On immigration
On immigration
Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in
Texas.
Trying to reason with an Illegal Mexican!
This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master
of circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your
adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous
case gets too difficult to defend. On the streets of downtown Houston,
May 1, 2006.
Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:
Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are
marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is
your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?
Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We
will bring Houston to its knees!
Jim: What rights?
Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all the
benefits you get.
Jim: When did you come to the United States?
Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven
other friends.
Jim: Why did you come?
Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year
in Mexico. Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go
to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will
have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico!
Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you
came?
Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a
right to amnesty. I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green
Cards.
Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money too.
Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?
Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.
Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?
Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution.
Read it!
Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about
rights for Aliens.
Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien
rights, like the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico,
so I came here.
Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence
and that document speaks to unalienable rights .. Not Alien rights.
Juan: Whatever.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then
are you carrying a Mexican Flag?
Juan: Because I am Mexican.
Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty ... to become a US
citizen.
Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of
Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its
rightful owner.
Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After wining the war with
Mexico, Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the
USA. It was not stolen from Mexico.
Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California, New
Mexico and Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos
steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of thieves.
Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?
Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them all
over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us
Mexicans out.
How is this fair?
Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.
Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and
speak their native language wherever and whenever they please.
That's
another thing we demand. All signs and official documents should be in
Spanish . Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in
Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper
documentation, what rights would I have there?
Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's different.
Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live
wherever they please.
Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want
Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in
Mexico.
Why
would you want to go there anyway? There is no free medical service,
schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even
own land in my country. Stay in the country of your birth.
Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue.
Thank you for your comments.
Juan: Viva Mexico!
Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and
to every representative in the state and federal government. If you
choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it
will be "redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully
staying out of the "fray". Check history, it is full of nations/empires
that disappeared when its citizens no longer held their core beliefs
and values. One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one
plus one plus one plus one........
The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually
mean something, however, hasn't even begun.
If this ticks YOU off...PASS IT ON!
Texas.
Trying to reason with an Illegal Mexican!
This is good! Below is a good example of a discussion with a master
of circular logic. Don't be logical, don't respect the truth or your
adversary, just say what you think makes a new case when the previous
case gets too difficult to defend. On the streets of downtown Houston,
May 1, 2006.
Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:
Jim: Juan, I see that you and thousands of other protesters are
marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause. Exactly what is
your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?
Juan: We want our rights. We will show you how powerful we are. We
will bring Houston to its knees!
Jim: What rights?
Juan: Our right to live here...legally. Our right to get all the
benefits you get.
Jim: When did you come to the United States?
Juan: Six years ago. I crossed over the border at night with seven
other friends.
Jim: Why did you come?
Juan: For work. I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year
in Mexico. Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go
to school free, if I lose my job I will get Welfare, and someday I will
have the Social Security. Nothing like that in Mexico!
Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you
came?
Juan: No! Why should I feel bad? I have a right to be here. I have a
right to amnesty. I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green
Cards.
Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
Juan: From a guy in Dallas. He charged me a lot of money too.
Jim: Did you know that those documents were forged?
Juan: It is of no matter. I have a right to be here and work.
Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?
Juan: The right of all Aliens. It is found in your Constitution.
Read it!
Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about
rights for Aliens.
Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have Alien
rights, like the right to pursue happiness. I wasn't happy in Mexico,
so I came here.
Jim: I think you are referring to the declaration of Independence
and that document speaks to unalienable rights .. Not Alien rights.
Juan: Whatever.
Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then
are you carrying a Mexican Flag?
Juan: Because I am Mexican.
Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty ... to become a US
citizen.
Juan: No. This is not what we want. This is our country, a part of
Mexico that you Gringos stole from us. We want it returned to its
rightful owner.
Jim: Juan, you are standing in Texas. After wining the war with
Mexico, Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the
USA. It was not stolen from Mexico.
Juan: That is a Gringo lie. Texas was stolen. So was California, New
Mexico and Arizona. It is just like all the other stuff you Gringos
steal, like oil and babies. You are a country of thieves.
Jim: Babies? You think we steal babies?
