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This stuff is roughly half the price of just about everything else out there. Is it therefore inferior? Is a $20 spool of Brand A absolutely better than a $10 spool of Vanish?
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I started out using Vanish, and had few real problems with it, especially the lighter test weights for spinning gear..The biggest problem I had was it didn't seem to last as long (deterioration due to age) as some of the other brands..I have since switched to Trilene 100% flouro on almost all of my reels, except those I have braid on..The price is about the same and I get longer use time before needing to change it out..

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I have been using the vanish for years now and haven't had any problems. I use 6lbs for drop shoting all the way up to 20lbs for flippin. I only use the gold color. I tried the red and it seemed a little stiff to me.
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I started using Vanish when it first came out and thought it was pretty good. With the introduction of other lines I have now taken it off my shelves at the Hook and quit using it myself. It does not hold up near as long as the rest of the flourols. I don't recommend it.
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I still use it for cranks and blades - and that is about it. As noted it just doesnt stand up like the other fluros, it isnt as abrasion resistant, and I seem to retie more often with it. - with the cranks and blades I am retieing often anyway so I choose to use the cheaper stuff. If you can still find the Stren 100% fluor for cheap that stuff was great!
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I like it and the price is right compared to most. I can honestly say that I have'nt had a problem with it, it's also nice you can pick it up at Wal-mart if you run out and need it ASAP.
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I never lost a fish on it and caught an 8 on it flipping when one of my guides was shaving it.
However the BPS flouro is only a few dollars more and is rated much higher than the package says. IE 10 is like 13lb and its diameter is that of 8lb.
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In my experience, I have seen too many break offs with Vanish. I'll pay more and use Invizx.
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I won a bulk spool of 10lb flouro transition.. spooled up to reels and both broke off.. the spool of flouro is somewhere on lake perris's island if someone wants to go look for it.

it breaks a lot for me and I noticed that the line seemed to swell up after a day on the water. if you are fishing for money or big fish, dont get cheated over a few bucks.

I bet if you guys had a 10lb bass on the line and someone offered to upgrade your line during the fight for 10 bucks you sure would.

Losing a giant bass or a check isnt worth 10 bucks to me. it blows my mind that people fork out big cash to fish tournaments but wont step up 10 dollars to get good line. :roll:
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Sorry Dan the line you are trying to sell is worse then Vanish. There was a previous post about Vicious.
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Gene whens the last time you used Vanish? Are these the same guys complaining about the Palomar knot? The guys that use a dry knot and pull it fast and hard then they compromise the knot?

Sorry but I used Vanish in the worst conditions and it held up fine. I still use a palomar knot too and it works if you wet it and pull slow.

I can break just about any line if I tie the knot wrong.
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Gene Buchholz wrote:Sorry Dan the line you are trying to sell is worse then Vanish. There was a previous post about Vicious.
Is that possible?

Its the line you want the other competitors to use when fishing a tournament.

I recommend using a higher quality line with a backing. Only spool what you need. This will cut your cost and allow you to benefit from the extra performance that a high quality line offers over the cheap stuff.
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i can tell you this...i'm done buying expensive line for dropshotting and for spinning rods. there is so much line twist that you can't use it for more than a couple of trips. I HATE LINE TWIST!
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I started with Vanish and went away from it completly and tried the other more expensive floro's. Yes they are awesome and they hold up well!

In my opinion vanish clear florocarbon is almost as good as any other that is why ive been back using it now for the last 2 yrs. I purchase Vanish in 6#, 8# and 10# in the bulk spool which makes even less expensive and easier to use. I dont think Ive ever lost a fish due to the line itself failing.

Its a good line that has superior castability and descent abraision that is easy on your wallet.

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I used this when it first came out and it actually made me turn away from flourocarbon, it took me a couple more years before both my brother and I jumped back on the flourocarbon band wagon.

We both now use the Berkley 100% flourocarbon, as well as many other of the nations top pro's. The berkley knot is one of the bet knots for flour, I had the chance to play with one of those knot testing machines while back at the forest wood cup and the guy running the demonstration actually showed the flaw that can happen in the palamor knot. It is extremly hard to see.

With the flourocarbons, limited stretch, it will actually cut into itself if the lines are crossed running through the eye. I used to rarely break mono. But I really liked the sensitivity of flourocarbon and the thoughts of getting solid hook ups, especially on far casts. Made me convert to Flourocarbon.

I feel that the Berkley 100% floro is a great product as well as many other flouros out there, Unfortuanatly I do not feel that the Vanish is nearly as strong or durable. I set the hook hard and until the past two years I was consistanly having my knot break or slip out with flourocarbon, at least two times per day. Until I was showed the Berkley knot.
I have also helped friends learn to tie new knots because they two were breaking off fish on the hookset. and didnt realize it was the knot.

If your line comes back with a little curl at the end, you had knot failure, the majority of hookset breakoffs, is unfortuanatly knot failure.
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Vanish and Vicious are both good lines, they both experienced some problems when they first went into production..There are better lines out there than either, but for their price they can be tough to beat..It really is all about what you want out of your line..Some may be better for limpness, some for castability, some for abrasion resistance..Some have better knot strength than others..As one poster said to save yourself some money put backing on your spool and only use flouro to fill the top half..If you do a lot of retieing this may not always be a good way to go..

