US Open Cheater?

S. Bailey · Post by **S. Bailey** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:23 pm

so we all know that Mike Hart is Guilty, but please wait to judge John Zanko. He will be demanding to take a lie detector test tomorrow to clear his name. Just wanted to put that out there before everybody starts judging. I cant believe this . Such a shame.

tripletrouttroy · Post by **tripletrouttroy** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:25 pm

I was enjoying my jack buzz till i read this.WOW Grandpa always said if there;s money involved there;s a CROOK INVOLVED

N.A.R · Post by **N.A.R** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:27 pm

gixxer464 wrote:Heres a list of some of this POS winnings taken from our pockets. Do the math.

American Bass
Date of First American Bass Tournament Fished: 7/29/1996
Total Number of Tournaments Fished: 103

Number of Tournament Cashes: 85

Career Cash Winnings: $37,103.00

Number of 1st Place Finishes: 10

Number of Top 5 Finishes: 44

Number of Top 10 Finishes: 61

Biggest Tournament Bass: 10.88

Total Number of Fish Weighed: 441

Total Weight of all Fish Weighed: 1,345.52

Anglers Choice
Castaic Lake-West Ramp 4/17/2010 MIKE HART NO PARTNER 5 5.62 19.33 $1,120.00
1 Castaic Main Ramp 3/28/2009 MIKE HART 5 7.4 23.54 $2,201.00
1 Castaic- Main Ramp 1/24/2009 MIKE HART 5 7.85 20.88 $2,562.00
1 Castaic West Ramp 8/9/2009 MIKE HART 5 3.31 16.02 $1,824.00
1 Castaic West Ramp 6/27/2009 MIKE HART 5 4.94 19.19 $2,769.00
2 Castaic West Ramp 5/23/2009 MIKE HART 5 4.17 16.48 $810.00
4 Castaic - Main Ramp 2/22/2009 MIKE HART 5 3.4 14.66 $412.00
3 LAKE CASITAS 8/2/2008 MIKE HART 5 6.77 22.49 $700.00
6 LAKE CASITAS 9/13/2008 MIKE HART 5 4.65 19.58 $0.00
8 LAKE CASITAS 2/16/2008 MIKE HART 5 3.47 12.71 $0.00
8 LAKE CASITAS 6/14/2008 MIKE HART 5 5.89 20.98 $0.00
12 LAKE CASITAS 8/16/2008 MIKE HART 5 4.79 17.34 $0.00
17 LAKE CASITAS 7/19/2008 MIKE HART 5 0 15.08 $0.00
4 Castaic- West ramp 8/18/2007 MIKE HART 5 3.87 14.74 $409.00
4 Casitas 3/31/2007 MIKE HART 5 7.57 16.57 $428.00
5 Lake Casitas (Night Event) 8/4/2007MIKE HART 5 6.34 21.12 $385.00
5 Lake Casitas (Night Event) 7/14/2007 MIKE HART 5 7.08 24.34 $335.00
15 CASITAS 2/10/2007 MIKE HART 5 3.47 12.14 $0.00
16 Lake Casitas (Night Event) 6/16/2007 MIKE HART 5 4.12 16.92 $0.00
2 Casitas 3/18/2006 MIKE HART 5 8.03 26.94 $1,076.00
2 Casitas 3/18/2006 MIKE HART 5 8.03 26.94 $1,076.00
2 Casitas 3/18/2006 MIKE HART 5 8.03 26.94 $1,076.00
3 Castaic 4/15/2006 MIKE HART 5 4.63 17.09 $382.00
7 Castaic-West Ramp 4/29/2006 MIKE HART 5 3.4 14.2 $0.00
7 Casitas (Night) 5/13/2006 MIKE HART 5 4.97 18.37 $0.00
7 Castaic West Ramp 8/26/2006 MIKE HART 5 2.29 9.72 $265.00
13 Cachuma 8/5/2006 MIKE HART 5 1.64 6.58 $0.00
18 Cachuma 2/19/2006 MIKE HART 5 0 5.58 $0.00
21 CASITAS (Night) 7/8/2006 MIKE HART 5 0 12.34 $0.00

National Bass West 2009-2010-
*MIKE HART 5/5 3.99 16.66 198.00 $1,165
MIKE HART 5/5 * 6.20 19.63 200.00 $4,245
-MIKE HART 5/5 19.44 * 6.34 19.44 200.00 $2,505
MIKE HART
5/5
16.69
4.40
16.69
199.00
$1,070

-MIKE HART 5/5 4.25 17.18 200.00 $2,565
-MIKE HART 5/5 3.89 16.06 200.00 $2,535

Won Bass 2009-2010
1 Mike Hart/ 5 4.50 17.16 $2,630
1 Mike Hart/ 5 21.56 6.05 21.56 105 $2,170
1 Mike Hart/ 5 17.82 17.82 125 $2,180
1 Mike Hart/ 5 18.98 8.25 18.98 125 $2, 000+
1 Mike Hart/ 5 20.37 7.96 20.37 125 $1,590
1 Mike Hart/ 5 20.97 6.85 20.97 125 $1,405

Don't forget about his Angler of the year......Free entry fees. Dude probably hasn't paid for an event in 10 years......

