What is the Hook series payback %???

[Levy]

Does anybody know. The website only say's that the options are paid back 100% but say's nothing about the tourney entry.

I know the Tracy Bass Amature series pays back 100% and wanted to know if the Hook series does the same thing.

THX

[bassmeout]

If you start thinking about it !!! You will not fish the hook.
I guess we fish for wood - No for $..... The % of payback is very low.

[Greg_Cornish]

This is what Gene said.

He honestly doesn't have the exact percentage of pay back. Out of the entry fees The Hook pays for the BBQ, prizes, some rods, trophies, insurance and other items. Not all of the prizes are given to them and the rods he gives to the kids are at his expense.

Are the entry fees paid back 100% like some other tournaments? No.

He doesn't charge a late fee or a membership fee, he doesn't own the Marina and doesn't make money off of the launch ramp.

Most of the money that is not paid back goes into the TOC fund which is a non entry fee and a Tri Tip BBQ and more including cash pay back to the top 5.

If you're wanting to fish the Hook and see paybacks like ABA, WON and other pro team tournaments don't. It's a fun tournament and one to build your skills and learn what tournament fishing is all about and to get the ones that want to go on better prepared.

There are many that started out fishing the Hook beginning with himself. Even Ish Monroe fished the Hook Tournament when he was younger.

If you want to know more call him.

[fourbizzle]

I dont know the percentage, but my buddy and I won one a couple years back, we entered all options but did not get big fish. I believe there were 82 boats and we got a check for $750.

That was the first event of the year, and after that check, we didnt fish another event.

[tunaman]

As Greg said, it is not a big-money circuit... if you're looking for dollars go elsewhere. The entry fee is only $55 per team, so do the math... with all that they do there isn't a huge pot of money to split, and they pay down pretty far so that spreads the 'wealth'.

This is a lower-cost entry-level tournament circuit (although they certainly draw some good talent for sure) designed to be fun. Brotha Marty and Robert Juarez fished it together, and can attest to what it is all about. I have been to many of the weigh-ins since I moved here, and it is always a very good production.

Roger

[kb]

You have alot tournaments to choose from down on the Delta and if you are ready to compete with the "Delta Rats" bring your happy butt down with your checkbook and they will lighten it for ya.

If you are looking for a circuit to fish that gets you started tournament fishing, meets some great guys and gals and gets you on the water each month the Hook Series is probably for you.

When most of the tackle shops in the area are closed on Sunday's Gene and the crew are down there putting on a great event. This is not a non profit organization but I see his name everywhere when it comes to donations and help bringing events to the Delta.

Support the Hook tournaments they are the future of our sport and the grassroots events that bring anglers into it.

kb

[jrbasspro]

Roger and Kent

you both hit it right on the head!!!!!!!!!

Walt

[Phil]

Roger and Kent

you both hit it right on the head!!!!!!!!!

Walt

+2

[2ndsuks]

If you're wanting to fish the Hook and see paybacks like ABA, WON don't.

I don't know, if you throw in the BBQ and prizes, the Hook is right there!

[scott h]

Who cares! it is a spectacular tournament circuit with an entry under a hundred bucks per team. It,s all about the experience, freinds and fishing a well run event,not about winning truckloads of money.

[Trackerbass]

The Hook is not the only low cost, amature level series on the delta. To make an informed decision on which to choose, you need the information. I, personally , prefer a decent chance at getting my money back. I'm not looking to get rich but to make my hobby pay for itself . I mean no offense to Gene and his circuit. But, it's NOT the only game in town, without going "pro".

[Cooch]

The Hook is not the only low cost, amature level series on the delta.

In 1984, Alan Sprague & I fished our first Hook Tournament at Big Break while Big Al Anthony ran the shop down there and the events. Entry fee then, was $35. Today's event costs you $55. They drew 70-100 boats then and still do today. You do the math and figure the cost increase over a 25 year period! Sponsor give aways, a free BBQ at each event as well as a free TOC is stil the rule.

The Hook event was then, and is still today, the best "Grass Roots" tournament circuit around these parts. It ain't about the "pot of gold", the money and glory. If that is yer deciding factor in whether you chose to enter their events or not, let me be the first to loud and clearley inform you, look somewhere else!

As in all competitive sports, one's ego tends to git the best part of their valor, competative bass fishing is not different. It is long fergotten that a day on the water is supposed to be fun and not driven by the egos, bright lights, politics, attitudes and cut throat antics that go along with $$$ driven decissions to fish events. He's not been ammune or free from the pressured by a small select few, but Gene has stuck to the root cause of his predecessors with The Hook events and has not succumbed to those few who want to see big pay backs. No regulars ever complain, and there are more guys fishing this eevnt 25 years later, than in any other cuircuit I know of. Kinda funny how it's always the outsider, or first timer that happens into an event and does well, who are the ones who end up doing all the complaining about payback. They simply do not understand what The Hook series is all about.

