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So Saturday I think I am going to venture into Big Break. I have never been there before just due to fear of taking out my lower unit. The paper map I have show the area as being littered with wrecks and humps etc... so my question is what is the best way to access Big break come up the back side from piper slough stay along the outside walls and plop the TM down and go fishin or do you run the boat on the inside of the break?
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Ash - have run BB many times and with many different people nad have never had a problem.
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Big break has allot of sandbars ect.. I would price a lower unit before before venturing in there. Gator is just lucky he aint hit nothin yet.
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The wind may be a factor out there Ash, I wouldn't waste my time :lol: !

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Don't be afraid to explore new areas. There are some places that will cause you some problems, just proceed with caution. Most of the obstacles are around the places with breaks and around old barges. Just idle around these places until you know the water. Be careful t high tide and notice where the obstacles are at low tide.


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I have fished Big Break thousands of times and have never hit anything. Just be careful.
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I have fished Big Break fer 30+, and I still hit new stuff out there all the time. You need to be cautious in there, especially in areas around the west and south bowls. These areas are indeed shallow, and a pattered with many sunken, often unseen wrecks. Out in the middle, it's wide open, there are a couple of old trees and an old boiler ship, all of which are visable at high tide, and typically you can see cormorants or pelicans hangin out on em.

The most dangerous area is at the west end along the parimiter of the San Jaquine River, there are a lot of old pylons and big wrecks here that can be hidden by the high tides, low tides, expose everything out there. Best advice I can give ya Ash, is never be within 100 yards of the inner tulles edges while on pad, until ya become familure with the area. Come off pad and idle around when yer that close to the inner edges of the flooded lake. The entire south bowl can be very weedy at times, it's also very shallow. Right now, the weeds are not too bad versus a typical year.

There is a very shallow sandbar at the west as ya come to the right out of the Marina, just past the SS Minnow and Gilligan's Island. There is also two more very shallow sandbars at the fer east end, one comes out from the last tule point right there at the nameless creek, the other is just inside the east opening past the pole and wreck. These are very dangerous areas on the low tides!!!!! Sometimes it's a lot safer to run around Dutch on the outer edge versus right down the center when the tide is bottomed out. These are really only 100-200 yard bars so it's not so bad. Also, right out in front of the shute, coming out of the Big Break Marina, there is a giant tule island in the main river, this area is also very, very shallow on the low tides and many boats get stranded out there on the bottom of the tide.
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Thanks guys I appreciate the looking out. I figured its time to start lookin at new (to me ) areas of the Delta and expanding out.
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Nobody mentioned seagull island--if ya find that, its to late--its on the south side--ive seen cowlings come off when that bad boy gets hit--now ash when ya figure out the break, venture west to sherman island, that will really scare the heck out of you--it took me 3 yrs to learn it---xman
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Cooch wrote:There is a very shallow sandbar at the west as ya come to the right out of the Marina, just past the SS Minnow and Gilligan's Island.
Yup... found that one this year at low tide... fortunately i didn't mess anything up! :shock:
XMAN wrote:now ash when ya figure out the break, venture west to sherman island, that will really scare the heck out of you--it took me 3 yrs to learn it---xman
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ash just be careful. The tide is going to be almost bottomed out in the morning. I would follow coochies advice and run around dutch on the perimeter and idle into the break wherever you plan to fish. I would be very careful on the west end by all of the wrecks. Even idling in, you can really do some damage (I have experience in this). :shock: :?
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Cooch wrote:I have fished Big Break fer 30+, and I still hit new stuff out there all the time. You need to be cautious in there, especially in areas around the west and south bowls. These areas are indeed shallow, and a pattered with many sunken, often unseen wrecks. Out in the middle, it's wide open, there are a couple of old trees and an old boiler ship, all of which are visable at high tide, and typically you can see cormorants or pelicans hangin out on em.

The most dangerous area is at the west end along the parimiter of the San Jaquine River, there are a lot of old pylons and big wrecks here that can be hidden by the high tides, low tides, expose everything out there. Best advice I can give ya Ash, is never be within 100 yards of the inner tulles edges while on pad, until ya become familure with the area. Come off pad and idle around when yer that close to the inner edges of the flooded lake. The entire south bowl can be very weedy at times, it's also very shallow. Right now, the weeds are not too bad versus a typical year.

