Democrat Congressional Leader: Caught Lying

[Marty]

August 31, 2009, 04:47 PM

What to find corruption? Find an Obama Democrat in Washington. Between the tax cheats in the Administration and the tax cheats in the Congress, Democrats have proven not to be worthy of our trust or to be in a leadership position.

Obama openly lies about his health care bill.

Harry Reid wants the leading newspaper in Nevada to go bankrupt.

Charlie Rangel is the Democrat in charge of writing our tax laws--and he is a cheat. "Its the same old story for Rangel, who last year reluctantly acknowledged what he described as an inadvertent failure to report $75,000 in rental income for a beachfront property in the Dominican Republic. Then, many critics called on him to step down from his chairmanship, at least until his professed innocence could be established. He didn’t."

"It gets worse: Newly-filed disclosures show that Rangel failed to report at least half a million dollars in assets in 2007. They also show that his net worth is between $1 million and $2.5 million, or about twice what he claimed in 2008." He is a liar and a cheat.

Why hasn't Obama fired him? It could be he likes Rangel style!

[Greg_Cornish]

Marty, you should bow to this man and worship him for your freedom and your rights to bash him.

Rangel then enlisted in the United States Army, and served from 1948 to 1952.During the Korean War, he was a member of the all-black 503rd Field Artillery Battalion in the 2nd Infantry Division. In late November 1950, this unit was caught up in heavy fighting in North Korea as part of the U.N. forces retreat from the Yalu River. In the Battle of Kunu-Ri, Rangel was part of a vehicle column that was trapped and attacked by the Chinese Army. In the subzero cold, Rangel was injured by shrapnel from a Chinese shell. Some U.S. soldiers were being taken prisoner, but others looked to Rangel, who though only a private first class had a reputation for leadership in the unit. Rangel led some 40 men from his unit, during three days of freezing weather, out of the Chinese encirclement; nearly half of the battalion was killed in the overall battle. Rangel was awarded a Purple Heart for his wounds and the Bronze Star with Valor for his actions in the face of death. He was also awarded the Presidential Unit Citation,the Republic of Korea Presidential Unit Citation, and three battle stars.In 2000, Rangel reflected with CBS News that "Since Kunu Ri – and I mean it with all my heart, I have never, never had a bad day."

[Marty]

LOL – that does not eradicate that he was caught lying and that he is still a cheat – I can’t believe you would support a person like this, it shows your true character. No matter what side of the table you sit – wrong is wrong. Are you so blinded by your Ideological belief that you will allow liars and cheaters to run our Government?

You never did answer if you support California Democratic Rep. Diane Watson and her worship for Fidel Castro?

I guess you also support Well Eric Holder, Mark Llyod, and Van Jones?

[Greg_Cornish]

I was yankin' your chain, Marty. What two republicans would you like to see gone? My choice in democrats are Pelosi and Rangel.

[Dan McKenzie]

If I told you that Paul Stanley was caught having an affair with a winsome young blond girl, you probably wouldn't be shocked. Of course, you'd probably be thinking I was talking about the lead singer of KISS. If I told you that Paul Stanley was a God-fearing and gay-hating family values Republican state senator from Tennessee, you'd probably be even less shocked. Par for the course these days, isn't it?

The young girl, McKensie Morrison, was a legislative intern in Stanley's office when the married senator with two children started doing the mattress mambo with her. She's now 22 years old and was, obviously, even younger when this all began. Stanley went to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to report he was being blackmailed by Morrison's boyfriend -- then admitted to them that he was having an affair with her.

Oh, you might wanna set your irony meters for their highest possible level (which is "Bill O'Reilly" on mine):

"When you're married, there's a commitment there," Stanley said last year, while discussing legislation to prohibit gay people from adopting children.

In fact, Stanley was the bill's chief sponsor and he introduced the bill in the legislature. And a few days ago he issued a statement saying that it was unfair to speculate that he might have cheated with the young lady because he was the real victim here:

Unfortunately, I am the victim and a witness to a crime in an ongoing investigation. At this time, I have been advised by authorities and the District Attorney's office not to comment. There is already misinformation being inferred regarding this matter which I look forward to clearing up at the appropriate time.