It's about the numbers, the comraderie, the braggin rights on the local pond by the locals. It's about taking a kid, yer son, daughter, wife, dad or neighbor out fishing and having a spectacular day submerged in competition. If you for an instant, think about the money you can potentially make at one of these events, yer headed to the wrong event.

Kinda nice ta look back on this one and use that old cliche, "SOME THINGS NEVER CHANGE!" Kudos Gene!

[kb]

Nice Cooch...............that is what I was trying to say


kb

[Cooch]

Nice Cooch...............that is what I was trying to say
kb

I know, I figured ya had Gary in one ear taping the next show as ya was writing yer response! So I filled in the gaps for ya! HAR! HAR! HAR!

[Mike Reidy]

I have fished in the first two tournaments for the 2009/10 season. I am new to this circuit and wish to say that this has been a great time and a very friendly experience. These tournaments are well run by Gene from the Hook, Line and Sinker. The Russo's are unbelievablly well organized and helpful. The Oakley chamber people volunteer help with the hotdog bar-b-que. There is a raffle for all the contestants under 16 with prizes for all. At the awards afterwards which are done quickly by the way the top teams give a very good idea as to what they found and did for their success on that given day. I quess what I am trying to say is that if you want to enjoy a day of competitive fishing and learn while doing so with the chance to maybe win a couple bucks this is a great deal and a lot of fun.

Mike Reidy

[DAN]

Trackerbass is reffering to Tracy Oasis tournaments, not nearly the depth in history the Hook events have but fun still the same.

[Greg_Cornish]

...I believe there were 82 boats and we got a check for $750.

Over 10 times the entry fee? Cool.

[texas john]

The entry and options and launch is up to about 80 bucks and winning and big fish we got back $850 for this last tournament, so like Greg stated over a ten time payback on your entry fees is not to bad. But to me this series has proved to be more of a learing the Delta, meeting people and learing the ropes of tournaments, and fishing with guys like Tom Lutz is worth its weight in gold. You can hire a guide for a couple hundred $$ for the day or find an Delta stick that is looking for a partner for this series and fish with them, you spend gas money and entry fees but learn more over the course of a series then you will ever from a day with a guide.

Just my 0.02

[Levy]

Just so you all know there is another option for a great amateur series on the Delta that offers everything and much more then the hook series. I am not bashing Gene or the hook series I am just letting folks know there are other options.

Give the Tracy Bass series a shot. They have both a Saturday and Sunday series and you won't find better people then the folks that run and participate in this series. Plus they pay back 100% to the anglers. I do not know how it gets any better then that!!!!

From the tracy bass website "Tracy Bass is dedicated to the amateur tournament fisherman. We want to promote learning, unity and sportsman ship."

Check them out and see for yourself. http://www.tracyoasismarina.com/id3.html

Owe yeah, the team that won the last tracy bass tournament won a lot more then 10 times thier entry and there was less then half the number of boats then were at the hook.

[DeltaDan]

If you start thinking about it !!! You will not fish the hook.
I guess we fish for wood - No for $..... The % of payback is very low.

Look these pic's over -- before you can honestly say that "The % of payback is very low".



~~> http://hookproshop.com/photos0209.aspx

[Levy]

DD I looked and the % of payback is still very low

[TonyL]

"and you won't find better people then the folks that run and participate in this series. "

Thats where your wrong ! We already fish and attend the best-Gene's Hook series has been around for 25 yrs.-That speaks for itself ! There's no body hear with pressure sales.The Hook tourneys longetivity at the best launch facilities says it all !

[Levy]

TonyL we can agree to disagree. As I said before I am not bashing the hook tourneys, I just want folks to know there are other options out there.

Tracy Oasis has a excellent launch ramp as well as a very fine tackle shop.

FYI, there is a Tracy amateur tourny on the Sat the 7th or Sunday the 22nd. Come and try one and decide for yourself. Heck why not do both!!!

[lunker punker]

TonyL we can agree to disagree. As I said before I am not bashing the hook tourneys, I just want folks to know there are other options out there.

Tracy Oasis has a excellent launch ramp as well as a very fine tackle shop.

FYI, there is a Tracy amateur tourny on the Sat the 7th or Sunday the 22nd. Come and try one and decide for yourself. Heck why not do both!!!

if all you wanted to do was let us all know of an alternative then why not post a thread about tracy bass tournaments and leave the hook out of it? Strange way of letting us know of alternatives. If tracy bass is that good it will draw boats by itself without having to compare it to the hook and attempt to lure its anglers away. I really dont see brentwood and oakley anglers driving to tracy to fish a tourney when russos is right there. Nothing wrong with the tracy bass tournies. This was just a bad approach to inform us. I have fished tracy bass several times and will again in the future. I just get sick and tired of the speechs at the weigh ins about Gene and the hook. Its unprofessional and in poor taste. Obviously Gene has somthing that terry wants and covets. Do it as long and well gene has and Tracy oasis will succeed without refering to and shadowing THE HOOK.