Flouro Recommendations

[Guy Williams]

I like sportfisher brand. Strong and cheap!!
Guy Williams

[mark poulson]

The only time I've had fluoro fail between the rod and the lure is when I've repeatedly cast with a buried loop that gets weakened by the continuous flapping against the reel during the cast. It's either abraded, or weakened by the friction, or both.
It used to happen often with Sunline. Not as much with BPS, but it can still happen.
That's why it's important to take the time to pick out any buried loops when you first see or feel them, and not wait for a more "convenient" time.
I fish alone a lot, and manage to do it while still controlling the boat with the TM. I may curse, but I do it. It's the price you pay for what I consider to be a line that's much more sensitive than mono. It's the only line that I can feel a tick on a slack line.
Line conditioner, like the KVD stuff, helps, but fluoro will backlash more than mono, so it's important to keep an eye on your line, and not let a loop turn into a disaster.

[drew]

The Montreal Protocol has to do with the use of the flouro gases used in refrigerants and not the manufacturing of fluoropolymers. There are many companies producing PVDF resins in the US.

Things seem to be getting a testy.
One reason fluorocarbon products are not manufactured in the US is the Montreal Protocol. DuPont sold the Stren plant to Vicious Fishing.
The question if FC line is good or bad, depends on several factors that have been discussed; poor knots being the number 1 issue. If you change your line regularly and tie good quality knots, brand becomes a personal choice.
I brought up the line diameter issue and that doesn't seem to bother anyone. If I was marketing FC line and know one cares about what the diameter is, why not label 14 lb as 10 lb or 25 lb as 20 lb, my line would be stronger. That is exactly what Trilene and others have done!
The problem where I fish is the bass don't strike my lures as often with larger diameter line, so my choice is to use 10 lb line that has 10 lb diameter, not 10 lb FC line with 16 lb diameter.
My argument is simple; the FC line fails between rod tip and the water, not at the knot. This has happen several times with different FC line mfr's. This type of failure never occurs with Mono and rarely with FC /mono hybrids.
Tom

[Oldschool]

Drew, the Montreal Protocol is being enforced in steps and new regulations go into affect soon. The cost of changing plants over to met the regulations is extremely expensive; GE Plastics was sold and DuPont has sold several of thier US plants discontinuing some products; Hypalon (CSPE) for example is used for several rubber products was discontinued this year, impacting US weapon systems production. Fluorocarbon based thermoplastics are also affected and will have an impact on FC line production in the states as costs of imported materials will go up.
We manufacturer several product lines that use fluoro base polymers and other engineering thermoplastics in California and well aware of the regulations.
When someone comes out with the panacea of FC line, I will be first in line to buy some.
Tom

[Steve Perkins]

Anything but Vanish.

True, tie it on and your fish Vanish......

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[j10b]

No, I don't need to play word games, seems that was your choice of topics and direction here not mine. There was no point that I stated Trilene 100% was the best either, that was your twist. I think it's purty clear to everyone here but you, exactly what I stated, it's the number 1 used Fluoro by touring pros.

And yes, I have used just about every Fluoro out there and have been using fluoro lines ever since I first used it at the 1998 Shasta Bassmaster Open. Some I've paid for, most I've been given samples of to try. So ta answer yer question fully, I've used enough brands of Fluoro to make a fair opinion as to what I'd personally recommend and use myself.

It's just an opinion, git over yerself.

Why are you so offended? I didnt mean to offend you by stating that Pure Fishing gets their resins elsewhere.
I think you are saying that trilene is the best based on what the pro's use? You are respected enough that you don't need to say "use what the pro's use" And it is a word game when you twist a definition of a word to make it seem that Pure Fishing makes everything in house.
So what is a person supposed to think when the top pros use it.... that its the 3rd best out there? They just like to flirt with losing 100K because they dont want to use the best? Nope, you were insinuating that Trilene was the best hence the top pros are using it.
I can say I didnt raise taxes on you when I force taxes on business that pass it on to you. At the end of the day you lose money on the purchase. Point: You dont have to call it the best to word your opinion as if the top people use it...therefore its the best. No one at the top of their game is going to use an inferior product. Trouble is guys in fishing pimp anything for the paycheck.
Unless of course, you had some other meaning.

I dont know why the brand matters so much in so many cases. But make sure you( not directed at you Cooch) get a plug in every chance you( not directed at you Cooch) get. Frankly I think you can put a bunch of Fluoro against each other and the trilene will fit right in with the crowd. It just gets tiring to read in every post about a new product someone has to pimp their favorite sponsor.
KVD uses Bass Pro, Skeet might not be using Trilene next year, E2 uses BPS, Butcher used sunline last time I was near his boat. The list goes on. Just you know the next line deal with be the greatest line ever used.




Take your own advice Its an opinion get over yourself.

[j10b]

The only time I've had fluoro fail between the rod and the lure is when I've repeatedly cast with a buried loop that gets weakened by the continuous flapping against the reel during the cast. It's either abraded, or weakened by the friction, or both.
It used to happen often with Sunline. Not as much with BPS, but it can still happen.
That's why it's important to take the time to pick out any buried loops when you first see or feel them, and not wait for a more "convenient" time.
I fish alone a lot, and manage to do it while still controlling the boat with the TM. I may curse, but I do it. It's the price you pay for what I consider to be a line that's much more sensitive than mono. It's the only line that I can feel a tick on a slack line.
Line conditioner, like the KVD stuff, helps, but fluoro will backlash more than mono, so it's important to keep an eye on your line, and not let a loop turn into a disaster.

+1 I have even used Vanish and if you take care of it and tie your knots right you will do well.

I personally like Fluoro with a smaller diameter than mono. Trilene can't and they tried it with Vanish and feel on their face. Fluoro has many more benefits than sensitivity. The biggest is diameter and strength from the good companies. I would take that over sensitivity.

[jazzwannabe]

The only time I've had fluoro fail between the rod and the lure is when I've repeatedly cast with a buried loop that gets weakened by the continuous flapping against the reel during the cast. It's either abraded, or weakened by the friction, or both.
It used to happen often with Sunline. Not as much with BPS, but it can still happen.
That's why it's important to take the time to pick out any buried loops when you first see or feel them, and not wait for a more "convenient" time.
I fish alone a lot, and manage to do it while still controlling the boat with the TM. I may curse, but I do it. It's the price you pay for what I consider to be a line that's much more sensitive than mono. It's the only line that I can feel a tick on a slack line.
Line conditioner, like the KVD stuff, helps, but fluoro will backlash more than mono, so it's important to keep an eye on your line, and not let a loop turn into a disaster.

I have stopped using flouro on my baitcasters because of this and have switched to P-Line CX. Backlashes happen, and with flouro it's a hell of a lot harder to pick them out. Even if you do, the line is going to have kinks. Can't trust it after that.

Spinning reels, no sweat. I have never, ever had a breakoff or knot failure. Most guys complain about flouro problems on spinning reels, but for me it's the opposite.

[Delaney]

Quite frankly there is so much B/S about fishing lines that I don't believe anything I read. It's totally unregulated and line manufacturers can literally say anything they want, and boy do they. I worked in a testing lab that had the equiptment that line manufacturers use for their testing, so I know a lot about this kind of stuff.

You never see these companies divulge all their physical properties for comparison. Their lb. test as marked on the package is all over the place. I even offered to help a web-site that was putting out bad comparisons that were frankly meaningless, and they never responded. I would guess that they would use their positive comparisons of testing to create ad revenue. Sad, but probably true.