But then the local media got a copy of the affidavit from the investigating officer in the case, which notes that Stanley admitting not only to a sexual relationship with her, but to taking some apparently explicit pictures of her:

During an interview with Stanley, he advised Morrison was an intern in his legislative office. Stanley subsequently advised he had developed a sexual relationship with Morrison, during her internship. During the interview, Stanley acknowledged taking a photograph(s) of Morrison in Stanley's apartment.

The punchline: Republicans are actually breathing a sigh of relief after finding out he was cheating with a woman and not a man.

Another Family Values Republican Sex Scandal

[Dan McKenzie]

Tax evasion Republican style
Kellogg Brown & Root, the nation's top Iraq war contractor and until last year a subsidiary of Halliburton Corp., has avoided paying hundreds of millions of dollars in federal Medicare and Social Security taxes by hiring workers through shell companies based in this tropical tax haven.

More than 21,000 people working for KBR in Iraq - including about 10,500 Americans - are listed as employees of two companies that exist in a computer file on the fourth floor of a building on a palm-studded boulevard here in the Caribbean. Neither company has an office or phone number in the Cayman Islands.

The Defense Department has known since at least 2004 that KBR was avoiding taxes by declaring its American workers as employees of Cayman Islands shell companies, and officials said the move allowed KBR to perform the work more cheaply, saving Defense dollars.

But the use of the loophole results in a significantly greater loss of revenue to the government as a whole, particularly to the Social Security and Medicare trust funds.
All very simple, you don't cheat on your own taxes, your CPA will find a way for you to pay less in taxes than your secretary. No, you screw your employees out of their future benefits by pretending they work for a foreign company, then pay yourself based on the juiced up profits those unpaid tax dollars appear to be. And along the way you help make Medicare and Social Security look bad. The free market hand of Dick Cheney

[Dan McKenzie]

This list of esteemed Republicans demonstrates that liars, cheats, and scumbags aren't limited to party lines, in reality low lifes are a truly Bi-partisan group.


Don Young (Republican Representative, AK): Under Investigation. Under
Federal Investigation for bribery and illegal gratuities and/or
unreported gifts from from VECO Corp., Alaska's largest oil-field
engineering firm.


Jim Gibbons (Republican Governor, NV): Under investigation. Under
Federal investigation for influence peddling for receiving gifts in
exchange for federal government contracts.


Rick Renzi (Republican Representative, AZ): Under investigation. Under
Federal investigation for involvement in land swap deal. After the
investigation of Renzi was initiated by Paul Charlton, the US Attorney
for Arizona, Charlton was added to the list of attorney's to be
dismissed in what would become the justice department's US attorney's
controversy. Previous to the investigation Charton had been on the
"retain" list.


John Doolittle (Republican Representative, CA): Under investigation.
Under Federal investigation for possible illegal activities in
connection with Lobbyist Jack Abramoff and illegal compensation of his
wife Julie Doolittle. The investigation is directed at the activities
of Sierra Dominion Financial Solutions Inc., a fund-raising company
run by Mrs.Doolittle (see below).


Julie Doolittle (Republican Consultant): Under investigation. Under
Federal investigation for possible unlawful compensation and possible
illegal activities connected with convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
Mrs. Doolittle's firm, Dominion Financial Solutions Inc., in which
Mrs. Doolittle is the only employee, received compensation and
commissions in return for event planning for Abramoff, book-keeping
services for lobbying firm connected to Abramoff and over $180,000 in
commissions since late 2001.


Curt Weldon (Republican Representative, Pennsylvania): Under
Investigation. Ongoing investigation into influence peddling and
unlawful ties to two Russian companies.


Mark Foley (Republican Representative from Florida): Under
Investigation. Resigned amid evidence that he had engaged in sexually
explicit electronic communications with former and current
congressional pages.


Ben Stevens (Republican State Senate President, Alaska): Under
Investigation. FBI investigating possible illegal "consulting" fees
paid to Stevens from the oil and fisheries industries. The fisheries
industry has received numerous substantial Federal "grants" from the
Alaska Fisheries Marketing Board of which Ben Stevens was the board's
first chairman and was curiously set up by Ben's father, Alaskan
Senator, Ted aka "the Bridge" Stevens.


