Golden mussels might be a good thing....

[Whoopbass]

A few days ago I was speaking with someone that is knowledgeable on the golden mussel issue. They told me something very obvious when you see what is happening to our freedom. There is 0.0% interest in preserving opportunity for recreation boaters. None Zip Nada. Keeping the mussels out of the water and hydro infrastructure is the only goal. It will be interesting to see where we are in a few years.

-This has nothing to do with our freedom, and nobody making money as some have implied with this issue.

Yes, it makes sense to focus objectives on eradication, prevention methods and processes to mitigate further contamination (if possible). After all, protection of water delivery systems in hundreds of billions in cost, storage, and quality will take precedent over catching a fish on the weekend or tournaments.

The primary source of water is for delivery and storage as a vital resource for supply/irrigation, and not recreation.
As an avid recreational and tournament angler this situation is devastating as these restrictions imposed on fisherman and pleasure boaters impact our pass time.

I suggest developing "solutions" that restores some of those pleasures of traveling from different bodies of water to continue enjoying our hobbies/competition verses complaining about it.

This invasive mussel issue is here to stay and will get worse.

How about show me that they are actually here. We had a report of some divers that claimed they saw them in the port of Stockton. Then we have two or three reports that claimed that some mysterious boat that was berthed in the delta that tried to launch at a couple lakes that are doing inspections. I'm calling horseshit. If and when they can confirm that the Goldern Mussel is here then I will be on board but all of this just seems so convenient to fit their water control stealing ways. It all just happened so fast. Show me and I will shut up.

[jiggin4bass]

Stealing water ? How do you do that can you tell us since your the expert. Who stealing it in the first place. Can you name the people that are stealing it.

[mark poulson]

Tunnels?
No worries.............

The mussels WILL jam/clog hundreds of tunnel miles and there's no way of keeping them out. Essentially, the tunnels are a breeding ground for these invasive species.

This is too big of a job for Roto -Rooter. It's a matter of time and the billions spent on tunnel infrastructure will be worthless.

-No conspiracy theory

Sounds like a job for...Superman! Hahaha

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A few days ago I was speaking with someone that is knowledgeable on the golden mussel issue. They told me something very obvious when you see what is happening to our freedom. There is 0.0% interest in preserving opportunity for recreation boaters. None Zip Nada. Keeping the mussels out of the water and hydro infrastructure is the only goal. It will be interesting to see where we are in a few years.

-This has nothing to do with our freedom, and nobody making money as some have implied with this issue.

Yes, it makes sense to focus objectives on eradication, prevention methods and processes to mitigate further contamination (if possible). After all, protection of water delivery systems in hundreds of billions in cost, storage, and quality will take precedent over catching a fish on the weekend or tournaments.

The primary source of water is for delivery and storage as a vital resource for supply/irrigation, and not recreation.
As an avid recreational and tournament angler this situation is devastating as these restrictions imposed on fisherman and pleasure boaters impact our pass time.

I suggest developing "solutions" that restores some of those pleasures of traveling from different bodies of water to continue enjoying our hobbies/competition verses complaining about it.

This invasive mussel issue is here to stay and will get worse.

How about show me that they are actually here. We had a report of some divers that claimed they saw them in the port of Stockton. Then we have two or three reports that claimed that some mysterious boat that was berthed in the delta that tried to launch at a couple lakes that are doing inspections. I'm calling horseshit. If and when they can confirm that the Goldern Mussel is here then I will be on board but all of this just seems so convenient to fit their water control stealing ways. It all just happened so fast. Show me and I will shut up.

we got the same ships going to the port of Sacramento, I'm sure they have to same ballast water being dumped and not hearing anything about them up that way..

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How about show me that they are actually here. We had a report of some divers that claimed they saw them in the port of Stockton. Then we have two or three reports that claimed that some mysterious boat that was berthed in the delta that tried to launch at a couple lakes that are doing inspections. I'm calling horseshit. If and when they can confirm that the Goldern Mussel is here then I will be on board but all of this just seems so convenient to fit their water control stealing ways. It all just happened so fast. Show me and I will shut up.

we got the same ships going to the port of Sacramento, I'm sure they have to same ballast water being dumped and not hearing anything about them up that way..
The bigger question for me is how long have they been here. They said they found them in oct and the pictures shown to us looks like they were 1 to 1 1/2 inches in size so we know they just didnt get that big in oct when found? My guess they been here for some time maybe years?? If that is the case all this effort in a mute point right ? Has anyone (state, local government) dove the lakes in question and looked around at house boats, docks, ramps ect ??

I talked to a guy standing on a dock in wind mill cove he said they are everywhere in there... I didn't see any while looking at the boats and docks...

[CrankyOne]

A few days ago I was speaking with someone that is knowledgeable on the golden mussel issue. They told me something very obvious when you see what is happening to our freedom. There is 0.0% interest in preserving opportunity for recreation boaters. None Zip Nada. Keeping the mussels out of the water and hydro infrastructure is the only goal. It will be interesting to see where we are in a few years.

-This has nothing to do with our freedom, and nobody making money as some have implied with this issue.

Yes, it makes sense to focus objectives on eradication, prevention methods and processes to mitigate further contamination (if possible). After all, protection of water delivery systems in hundreds of billions in cost, storage, and quality will take precedent over catching a fish on the weekend or tournaments.

The primary source of water is for delivery and storage as a vital resource for supply/irrigation, and not recreation.
As an avid recreational and tournament angler this situation is devastating as these restrictions imposed on fisherman and pleasure boaters impact our pass time.

I suggest developing "solutions" that restores some of those pleasures of traveling from different bodies of water to continue enjoying our hobbies/competition verses complaining about it.

This invasive mussel issue is here to stay and will get worse.

How about show me that they are actually here. We had a report of some divers that claimed they saw them in the port of Stockton. Then we have two or three reports that claimed that some mysterious boat that was berthed in the delta that tried to launch at a couple lakes that are doing inspections. I'm calling horseshit. If and when they can confirm that the Goldern Mussel is here then I will be on board but all of this just seems so convenient to fit their water control stealing ways. It all just happened so fast. Show me and I will shut up.

https://trpa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/mapvi ... c93aac007e

This website shows all the "alleged" confirmed sightings of the GM here in CA. Each red dot list info such as location, size and an image of sighting. One of the locations is in fishermans cut from a boat dock on 12/9/2024 using a surface survey. Anyone that fishes that cut knows there are several docks in that area. That being said, you should be able to go to any of these locations shown with a red dot and see GM in that area. The sighting notes the GM sizes ranged from 5-20mm. One source notes " During the first year, mussels typically grow to ~20 millimeters (25⁄32 in), reaching ~25–30 millimeters (63⁄64–1+3⁄16 in) at the end of the second year". With that being said the GM has been present at fishermans cut for a minimum of 12 months (since 12/23). I always launch out of Russo's and my next trip out I will be going to fishermans cut to look at every single dock. I will gladly post pictures if I see the GM's with my own "surface survey". I encourage everyone to check out the map and go investigate for yourself. There are so many "alleged locations" that there should be one near where you fish. Report back your findings and get involved.

[JVGondal]

Not doubting the presence but
How are they spread so far apart ?
I mean they find one single adult at a bridge and the another adult miles away. No clusters?
What does this mean

[Jboutfishn]

Not doubting the presence but
How are they spread so far apart ?
I mean they find one single adult at a bridge and the another adult miles away. No clusters?
What does this mean

Experts?