Hopefully this will SIDELINE the rest of the cheaters out there!

ChaChaChicken · Post by **ChaChaChicken** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:29 pm

Hey Robert F, how long do you think this has been going on. How many other anglers are doing this. Seems like cheater's a dime a dozen now a days. I have been a victim of cheating here in SD, when a father and son team got caught cheating. Left a bad taste in my mouth, now this?? Makes me not want to fish anything that has decent money to win. My 2 cents, don't spend it all in one place..............

Brian Linehan · Post by **Brian Linehan** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:30 pm

Joey and Shaun are right on. This has nothing to do with Mike's partners at all. He's fished with some of the best...Zank, Chandler, Wong, Siemental. It's not fair to those guys at all.

Mike was probably the most accomplished to ever compete down here bar none. However, it's such a shame what happened today. Truly sad!

bass king · Post by **bass king** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:47 pm

what a f-ing asshole.

all you who lost money to this helmet should be lined up at his front door with your hand out asking for a refund.

guy better change his name and move far, far away.

Robert F · Post by **Robert F** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:52 pm

ChaChaChicken wrote:Makes me not want to fish anything that has decent money to win. My 2 cents, don't spend it all in one place..............

Had a long conversation with a top tournament director yesterday about this EXACT subject. The big money needs to get out of the smaller game events. We do not need guys cutting their cheating teeth in the team venues. They get away with it for a long time then move on to bigger targets. That said, you are never going to remove all of the risk from any activity. If you go near a street you may get hit by a bus. Is that a good reason to stay inside the rest of your life? You are penalizing WON because of somebody else's action. Not fair to you or WON.

BassketCase · Post by **BassketCase** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:52 pm

What do So Cal Schools and Fishing Tourneys have in common?

Both need Metal detectors to keep the LOSERS out!

Seriously though... New invention anyone?

Weigh scale with a built in metal detector

swordfish · Post by **swordfish** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:02 pm

If guilty and it dosent look good at this point, hang him high and long ,snap his neck what other methods of cheating goes on in tourneys especially teams? Some of these guys have many other methods of cheating it has been going on for years.. What a bummer subject I don't like to even think of ..... but it's a reallity folks, these ego driven twisted buscuits think up sheit lovers of the sport would never ever ever consider

N.A.R · Post by **N.A.R** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:02 pm

BassketCase wrote:
Seriously though... New invention anyone?

How about the BASSKETCASE?

http://westernbass.com/forum/viewtopic. ... light=cage

drew · Post by **drew** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:06 pm

Are we being a little presumptuous? I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until Won Bass releases the verdict based on his statement and the results of the polygraph.

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:10 pm

drew wrote:Are we being a little presumptuous? I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until Won Bass releases the verdict based on his statement and the results of the polygraph.

http://www.wonews.com/t-WONBASS-cheater-7-21-10.aspx

sTony

S. Bailey · Post by **S. Bailey** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:12 pm

he wont be taking a polygraph. They have all the evidence they need . The tournament director, couple fish and game guys and Mike hart all watched the fish being cleaned straight out of his bag. Its a done deal.

Keith R · Post by **Keith R** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:25 pm

Shocked and bummed out !
Never in a million years would I have guessed !

So what about the other circuits that he fished? Is he still AOY?
What happens to the current AOY titles?

******* Y T D T O T A L S *******

2009 / 2010 YTD NBW AOY Final Standings

1 MIKE HART
2 MARC JEU DE VINE-KEITH RINI
3 JIM WHITE-GREG ERICKSON
4 BOBBY NELSON-BILLY NELSON
5 SABINO CICI-FRANK KING
6 HUGH MITCHELL-DOUG NORVELL
7 DALE JENNINGS-BRYAN JENNINGS
8 BUZZY WIEMAN-PAT AMMERMAN
9 CLIFF GREGORY-JOE MC ALISTER
10 AARON FISCHINGER-STEPHEN
LAMB
11 JIM FRUMENTO-JAY POORE

2010 WON BASS SO CAL Fianl AOY standings

1 Mike Hart 7 35 128.40 866
2 John Ed Wilder III/Jay Poore III 7 35 87.56 836
3 Tony Capparelli/Mike Reese 7 35 85.13 821
4 Doug Engh/Ralph Wells 7 35 76.14 805
5 Jim Olivarez/Frank King 7 29 65.93 787
6 John Gallagher/R. Gustafson 7 26 49.99 766