Ralph Reed (Fundiecon, first executive director of the Christian
Coalition): Under Investigation. Being probed in Jack Abramoff
scandal. Target of Republican criticism arising from alleged
profiteering from his position as a Conservative Christian leader.
Numerous other shady dealings and accusations of overbilling. Resigned
from the Christian coalition after federal prosecutors began
investigating allegations by the Christian Coalition's chief financial
officer, Judy Liebert. Under his leadership the Christian Coalition
was found in violation of federal campaign finance laws during
congressional elections in 1990, 1992 and 1994, and the presidential
election in 1992.


Kenneth Tomlinson (Republican Chairman of the Broadcasting Board of
Governors, former Chairman, Corporation for Public Broadcasting):
Under Investigation. Under Investigation for misuse of Federal money.
A state department investigation revealed that Tomlinson had ran a
horse racing operation out of his office, overbilled the government,
used employees for personal errands, and "improperly" put a friend on
the payroll. PBS investigators said "that they had uncovered evidence
that its former chairman had repeatedly broken federal law and the
organization's own regulations in a campaign to combat what he saw as
liberal bias." The investigation led to his resignation from PBS in
November 2005.


Jerry Lewis (Republican Representative, California): Under
Investigation. Under Investigation for influence peddling, earmarking
Federal Funds and possible conflict of interest. Lewis is Chairman of
the House Appropriations Committee and was currently named one of the
most corrupt members of Congress by Citizens for Responsibility and
Ethics in Washington (CREW).


Indicted


Mark Deli Siljander (Republican, Former Representative, Michigan,
President Reagan alternate representative appointee to the United
Nations General Assembly): Indicted. The 42-count indictment includes
charges of money laundering, conspiracy and obstructing justice for
allegedly lying to investigators about lobbying efforts on behalf of
the Islamic American Relief Agency which allegedly has funneled funds
to declared terrorists.


Michael S. Carona (Republican, Sheriff, Orange County, CA, Resigned):
Indicted. Grand jury 10-count indictment include bribery, tax evasion,
conspiracy and witness-tampering and faces a maximum sentence of up to
20 years.


Glenn Murphy Jr. (Young Republican National Chairman, Clark County GOP
Chairman, Indiana): Indicted. Resigned from all GOP positions during
investigation for criminal deviate conduct, a Class B felony.
According to the report Murphy performed oral sex on another sleeping
man without his consent during a party for Young Republicans. Murphy
was also investigated in 1998 for sexual battery for apparently
committing the same act. Murphy was charged with a class B felony,
criminal deviate conduct and faces between six and 20 years if
convicted.


Ozwald Balfour (Republican, Founder, Utah Republican Black Assembly):
Indicted. Charged with three felony counts forcible sexual abuse and
one felony count of attempted forcible sexual abuse after allegedly
groping four women.


Robert Lichfield (Republican fundraiser for Mitt Romney): Indicted.
Named along with 140 other defendents, the Federal lawsuit alleges
that students at schools operated by the Worldwide Association of
Specialty Schools, were subjected to "physical abuse, emotional abuse
and sexual abuse."


Alan B. Fabian (Republican fundraiser for Mitt Romney and Bush
Ranger): Indicted. Indicted by a grand jury on 23-counts of mail
fraud, money laundering, bankruptcy fraud, perjury and obstruction of
justice. According to prosecutors, Fabian made $32 million in false
purchases of computer equipment, but actually spent the money on real
estate and private jet use.


Robert Regola (Republican State Senator, PA): Indicted. Indicted on
three counts of perjury, allowing possession of a firearm by a minor,
recklessly endangering another person and false swearing in the
suicide death of a teenage neighbor in which his weapon was used.


Bruce Weyhrauch (Former Republican state representative, Alaska):
Indicted. Weyhrauch faces four counts of extortion, bribery and wire
or mail fraud. Weyhrauch faces charges of helping to pass legislation
in exchange for future legal work contracts from the oil engineering
firm VECO.


Abdul Tawala Ibn Ali Alishtari (aka Michael Mixon) (Republican
businessman, GOP Donor, White House Advisor, activist): Indicted.
Attempted to send over 150 thousand dollars to the Middle East to
purchase equipment for terrorist training camps in Afghanistan. Also
facing charges of money laundering.


