Anyone know if these motors are approved on DVL?

split172 · Post by **split172** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:41 pm

98 200 H.P. Mercury Optimax?

99 200 H.P. Mercury Optimax?

00 200 H.P. Mercury Optimax?

Anything Direct injection should be good right????????

split172 · Post by **split172** » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:08 pm

bonsaibp · Post by **bonsaibp** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:40 am

I believe they need to be HPDI

Brian D. · Post by **Brian D.** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:09 am

new tech and are not approve.. More than likely you're gonna have to looks at 2002 or newer models.

HPDI is Yamaha and it is approved.

Byron · Post by **Byron** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:36 am

All direct injected CARB rated 2 strokes and most 4 strokes are allowed. The problem is you can't launch without water.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:59 am

Yea, water would definately help. So I should be fine then with the 99 opti right. Its direct injected. ???? I know the 00 opti is from seeing another persons boat with the MWD yellow sticker.

Brian D. · Post by **Brian D.** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:52 pm

if you have this decal on the outboard, then you're good to go.

bigbass111 · Post by **bigbass111** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:28 pm

All DFI and 4 strokes are good....

tunaman · Post by **tunaman** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:20 pm

bigbass111 wrote:All DFI and 4 strokes are good....

Not true... here are the guidelines:

Engine Requirements.

To be allowed onto the reservoirs, youâ€™ll need the cleaner burning models that comply with California Air Resources Board emission standards for model year 2001 or later (or the equivalent 2006 standard set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency)

With the exception of personal watercraft, all four-cycle engines (regardless of year) are allowed on DVL and Lake Skinner.

If your engine is model year 2001 or later , and made by the following major marine engine manufacturers , it should comply:

* Johnson and Evinrude.
* Honda Motor Corp.
* Yamaha Motor Corp.
* Suzuki Motor Corp.
* Tohatsu Corp.
* Mercury Marine.
* Nissan Marine.

If you are still not sure look for the stars New technology engines (model year 2001 and later) have a one-to-three star decal showing they comply with emission standards. Or check for the label EPA-certified engines from 1998 to 2000 display an Emission Control Information label that shows it complies with 2001 (or later) California emission regulations for spark-ignition marine engines.

For supporting details, check the owner's manual or the manufacturer's Web site.

Here's a link to DVL's boat requirements page:
http://www.dvlake.com/inspection03.html

Be sure whatever you get will comply with the requirements, as their sticker inspection is very concise... no exceptions allowed.

Roger

Rob Dickson · Post by **Rob Dickson** » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:15 pm

my 2000 225 opti passed just fine. Just needs to be dfi engine if 2 stroke.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:46 am

Well, thanks for all the replies. Still clear as mud.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:50 am

Brian D. wrote:if you have this decal on the outboard, then you're good to go.

Dude.... it doesnt get any more simple than that.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:14 am

If they all had that sticker it would be that easy guy. BUT those stickers started in 01.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:19 am

tunaman wrote:
bigbass111 wrote:All DFI and 4 strokes are good....
Not true... here are the guidelines:

Engine Requirements.

To be allowed onto the reservoirs, youâ€™ll need the cleaner burning models that comply with California Air Resources Board emission standards for model year 2001 or later (or the equivalent 2006 standard set by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency)

With the exception of personal watercraft, all four-cycle engines (regardless of year) are allowed on DVL and Lake Skinner.

If your engine is model year 2001 or later , and made by the following major marine engine manufacturers , it should comply:

* Johnson and Evinrude.
* Honda Motor Corp.
* Yamaha Motor Corp.
* Suzuki Motor Corp.
* Tohatsu Corp.
* Mercury Marine.
* Nissan Marine.

If you are still not sure look for the stars New technology engines (model year 2001 and later) have a one-to-three star decal showing they comply with emission standards. Or check for the label EPA-certified engines from 1998 to 2000 display an Emission Control Information label that shows it complies with 2001 (or later) California emission regulations for spark-ignition marine engines.

For supporting details, check the owner's manual or the manufacturer's Web site.

Here's a link to DVL's boat requirements page:
http://www.dvlake.com/inspection03.html

Be sure whatever you get will comply with the requirements, as their sticker inspection is very concise... no exceptions allowed.

Roger

Ok here is another one ... read... its not that tough.

The info is right there in front of you.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:20 am

or better yet, if you cant read you can always call DVL..

951-926-7201

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:35 am

split172 wrote:If they all had that sticker it would be that easy guy. BUT those stickers started in 01.

I am pretty sure the stickers started in 1999 or 2000 with the Optis but stated the motor complied with the '01 guidelines.

bigbass111 · Post by **bigbass111** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:50 am

AGAIN, all DFI's and 4 Stroke's....

And just so you know, all of those manufacture's since 2001 have been making EFI and carb motors. So not every motor manufactured after that time will work........

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:13 am

I can read just fine. Its the question if those motors are able to go on DVL. Obviously if it had the CA emission sticker it wouldn't be a problem. If I had the motor right in front of me to look at the specific EPA label, that might help. I was asking if anyone knows if the years stated are good to go. I have researched the sites given from the DVL page links and have not found my answer. I have some people say DFI's are good to go, then others say its not. Then I have douche bags saying I can't read,yet he doesn't know either. So thank you goes out to those trying to help. Sometimes in life, if you don't know the answer to something, its best just to say "I don't know.". That's a bit better than being an @ hole!

