Poll on Obama

[Greg_Cornish]

Vote and discuss?

Obama is planning a 20-minute back-to-school address — in which he is expected to urge students to work hard and set educational goals for themselves. It has created much controversy.

[2ndsuks]

Obama is planning a 20-minute back-to-school address — in which he is expected to urge students to work hard and set
educational goals for themselves.

Take a look at the Obama Pledge Video that was shown to school kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0

I pledge to keep Obama away from my kids.

Obama's original message was to focus on "how can we help the president", that's down right creepy!

Hey, if he were to address these kids and leave it about education and school I would have no issue with it. The problem is, he won't.
I assure you, there will be subliminal social messages in his approach, it’s ingrained in his character, that’s who he is.

And this short video is an example of what we have to fear!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onXd8iH3OVQ

[biteme]

It just never ends! One thing is for sure. If Republicans keep this kind of crap up they wont be getting any new votes. Man this **** is getting out of control, Dems say blue Repubs say green.

[Delta is beast]

noooo. if it was actually on education yeah. but its not. its political not educational

[Greg_Cornish]

Take a look at the Obama Pledge Video that was shown to school kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0

I pledge to keep Obama away from my kids.

Obama's original message was to focus on "how can we help the president", that's down right creepy!

Hey, if he were to address these kids and leave it about education and school I would have no issue with it. The problem is, he won't.
I assure you, there will be subliminal social messages in his approach, it’s ingrained in his character, that’s who he is.

In other words you don't pledge to do a damn thing. As far as it being ingrained in his character, how long have you known Obama personally? So you are saying that if he say diverts from speaking about education and says something about family and the importance of it and tries to inspire the children, he will be trying to start another Nazi Culture.

I pledge to try to use less gasoline. I pledge to recycle more. I pledge to try to heal the fear conservatives have of the world and give them peace. I pledge to teach Dan Quayle how to spell potato

And this short video is an example of what we have to fear!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onXd8iH3OVQ

Why are you so afraid of black people? I had this same kind of brainwashing happen to me during the Vietnam era while in the military. So did thousands of others. Would you rather see these boys standing around with nothing to do? Perhaps getting into trouble? You don't like to see disciplined young black men? Do you think Obama made this movie?

[Dan McKenzie]

What's taking place now is a pathetic display of un-American behavior by a bunch of selfish poor sports acting worse than 10 year olds. It's disrespectful to the office of President and to our Nation. Is this really the message that conservatives want to send? If the side your on loses, quit. Oh wait didn't Palin just do that too?

[RichThiel]

[Greg_Cornish]

[quote="RichThiel"][/quote]Great post Rich! You drinkin' what I'm drinkin'?

[Dan McKenzie]

I ahd a fwe rdebrigde beres tongite, nto ot bda fro gltuen free bere! dwon whit celaic desiase!!!

[Greg_Cornish]

I ahd a fwe rdebrigde beres tongite, nto ot bda fro gltuen free bere! dwon whit celaic desiase!!!

I'm to drunk to understand wtf you sed.

[2ndsuks]

I gave my opinion without personally attacking anyone on this board for theirs. Unfortunatly, the same cant be said for Greg or Dan.

If you want this idiot of a president indoctrinating your kids that’s fine but don’t think for one minute you can shove that ideological **** down the throats of mine. Who the hell are you to tell me what’s best for my kids?
You two are as phony as a three dollar bill, you have the elitist mentality down to a science the only thing lacking is the intellect.

[Greg_Cornish]

but don’t think for one minute you can shove that ideological **** down the throats of mine. Who the hell are you to tell me what’s best for my kids?.

Trust me, your kids will be better off if we guide them. Seriously! They will grow up loving people instead of hating them!

[2ndsuks]

Everything is a joke to you Greg, my kids and their well being are not a ****ing joke to me.

[Dan McKenzie]

I don't think anyone believes that your children are a joke. I guess the question I would ask, what good are you doing by keeping your children from hearing their president give a 20 minute pep rally talk? And let's hope you use a little better language around them then you do around here.

[smittyfish]

HEy 2nd,

Using that language really shows your level of intellect, or better yet, your lack of intellect. You can talk and be heard and be much more respected if you talk without profanity. Or is that just more of your conservative ways. Oh wait, I remember hearing your last VP use that same language. I guess it really is a conservative thing.

[Greg_Cornish]

No answers in 12 hours, I win the political Board. It's mine.

[2ndsuks]

In other words you don't pledge to do a damn thing. You are right I won't pledge a damn thing to a prsident, now if it were a pledge to our country I already have. As far as it being ingrained in his character, how long have you known Obama personally? How long did you know Bush, I'll leave it at that! So you are saying that if he say diverts from speaking about education and says something about family and the importance of it and tries to inspire the children, he will be trying to start another Nazi Culture. Nope, I am saying that Barack Obama has demonstrated he has a Socialist agenda and his original message he tried to sneak in was to address school children on '"how they can help him" and that is fundamentally wrong, it was no big surprise he dropped it when it was challenged.

And this short video is an example of what we have to fear!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onXd8iH3OVQ[/quote ]Why are you so afraid of black people? This is ironic Greg, I see the indoctrination of children but you see a poignant vision of "black people" How sad. I had this same kind of brainwashing happen to me during the Vietnam era while in the military. So did thousands of others. I can see that Greg Would you rather see these boys standing around with nothing to do? Perhaps getting into trouble? I'd rather see them in school You don't like to see disciplined young black men? Do you think Obama made this movie?No I don't, I do think the community Obama organized did!

Have you ever noticed the counterfeit southern intonation in his speeches, for a guy educated in Hawaii and Indonesia he sure tries hard to sound like Martin Luther King JR.

[Vince E]

I had to vote no on this because of the specific words "without parental consent"

If the parents are doing their job it should not matter what anyone says to their children. The parents would have the opportunity to talk with their children about what has been said, what the parents think the true meanings or possible dangers are, and if they are decent people, help their children to make up their own minds about how they perceive it.

It is not the parents job to make sure their children parrot their own views, it their job to help them become well prepared, free thinking individuals. Even if that means their children eventually see things differently than them.


With that said if someone is pumping input into children's minds without giving the parents the chance to discuss it with the children they would be committing a crime in my mind.

I copied this comment from an article in the Baltimore sun and it says it much how I feel.



[quote]

The problem is not the content. The problem is its not his responsibility to talk to my kids, it’s my responsibility. It appears that the President thinks that today’s parents are generally failures at parenting, and thus he needs to step in.

This is what I thought of after reading the text:

George Orwell, Chapter 2, 1984

“With those children, he thought, that wretched woman must lead a life of terror. Another year, two years, and they would be watching her night and day for symptoms of unorthodoxy. Nearly all children nowadays were horrible. What was worst of all was that by means of such organizations as the Spies they were systematically turned into ungovernable little savages, and yet this produced in them no tendency whatever to rebel against the discipline of the Party. On the contrary, they adored the Party and everything connected with it. The songs, the processions, the banners, the hiking, the drilling with dummy rifles, the yelling of slogans, the worship of Big Brother — it was all a sort of glorious game to them. All their ferocity was turned outwards, against the enemies of the State, against foreigners, traitors, saboteurs, thought-criminals. It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which The Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak — ‘child hero’ was the phrase generally used — had overheard some compromising remark and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.â€

[RichThiel]

Sorry Greg, I don't drink even tho I retired from the Beer Industries, 23 yrs. And Dan, give it up....the best in the house is Gary Collins (Hubspinner)

All I can say about last weeks speech, "Is Screw OBimbo" and his 31 Nazi's.