There is a very shallow sandbar at the west as ya come to the right out of the Marina, just past the SS Minnow and Gilligan's Island. There is also two more very shallow sandbars at the fer east end, one comes out from the last tule point right there at the nameless creek, the other is just inside the east opening past the pole and wreck. These are very dangerous areas on the low tides!!!!! Sometimes it's a lot safer to run around Dutch on the outer edge versus right down the center when the tide is bottomed out. These are really only 100-200 yard bars so it's not so bad. Also, right out in front of the shute, coming out of the Big Break Marina, there is a giant tule island in the main river, this area is also very, very shallow on the low tides and many boats get stranded out there on the bottom of the tide.

I have fished BB for 30 years too. I think if you payed more attention to the the things around you ,that you would not hit things all the time. Please watch where you are going so you don't get hurt.
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Lol I meant Dutch not Piper -see what a NB I am out there :shock:

Thanks for the input guys, I think I am going to go the dutch side and just get out on the TM and look around. The great part is I my neighbor is going out with me and we are running his boat :lol:

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meanstick wrote: I have fished BB for 30 years too. I think if you payed more attention to the the things around you ,that you would not hit things all the time. Please watch where you are going so you don't get hurt.
30 years fishing the break and that's the best you have to offer ? :roll:
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I second that Iafrate............
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Iafrate94505 wrote:
meanstick wrote: I have fished BB for 30 years too. I think if you payed more attention to the the things around you ,that you would not hit things all the time. Please watch where you are going so you don't get hurt.
30 years fishing the break and that's the best you have to offer ? :roll:
It's okay guys, Meanstick is only echoing precisely what my point was, be careful. What it sounds like is he hasn't figure out in 30 years though, is if'n ya ain't explorin' in the deepest, dirtiest, farthest places in the Break, that most neglect to fish, and don't bump into ta something with yer trolling motor, skeg or hull as yer fishing along, yer not finding all the lil gold mines that The Break has ta offer. Either that, or his ego just got fed thinkin he can take pokes at me hiding behind a fictitious name. I actually too, think it's quite funny, but hey, I'm used ta that from the old time Delta Rats, what else is new? HAR! HAR! HAR!
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A wise man once told me to "kick a field goal" between the two stacks going west to stay safe. It has always worked for me so far.
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when im fishing the wreaks i come off pad about 200 yards away and always from the east. Trolling motor up to the wreaks with my motor trimmed out of the water. I ahve seen a few guys running through the and smak you hear that awful sound.
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when i'm tubing the BREAK you ought to see what my feet bump into--ash here's a hint, learn it on the low and listen to what every inch tells you----xman
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I always wanted to rent a jet ski to scout out new shallow water.

The Bass fishing guys would ignore me, and I could look around for hazards, or fish holding cover.

No lower unit to destroy, I can push off if aground or hung up on a log. No troller to ruin either.

I have borrowed the local Fire dept's latest Honda to conduct levee damage survey reports and it was awesome. You could really four wheel over driftwood, and shoot over fallen trees. :D

Came up with the idea after running aground fishing in the south outta River's End. You can come to a stop pretty abruptly.

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Yeah Andy, try running up Sugar Cut in the dark about 10 o'clock at night trying to find threadfin shad for the Trap...Once you went in that slot, you had to keep it on pad until we hit the ski course or nets they laid up there on the big left hand turn...Looking back, we took a lot of chances...

If they could make a quiet jet-ski type craft with a trolling motor, it would be a cool way to get around for bass fishing with the price of gas nowadays...Maybe Irwin Jacobs will surprise us, huh?...For now, it's a kayak for me...Yeah, Hank Parker looks pretty cool in that Hobie Kayak you foot paddle on his commercials... No gas bills, free launching, and you can sneak up on them within 5 ft...And, you can go where no boats have been and lose a few pounds paddling...The Break, here I come...Say hi to Jerry and Butch...Would go to Rio Vista, but it kills me to pay $4 to go over that bridge... I remember $.50 for the bridge and $.97 a gallon for unleaded in Lodi...Would cost $ 50 to $60 a night to get bait at these prices...

What's up with the reports of black bass around the banks up there near the bridge?...

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Hey andy, you say if you use a jet ski and hit a sand bar you can just push off and move on--you may want to watch it if you do--i was tubing saturday and hit a mud bar i thought i could tube over in 6 in of water, WRONG!! or i should say it wasnt easy because it was about 1 foot of soft mud--so here i am with my 240 pound tush,in a tube, sitting on low tide, trying to stand up and walk about 20 ft which was funnier than heck, glad nobody was around to see this--i just sat on the mud and thought i was a 25p tempest-and finally got off--you will not be able to walk very easy in one ft of mud believe me--so hope for a mix of hard and soft----xman
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