Kyle "Dusty" Foggo (Republican Former CIA official): Indicted . 11
counts of fraud, conspiracy and money laundering. Connected to bribery
of convicted Congressman Duke Cunningham. (See below)


Tom aka "The Hammer" DeLay (GOP House Majority Leader): Indicted.
Resigned. Indicted on multiple charges money laundering and
conspiracy. Implicated with Abramoff.


John Colyandro (Executive Director of the political action committee
Texans for a Republican Majority): Indicted. Charged along with Tom
Delay and Jim Ellis in numerous conspiracy, money laundering and
illegal campaign finance activities.


Jim Ellis (Executive Director, Americans for a Republican Majority):
Indicted. Charged with Delay and Colyandro in "scheme to use corporate
political donations illegally to support candidates in state
elections."


Warren RoBold (DeLay fundraiser): Indicted. Charged with nine
different felonies in Delay money laundering campaign contribution
scheme.


Ernie Fletcher(Kentucky Republican Governor, Evolution hater):
Indicted. Cronyism. Due to the likelihood of Fletcher's executive
immunity as governor and the likelihood of pardoning himself upon
leaving office a plea bargain was reached where "The governor
acknowledges that the evidence strongly indicates wrongdoing by his
administration with regard to personnel actions within the merit
system. Further, the governor hereby states that these actions were
inappropriate and that he regrets their occurrence and accepts
responsibility for them as head of the executive branch of state
government."


James Tobin (President George W. Bush's New England campaign
chairman): Retrial. Convicted on telephone harassment charges "for his
part in a plot to jam the Democrats' phones on Election Day 2002."
Update: 6/07/07. Conviction overturned on appeal. Prosecutors were
reviewing the decision, and did not say if they planned to appeal.


Lawrence Novak (Vice-Chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Party)
Indicted. Charged with laundering money from a client facing drug
charges.


Guilty


Pete Kott (Former Republican state representative, Alaska): Guilty.
Found Guilty on three counts of extortion, bribery and mail fraud for
recieving money in exchange for his support of a pipeline and a tax
proposal that favored the oil engineering firm VECO.


Victor Kohring (Former Republican state representative, Alaska):
Guilty. Kohring was found guilty conspiracy, bribery, and attempted
extortion for accepting bribes from oil company VECO Corporation in
exchange for services rendered in the company's behalf in the Alaska
State Legislature.


John E. Sweeney (Republican, Former Representative, New York): Guilty.
Pled guily to aggravated DWI. Arresting officer witnessed Sweeny's
vehicle swerving erratically with a young woman partially sitting on
his lap. Sweeney's blood alcohol level was .18, over twice the legal
limit.


Bob Allen (Republican state representative and co-chairman of John
McCain's presidential campaign, Florida, Resigned): Guilty. Found
guilty of solicitation to commit prostitution after being arrested at
a public restroom, offering cash to perform oral sex on a male
undercover police officer. Sentenced to six months probation, fine,
court costs, mandatory STD testing and education and to stay away from
the park where he was arrested.


Thomas Ravenel (former Republican State Treasurer and Rudolph Giuliani
State Chairman, South Carolina): Guilty. Plead guilty to "conspiring
to buy and distribute less than 100 grams of cocaine". Faces sentence
of up to fifty years in prison.


Jeffrey Ray Nielsen (Republican, Former Aide to Rep. Dana Rohrabacher,
R-Huntington Beach, Republican Activist): Guilty. Pled guilty to
molesting two teenage boys in order to avoid second trial and a
maximum 11 year sentence. Nielsen faces 3 years in prison.


Ted Klaudt (Republican, Former State Representative, State Senate
Candidate, South Dakota): Guilty. Found guilty on four counts of
second-degree rape. Klaudt used the pretext of his underage foster
daughters selling fertile eggs to perform fake "medical exams". Klaudt
faces a maximum sentence up to 100 years (25 years for each count).


Brent Wilkes (Republican businessman, Defence Contractor): Guilty.
Found guilty on all 13 counts of conspiracy, bribery, money laundering
and bribes involving convicted Congressman Duke Cunningham in return
for government contracts. Still awaiting second trial on multiple
counts of bribery involving former CIA executive director Dusty Foggo.