Juan: Sure. Like from Korea and Vietnam and China. I see them all
over the place. You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us
Mexicans out.
How is this fair?
Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.
Juan: I just want my rights! Everyone has a right to live, work, and
speak their native language wherever and whenever they please.
That's
another thing we demand. All signs and official documents should be in
Spanish . Teachers must teach in Spanish. Soon, more people here in
Houston will speak Spanish than English. It is our right!
Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper
documentation, what rights would I have there?
Juan: None. You would probably go to jail, but that's different.
Jim: How is it different? You said everyone has the right to live
wherever they please.
Juan: You Gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want
Mexico too? Mexico has its rights. You Gringos have no rights in
Mexico.
Why
would you want to go there anyway? There is no free medical service,
schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you. You cannot even
own land in my country. Stay in the country of your birth.
Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue.
Thank you for your comments.
Juan: Viva Mexico!
Pass this along to every American citizen in your address books and
to every representative in the state and federal government. If you
choose to remain uninvolved, do not be amazed when you no longer have a nation to call your own nor anything you have worked for left since it
will be "redistributed" to the activists while you are so peacefully
staying out of the "fray". Check history, it is full of nations/empires
that disappeared when its citizens no longer held their core beliefs
and values. One person CAN make a difference. One plus one plus one
plus one plus one plus one........
The battle for our secure borders and immigration laws that actually
mean something, however, hasn't even begun.
If this ticks YOU off...PASS IT ON!
Re: On immigration
Its nice to know that this level of intelect is taking over
Friendship is like peeing in your pants, everyone can see it, but only you can feel the true warmth.
Re: On immigration
This is an actual interview? Cmon....You have got to be kidding-please? Charlie
Re: On immigration
wow. I hope people don't really feel this way. I cannot believe that people feel entitled to something that was paid for by tax payers. Do they think these "benifits" legal citizens recieve just freaking grow on trees? Like nobody pays for this stuff? The legal citizens who have worked and payed taxes in this country are the only reason there are any benifits at all. Screw anyone who wants to waltz in here and take from us what we have built.
It's like walking into a private club and demanding the services that paying members recieve and demanding them for free. Get out of here with that crap!
It's like walking into a private club and demanding the services that paying members recieve and demanding them for free. Get out of here with that crap!
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Re: On immigration
FWIW, snopes.com has classified this as undetermined as far as its veracity is concerned.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigrat ... erview.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigrat ... erview.asp
Kurt
Re: On immigration
made up, gator should be punnished and banned like the kitty and put into whooch time out~!
i wonder if there are any mexican advertisers? tee he he,,, just playin gator!
i wonder if there are any mexican advertisers? tee he he,,, just playin gator!
Re: On immigration
we need an idiot police to get rid of dumb people like that dude in the interview
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Re: On immigration
Joe W. wrote:wow. I hope people don't really feel this way. I cannot believe that people feel entitled to something that was paid for by tax payers. Do they think these "benifits" legal citizens recieve just freaking grow on trees? Like nobody pays for this stuff? The legal citizens who have worked and payed taxes in this country are the only reason there are any benifits at all. Screw anyone who wants to waltz in here and take from us what we have built.
It's like walking into a private club and demanding the services that paying members recieve and demanding them for free. Get out of here with that crap!
Yes they feel that way. I work in a place that is 90% hispanic. I'm sure that not all of them are documented some don't speak Eng.
But they feel they have every right to be here and we should bow to there ways.
Re: On immigration
A real interview my rear end!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I cant believe this nonsense was posted as if it were a real interview? If the immigrant position is so stupid, why fake an interview to try to add validity to your opposing point?
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Re: On immigration
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet, is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
Re: On immigration
Want to know about the problems of imagration..Ask a Native American..Think about it.
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Re: On immigration
I sent this out to a few co-workers and friends. Man!, you want to talk about some PO'd U.S. citizens.
I'm a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, but I'm affraid I may know some people that are ready to put it to work.
I'm a strong supporter of the Second Amendment, but I'm affraid I may know some people that are ready to put it to work.
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