to exclude them, the same thing goes with abortion.
That’s exactly why I said Americans are not buying snake oil anymore, their just too savvy these days.
Am I saying democrats are the only lying politicians, absolutely not, am I saying all politicians are liars, I guess I would be hard pressed to deny it.
It’s not the politician I support, it’s the philosophy of the politician that most aligns with my own and hope for the best.