Larry Craig (Republican Senator, ID, Resigned as U.S. Senate co-chair
of the Mitt Romney for president campaign): Guilty. Arrested in June
2007 on suspicion of propositioning police officer at Minneapolis-St.
Paul International Airport. Pled guilty to a misdemeanor charge of
disorderly conduct. Craig payed a fine, was given one year of
probation and a 10 day jail sentence which was stayed. Craig now
denies wrongdoing.


Michael Flory (former head of the Michigan Federation of Young
Republicans): Guilty. Pled guilty to sexual battery in a plea bargain
while on trial for overpowering and repeatedly raping a young woman in
a hotel room during a national Young Republican convention in
Cleveland in the summer of 2006. Sentenced to five years in prison.


Italia Federici (President, Council of Republicans for Environmental
Advocacy): Guilty. Pled guilty in Federal investigation for tax
evasion and obstructing a Senate investigation in exchange for
cooperating in continuing Congressional and Bush Administration
corruption investigation involving former convicted lobbyist Jack
Abramoff.


J. Steven Griles (former Deputy Secretary for the U.S. Department of
Interior, Coal Lobbyist): Guilty. Plead guilty to felony obstruction
of justice for making false statements in relation to Abramoff
lobbying scandal.


Tom Anderson (former Republican state representative, Alaska): Guilty.
Found guilty on all charges. Sentencing scheduled in October 2007.
Anderson faces a maximum penalty of 20 years and $250,000 for
extortion, 20 years and $500,000 on each count of money laundering, 10
years and $250,000 on the bribery count and five years and a $250,000
fine for conspiracy.


Bernard Kerik (NYPD Commissioner, Bush homeland security chief
nominee, formerly the Interim Minister of Interior of Iraq): Guilty.
Pled guilty to two ethics violations accepting $165,000 in renovations
to his Bronx apartment from a contractor with suspected mob ties and
an illegal loan. Under investigation for tax fraud, conspiracy to
eavesdrop and mortgage fraud.


Lewis aka "Scooter" Libby (V-P Chief of Staff): Guilty. Resigned.
Found Guilty on four charges of obstruction of justice, 2 counts of
perjury, and one count of lying to federal investigators in Plame leak
investigation. Sentenced to 30 months in prison. Sentence commuted by
Presidential order.


Gary Miller (Republican Representative, California): Guilty. Ongoing
investigation by FBI and IRS for tax evasion on earmarked investment
property.


Lester M. Crawford (FDA Commissioner): Guilty. Resigned after two
months as FDA Chief in Fall 2005, pled guilty in October 2006 to
charges he hid ownership in food and drug companies that his agency
regulated.


Jack Abramoff (Lobbyist): Guilty. Pled Guilty to multiple felony
conspiracy, bribery, tax evasion and fraud counts. Currently
testifying in gang-style murder of SunCruz Casinos owner Konstantinos
Boulis.


David Safavian (Employee of the Office of Management and Budget):
Guilty. Four felony counts of lying and obstruction in Abramoff
lobbying and corruption scandal.


Tony Rudy (Lobbyist, DeLay staffer): Guilty. Unindicted co-conspirator
"Staffer A" in DeLay scandal. Pled guilty to one charge of conspiracy
and agreed to cooperate with investigators.


Michael Scanlon (Former DeLay Communications Director, Lobbyist):
Guilty. Pled guilty to conspiring to bribe a member of Congress and
other public officials.


Bob Ney (Republican Representative, Ohio): Guilty. Pled guilty to
conspiracy and making false statements in relation to the Abramoff
scandal. Sentenced to 30 months in prison, a $6,000 fine and 200 hours
of community service.


Neil Volz (Chief of Staff to Representative Bob Ney): Guilty. Pleded
guilty to one count of conspiracy, including wire fraud and violating
House rules.


Tom Noe (Republican (Bush/Cheney) Fundraiser, Activist): Guilty. Found
guilty of money laundering and under indictment for a plethora of
felonies in the Ohio "Coingate" scandal.


Randall aka "Randy" or "Duke" Cunningham (Republican Congressman):
Guilty. Pled Guilty to bribery, conspiracy to commit bribery, mail
fraud, wire fraud, and tax evasion. Currently serving eight year
sentence.


Mitchell Wade (Defence Contractor, President MZM, Inc.,): Guilty. Paid
over $1 million in bribes to "Duke" Cunningham in exchange for
millions more in government contracts.