I still have at least one reel with Vanish on it (spinning reel), but when I replace it, it will be with Trilene 100% flouro..

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I believe the question is (was) is a $20 spool better than a $10 spool of Vanish? Answer, ah, Yeah. No question, and in most cases twice as good in my opinion.

When it comes to fluorocarbon, you get what you pay for, though Trilene 100% is a huge improvement. Interesting that this came about after OTG Pure Fishing purchased Stren......just a thought.

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birdi23nls wrote:i can tell you this...i'm done buying expensive line for dropshotting and for spinning rods. there is so much line twist that you can't use it for more than a couple of trips. I HATE LINE TWIST!
use braid and a uni to uni flouro leader
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get gamma flouro. little expensive but its on sale at TW i believe or is it just the gama copolymer
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DanIsaac wrote:I believe the question is (was) is a $20 spool better than a $10 spool of Vanish? Answer, ah, Yeah. No question, and in most cases twice as good in my opinion.

When it comes to fluorocarbon, you get what you pay for, though Trilene 100% is a huge improvement. Interesting that this came about after OTG Pure Fishing purchased Stren......just a thought.

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Stay away from Vanish. I heard Vanish Transition is better than the regular, but I don't even want to try after bad experience with Vanish. If you want to stay with a Berkley product, go for their 100% fluoro. It's like night and day. If you don't want to pay as much, go for Bass Pro Shops' fluoro. It's a good alternative and much better than Vanish.
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I use it and it lets me down just as much as the other stuff I've tried. Bad knots Break, no matter how much you pay for line.

I will agree, it doesn't last as long as some of the others and if you get a good backlash and you have to pick the knot out, I wouldn't trust that part of the line.

Sorry Dan, I'm pretty opened minded and I gave that Vicious stuff a fair try-NEVER AGAIN!
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birdi23nls wrote:i can tell you this...i'm done buying expensive line for dropshotting and for spinning rods. there is so much line twist that you can't use it for more than a couple of trips. I HATE LINE TWIST!
next time you buy expensive line, buy some small spro swivels and place a swivel two feet above your hook. Problem solved.
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some guy wrote:
birdi23nls wrote:i can tell you this...i'm done buying expensive line for dropshotting and for spinning rods. there is so much line twist that you can't use it for more than a couple of trips. I HATE LINE TWIST!
next time you buy expensive line, buy some small spro swivels and place a swivel two feet above your hook. Problem solved.
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I haven't used Vanish for about 2 years. Mike K. gave me some when it first came out and I liked it. As time went on it seemed it changed, it would not hold up and would break very easy. I'm know using Trilene 100% flouro and love it.
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tunaman wrote:
some guy wrote:
birdi23nls wrote:i can tell you this...i'm done buying expensive line for dropshotting and for spinning rods. there is so much line twist that you can't use it for more than a couple of trips. I HATE LINE TWIST!
next time you buy expensive line, buy some small spro swivels and place a swivel two feet above your hook. Problem solved.
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'nough said.

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tried the swivel...but with the worm and the wieght and the swivel the line beneath the rod tip is way to long while casting for my liking. It is pissing me off more than the line twist.

I have some braid for the job....i will give it a try...what kind of braid and what size would you use?
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birdi23nls wrote:I have some braid for the job....i will give it a try...what kind of braid and what size would you use?
I use both Power Pro and Spiderwire Stealth, both with great success. For typical finesse applications, 10# works great and will attach to leaders from 4# - 12#, at least.

The braid on my Steez and PTi reels (Stealth and Power Pro, respectively) is three years old and still going strong.

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I use 10-20 lb. Doesnt really matter as 10=4lb mono 20=6lb mono.

I fish a lot in the east so Its nice to have a good braid to tie directly to a wacky or shaky and throw to grass or pads so I use 20lb.

Use a 3-5ft leader and it will never hit your guides either. Best thing. BRAID CAN'T TWIST!!

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Tackle tour has done some comparisons of the top lines, you should check it out on their site.
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Rbass519 wrote:Tackle tour has done some comparisons of the top lines, you should check it out on their site.
Except they used TRANSITION. Not the cheaper Vanish clear. Huge difference in the lines.
If they had used the Vanish Clear that is 9.99 they would have a point
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Wouldn't use it for free. I throw it away when I get it as prize or purchase incentive.
Prefer Sunline, P-Line fluoro and a few others. Vanish is the only thing that goes directly to the trash.
It hasn't seemed worth it to spool it up again and find out if it got better---I did that a few times years ago.
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I currently Use either Vanish or P-line on most of my rods, partly because I'd won a bunch at a raffle (both brands), and I'd been using them prior to the rafle too.

I don't really have a problem with line wear in the abrasion sense, but to get snags and kinks in the line, when compared to the more limp mono. I've had no problems with knots unless I use fish atractants, and if you sear the line on the knot or glue its bomb proof.

The Berklley 100% is probably the best all around line, but not overwhelmingly.
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