Brian D. · Post by **Brian D.** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:24 am

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:28 am

man you are one sad individual.. your feathers are so ruffled..

look

IS YOUR ENGINE A DFI? if you do not know what DFI is google it.

DID YOU CALL DVL TO ASK?
951-926-7201

MINE IS A 05 OPTIMAX... IT GETS ON ANY LAKE NO PROBLEM.

I never had to deal with this problem, if I did encounter this problem I wouldnt rely solely on this website to obtain your info.

Google your motor.. find your specs.. if you dont know your specs call Anglers Marine and ask anyone in the service department.

Then I would call DVL since they are the ones that do the inspections, not anyone on this board.

you are making this way harder than it needs to be.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:29 am

split172 wrote:I can read just fine. Its the question if those motors are able to go on DVL. Obviously if it had the CA emission sticker it wouldn't be a problem. If I had the motor right in front of me to look at the specific EPA label, that might help. I was asking if anyone knows if the years stated are good to go. I have researched the sites given from the DVL page links and have not found my answer. I have some people say DFI's are good to go, then others say its not. Then I have douche bags saying I can't read,yet he doesn't know either. So thank you goes out to those trying to help. Sometimes in life, if you don't know the answer to something, its best just to say "I don't know.". That's a bit better than being an @ hole!

You can blast names all you want but im not the dumb@ss that doesnt know what his own motor is... rather than listen to people who are giving you mixed info CALL THE LAKE! There info is the only info that matters.

Sorry if I made you sad..

Ill put one of these at the end so you can have a big smile too, because this is cracking me up

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:35 am

"Hello.... Is this Diamond Valley Marina?"

"Yes it is....How can I help you?"

"Umm... I have a boat equipped with a __________ ( you can fill in the blank ), Is that engine allowed to be on your lake?"

I promise they will answer you.

And yes I know I am an @__hole.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:35 am

I am looking at maybe buying a boat with those years of outboards. I am not the dumb f*ck assuming things.

Moose · Post by **Moose** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:38 am

Mine is an '00 Optimax and it's been cleared.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:39 am

just call the lake man.. they are there to help you. If you are purchasing a boat for the sole purpose of getting on DVL ( exactly what I did ) I highly suggest calling them and familiarizing yourself with what they need. They may have changed their allowances since 2005.

Shore Hunter · Post by **Shore Hunter** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:45 am

When did they start allowing personal boats on the lake? Last I knew they would not allow any. If you wanted to use a boat it had to be one of their rentals. It has been a couple months since I have been so maybe they changed it.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:47 am

they are extending the ramp and adding water. It will be open in a few months hopefully.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:48 am

They are tentatively opening in feb-mar. Hopefully that date will stick. Thanks to Megan from last chance we may get on DVL with private boats again.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:13 am

bigbass111 wrote:All DFI and 4 strokes are good....

Per Jessica at DVL marina all DFI's are allowed. Exactly the same restrictions as before. Thanks bigbass for giving accurate info from the beginning.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:19 am

See nothing beats calling the lake.

.

bigbass111 · Post by **bigbass111** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:23 am

I guess all these years of selling boats helped me get something right!!!!

Just so your more informed, DFI stands for "Direct Fuel Injection". The 2 stroke Mercury's that are not allowed say EFI or XR6.
The EFI is Electronic Fuel Injection and the XR6 is Carborated... All 4 strokes and DFI motors from the other manufactures are good for DVL as well.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:25 am

I may be reading into this too much but i get the feeling that you are trying to say that all 4 strokes and DFI's are good on DVL...

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:28 am

Thanks for the info. I am familiar with DFI, just wasn't sure if the earlier opti's were DV approved. Thanks again for the correct, straight forward, and direct answer.

split172 · Post by **split172** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:30 am

Call the lake and find out for yourself wino. Can't you read!

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:35 am

I dont like wine.. it makes me too giggly.

N.A.R · Post by **N.A.R** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:13 pm

I just think its funny, that you two guys have met before at DVL and your on here snippin at each other.....LOL

Someguy you gave Rob some good info on fishing the lake......LOL

Anywho....Rob you getting ready to hit DOMENIGONI again?

BassManDan · Post by **BassManDan** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:23 pm

SOMEGUY,
You need to spend more time on "the other bass forum website" where your cynicism and humor will be truly appreciated by myself and many others

Thanks all who particiated in this post for a very entertaining read!

Kenneth Haring · Post by **Kenneth Haring** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:10 pm

I have a 2000 OPTI (DFI) and I have Had season pass since lake opened. Ken

Shore Hunter · Post by **Shore Hunter** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:54 pm

It is about time they started adding water. Although I am sure they have a good reason for lowering the level (Zebra Mussels). That means the good shore fishing spots will be back underwater again. Yeah! Hopefully DV will back to the way it used to be in time.
I am glad for the guys that have boats, that they will start allowing them again. Great news! Although I don't have a boat

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:36 am

I'm glad that people realize I am only joking around. I try and help people out for the most part. Good Ju Ju.

I can't wait to be sitting at the bottom of the hill.

ns nitro · Post by **ns nitro** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:53 am

John U really are an a**hole!!!

Nate

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:14 am

Now Now Nate.

ns nitro · Post by **ns nitro** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:52 am

Ha Ha Im just bustin ballz!! U know that kid!!!

Nate

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:06 am

I know holmes.

Guyle · Post by **Guyle** » Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:26 am

So are DFIs allowed?

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