Claude Allen (Presidential Domestic Policy Advisor, Fundiecon):
Guilty. Pled guilty in felony theft scheme of returning shoplifted
goods for refund.


Bob Taft (Ohio Republican Governor): Guilty. Pled "No Contest" to four
criminal misdemeanors for undisclosed gifts.


Shaun Hansen (Republican Activist): Guilty. Former co-owner of Idaho-
based telemarketing firm Mylo Enterprises. Charged for conspiring to
commit, and aiding and abetting the commission of, interstate
telephone harassment relating to a scheme to jam several New Hampshire
telephone lines on Election Day, 2002.


Charles McGee (former Executive Director of the New Hampshire
Republican State Committee): Guilty. Plead Guilty to conspiracy to
commit telephone harassment in New Hampshire phone scam. Sentenced to
7 months.


Allen Raymond (President, GOP Marketplace): Guilty. Hired by McGee to
jam Democratic phone lines in New Hampshire phone scam. Served 4
Months. Served and released.


George Ryan (Former Republican Governor of Illinois):Guilty. 16
federal public corruption convictions of racketeering and bribery.


John Roland (Republican governor, Connecticut): Guilty. Pled guilty to
corruption charges. Served sentence and released.


Adam Taff (Republican Congressional Candidate): Guilty. Pled guilty to
one count of wire fraud and one count of violating federal campaign
law in charges stemming from his use of campaign funds to put a down
payment on a 1.2 million dollar home.


Dishonorable Mentions


Richard Curtis (Republican State Representative, La Center,
Washington) Resigned.. Resigned after denying and then admitting
having paid for sex with 26-year-old male waiter. Curtis, opposed a
2006 gay rights discrimination bill and a 2007 domestic partnership
bill.


Ken Calvert (Republican Representative, California) Should be under
investigation. Earmarked Federal funds for personal gain by buying and
selling land that benefited from multiple freeways and commerical
development pushed through by his position as a Representative. Ties
with consulting firm of Copeland, Lowery that is currently under
investigation in the Jerry Lewis scandal above.
Also. Arrested in 1993 for Soliciting a prostitute.


Don Sherwood (Former Republican Representative, Pennsylvania): Civil
Suit Settlement. Settled in civil suit with former mistress accusing
Sherwood of repeatedly assaulting her during their 5-year extramarital
relationship. The mistress, Cynthia Ore, called police in September
2004, after locking herself in the bathroom, and accused Sherwood of
choking her. No charges were filed because "Both parties have left out
significant information or are not willing to discuss in detail what
actually happened".


Rush Limbaugh (Conservative Radio Talk Show Host): Plea Bargain.
Charged with "doctor shopping" to obtain prescription pain medication.
Limbaugh surrendered to authorities after a warrant was issued for his
arrest. Prosecutors agreed to drop the charge if Limbaugh paid $30,000
to help offset investigation costs, complete a drug addiction
treatment with his physician and submit to random drug testing.


Bill O'Reilly (Conservative Fox News Talk Show Host): Civil Suit
Settlement. Settled a civil suit for sexual harrassment. Former
O'Reilly factor producer Mackris filed a sexual harassment suit,
complaining that O'Reilly had made numerous references to "phone sex,
vibrators, threesomes, masturbation, the loss of his virginity, and
other sexual fantasies".

[2ndsuks]

And you're not pissed off!

[Dan McKenzie]

po'ed hardly. just want to see fair and balanced reporting of low lifes.

[Marty]

I was yankin' your chain, Marty. What two republicans would you like to see gone? My choice in democrats are Pelosi and Rangel.

Greg it would be easier to ask what Republicans I would not vote for then the worst two. The only one I would vote for at this time would be Tom McClintock (there may be some good ones in other States that I don’t know about). But a good rule of thump for me this upcoming election is I will not be voting for one single incumbent and I don’t care what side of the table they are on.

We need to send a message to them they work for us and not the other way around. I have been trying to think of some way of taking the money out of running for Office. It just pisses me off they go to Washington broke and come out rich.

Off on a tangent here!

If I had the power not one politician (to include the President) would receive more pay then our military, receive better health care then our military, and dare sure not a better retirement then our military. If our women and men (please note I put women first) of this Nation can serve their country for what they are getting now, then why not politician.

