Mono To Braid To Fluoro

[jwick22]

A question guys.

I have been using on my spinning reels.....2500 size and 2508 size reels, Backing them with Mono 10 pound, tying a Double Surgeons knot to 18 lb Toray Braid then my top shot of 4 to 7 lb Toray Fluoro.

So my question and problem.

Where the Mono and Braid knot connect when my line is coming off the spool sometimes if the knot is not toward the bottom of the spool the line will catch the knot on the way out. On long casts them comes into play more obviously. So I have to feed it over the knot so it doesn't keep catching.....Not sure if this makes sense to you guys.

I am referring to the mono braid knot on the spool.....Line is catching it when coming off the spool.

Any advice would help.....

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[Oldschool]

Tape over the mono to braid knot , spool, with Teflon plumbers tape, one to two wraps is all that is needed. If for some reson you need the line to run past the tape, it will cut through the tape, letting the mono play out.
Try Diawa Samurai 15 lb (0.007D) without a fluoro leader, works good if you are fishing deeper than 20'.
Tom
PS; tape the spool under the mono with masking or electrical tape to prevent the core or backing from spinning.

[civicrr]

If I read this right, your mono backing to braid main line knot is the one giving you problems.

How much backing do you have on the spool? You really only need three or so (complete) layers of mono for the backing. It needs to be just enough so the braid can 'grip' so it won't spin on the spool.

Last year @ this time, I was still using a lot of spinning gear. My main rod was set up with mono backing, braid & fluoro leader. This was on a Pflueger Supreme 8030. I used the uni-uni knot & didn't have issues.

I have heard that folks put a layer of electrical tape on the spool. They follow that with braid with no slippage issues. Never tried it myself.

[snapitoff2002]

Tape over the mono to braid knot , spool, with Teflon plumbers tape, one to two wraps is all that is needed. If for some reson you need the line to run past the tape, it will cut through the tape, letting the mono play out.
Try Diawa Samurai 15 lb (0.007D) without a fluoro leader, works good if you are fishing deeper than 20'.
Tom
PS; tape the spool under the mono with masking or electrical tape to prevent the core or backing from spinning.

Tom, this gives me an idea for what already happened to me today! I have a reel with a super slick surface on the spool that I blew up today.. I'll have to give this a try.

[Greg_Cornish]

No need to use mono backing. I was getting line spin on my braid when I tied directly to the reel. I took plain electrical tape two wraps around the spool and went braid directly from there. Never had a problem going on two years doing this.

[WishinIwerFishin]

I have never used braid on spinning gear but I have never experienced my braid spinning on the spool. I do spool my line as tight as I can(as tight as the rod can handle) and it grips the spool fine. Only recently have I been informed that I am supposed to use electrical tape. So on my new Curado 300E I tied the line to the spool like usual then put a piece of tape over it then spooled it up. As for you knot issue I would do as others have said just put a wrap or two of teflon tape over it and it should be good.

[MikeD]

http://www.insideline.net/articles/spin ... raided.htm

see chapter 4, addresses all your questions

[Oldschool]

Good artile by Gary Yamamoto, thanks for posting the link.
The tradtional set up; mono backing, superbraid joined by Uni knots and fluoro leader. Gary's trick to thumb nail the backing knot down into the mono is a good idea, I use Teflon tape to keep it from becoming a problem. Whatever works, do it.
In our clear deep western lakes, we believe a fluoro leader is a must, I know I did and it's logical. However try the smaller (0.007D) superbraids without a leader in water over 20 feet, you eleminate a leader knot and still get bit, give it try.
Tom

[jwick22]

Okay.....I have no problems with any slippage on the spool........

I am using mono backing because I use 2500 size spools and the Toray does not come close to feeling spools......I am using anywhere from 10 to 20 lb braid........

The problem....

When I put say 50 yards of mono on then tie the braid on the connection knot gets in the way when line is coming off.....It sticks out a little so line grans each time ot goes over it.....


Thanks

[2ndsuks]

A question guys.

tying a Double Surgeons knot to 18 lb Toray Braid then my top shot of 4 to 7 lb Toray Fluoro.

The knot is your problem.
Instead of tying a double surgeon try a single loop uni, just make sure to cinch the uni pretty tight and trim the tag ends close.

[Tin Can]

Maybe you could just use less mono backing so the knot is deeper on the spool.

[MikeD]

would agree that the Double Surgeons knot is your problem, pretty high standing profile on this knot

a uni-uni or a tony pena knot would be better. both lower height profile vs the double surgeon. trim the tag ends close. and maybe a few more yards of braid to help cover the knot. a resolvable problem regardless

[drew]

Instead of using 10# mono try 6# with a uni to uni knot and only pull the line through three times. Cut the ends short and use a tiny bit of superglue on the tag end of the braid. Andy