Done with my rant – can I get amen!

[Rod Martin]

Dan , I'm glad you got that out of the way. What? do you think because there are republicans that do bad things we should not shine the light on Dem.s

Turn around pat yourself on the back then, think about it , you're right back to "Bush did it so we get a free pass"

Throw out all the bad seed Rs and Ds.

[Thunnus Salmoides]

To quote Ann Coulter "There are many bad Republicans. There are no good Democrats."

To quote Dan McKenzie "Take your time scouring the internet for your next cut and paste response."

Tell me you didn't cut and paste from the Daily Kos. Is that where you get your fair and balanced news?

[Greg_Cornish]

To quote Ann Coulter

Oh man, things are going downhill fast in here when you start quoting republican she-males.

[Dan McKenzie]

That's brilliant, for all of us know what a fine upstanding entertainer Coulter is. And if you actually find yourself listening to and believing what she says, well let's just say you won't be mistaken for a Rhodes scholar anytime soon.

Of course I don't keep a list of loser republicans compiled, but I can also write my own words, which apparently for some is harder than it is for others. And then some others would have you believe what they copied and pasted are their own words.

What's your point anyhow? Do you want to stand up and defend Marty? How galliant of you to run to his defense.

[Thunnus Salmoides]

To quote Ann Coulter

Oh man, things are going downhill fast in here when you start quoting republican she-males.

If you can quote Barney Frank and call him "The man"

Forget it Marty, Its like the man said, "Arguing with to you is like arguing with a coffee table."

[2ndsuks]

po'ed hardly. just want to see fair and balanced reporting of low lifes.

Fair and balanced?

Your idea of fair and balanced is no different than the mainstream media, where are the democrat low lifes?

[Thunnus Salmoides]

That's brilliant, for all of us know what a fine upstanding entertainer Coulter is. And if you actually find yourself listening to and believing what she says, well let's just say you won't be mistaken for a Rhodes scholar anytime soon.

Of course I don't keep a list of loser republicans compiled, but I can also write my own words, which apparently for some is harder than it is for others. And then some others would have you believe what they copied and pasted are their own words.

What's your point anyhow? Do you want to stand up and defend Marty? How galliant of you to run to his defense.

I quoted Ann Coulter because I thought that was a good line and didn't want to steal it. My point was to show your hypocrisy, if I have to explain it to you. You seem to have issues with other people cutting and pasting but then do it yourself and not reveal the source. As for Marty needing defending is laughable. He is a big boy and can take care of himself.

[Dan McKenzie]

I think you guys do a good enough job turning rocks over and finding them, it would just be redundant for me to list them too.

[Dan McKenzie]

Hyprocisy-now thats a stretch. I realize everyone, or should I say most do so from time to time and I don't have a problem with it per se. But if cut and paste is essentially the bulk of your posting then I take issue with it.

[Marty]

Hyprocisy-now thats a stretch. I realize everyone, or should I say most do so from time to time and I don't have a problem with it per se. But if cut and paste is essentially the bulk of your posting then I take issue with it.

I know what you mean

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[Delta is beast]

i cant believe u would actually post that. every single congressional leader lies. im republican. i know they lie. i know the dems lie. they all lie. thats what politicians do. i cant believe u actually posted this.

[896J]

i cant believe u would actually post that. every single congressional leader lies. im republican. i know they lie. i know the dems lie. they all lie. thats what politicians do. i cant believe u actually posted this

100% correct. Democrats push issues that benefit their financial supporters and so do Republicans. Both parties take up issues and sell uninformed people on their agenda. You have to wade through a stream of BS from both parties to get the truth in any issue (which is small details no one talks about). People want soundbites today, not concepts. Political consultants figure out how to wrap complex issues into a catchy one sentence soundbite to sway people one way or the other. They use focus groups to determine effective catch phrases. Newspapers buy all of their news from the same sources as the Cable TV news, and we're all too busy to read all of the details. I don't trust either party to look out for me, it's way too risky with all of the money in the politics business these days.

[Greg_Cornish]

I'm just happy fishermen don't lie.

[Dan McKenzie]

Oh no you got me! over 1K posts and you found 5 examples that are not at all what I am talking about. But you already knew that didn't you?