2008 / 2009 NBW AOY Final Standings

Team Members Evt Wgt Pnlty B/F Total Weight Total Points
1 MIKE HART-xxxx
2 JIM FRUMENTO-JAY POORE
3 BOBBY NELSON-BILLY
NELSON
4 SABINO CICI-FRANK KING
5 DOUG NORVELL-HUGH

2009 WON BASS AOY Final Standings

1 Mike Hart-
2 DeLynn Davies-Steve Davies
3 Tony Capparelli-Mike Reese
4 Marc JeuDeVine-Keith Rini
5 Frank King-Jim Olivarez

2008 WON BASS AOY Final STANDINGS
1 Mike Hart-
2 Billy Nelson-Bobby Nelson
3 Jay Poore-John Ed Wilder
4 Frank King-Jim Olivarez
5 Marc JeuDevine-Keith Rini

2007 WON BASS AOY Final Standings
1 Mike Hart-
2 Doug Engh-Ralph Wells
3 Gary Collins-Troy Lindner
4 Bob Roady-Dennis Taylor
4 Jason Hemminger-Matt Newman
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drew · Post by **drew** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:32 pm

I'm just now reading all of the info and must still be in the denial stage. I'm very very sad.

S. Bailey wrote:he wont be taking a polygraph. They have all the evidence they need . The tournament director, couple fish and game guys and Mike hart all watched the fish being cleaned straight out of his bag. Its a done deal.

Kevin · Post by **Kevin** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:23 pm

Joey summed it up perfectly.

Johnny Bass · Post by **Johnny Bass** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:51 pm

So was this stinky pile of dukie able to fish many team events solo? Makes you think maybe its time to adolpt a few of those new rules? Anglers shall not fish without thier partner. Establish off-limits/closed periods...didn't someone find a cage full of bass a few months back? And since Mike Hart has to live with this as his legacy we might as well do the same and adopt a new rule in his name: Howabout the Lead disclaimer found on all fishing tackle sold in Califronia??? That now becomes Tthe Mike Hart Rule; Warning Mike Hart and all his bass contain lead, a chemical know to all fishermen and Tournament Org's to cause sudden distrust and other feeling of hatred and betrayal which may be hazzardous to your wallet and general well being of your fellow bass angler.

Good Night Alice

smpboy · Post by **smpboy** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:53 pm

i think he should give his boat to whoever finished 2nd in the tri states last year since he would be using it anymore.

davet. · Post by **davet.** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:56 pm

Boycott this a$$ hole. Don't anyone sell him a hook or repair his boat. Kick him out of your establishment if he walks in.
If you support this phuck stain, then you are also tainted.
Shame this loser out of town. Put flyers around his neighborhood. If I lived any closer, I'd be tacking em up right now.
No better than a common thief.
Lets get a "Megans Law" website for cheaters. Put up their cheating record, pic of their face, where they live, etc., then any tourney org in the country can look up new members for records of cheating.

bassaddicted · Post by **bassaddicted** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:39 pm

He was good

yeah at cheating. He prob. used live bait to.

" my co is retying let me just grab this live crawdad. "

How can you say someone is good when they cheat to win. Come on now once a cheater always a cheater. For the nice guy, don't kid yourselfs it's fake.

619 · Post by **619** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 3:47 am

Question...Who do you know that has the sickness like us fishing Bass Fishing tournaments and is so successfull at it that wouldn't want to step it up and fish at a higher level?.

From looking at this guys record he had his meal ticket punched. I don't remember seeing his name on any larger circuits.

You can start with it's a money issue or whatever. You would at least try it wouldn't you? I know I did and I sucked. But I never won everything I fished.

Makes you wonder doesn't it?

I can say on day one of the open standings I said to myself when I saw this guys name maybe he is legit, because I had my doubts.

jsc11700 · Post by **jsc11700** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:34 am

Sad day for Bass Fishing. Not only did this guy try and steal from everyone that fished the tournament, but he stole from every single tournament angler from the club levels to the pros, who sacrafice time and money to become the best angler they can be. Makes it hard to judge how good you are when there are P.O.S. anglers like this guy out there cramming lead weights in fish. I hope WON Bass presses charges to the fullest.

finatical · Post by **finatical** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:48 am

Sorry to here this and it puts Bass anglers in a poor light.
Unfortunately when there is money at stake, people do very strange things to win at all costs and it is just not unique to bass fishing.

A few years back there was this bow hunter that killed some monster deer which were CA state records (several years). Turns out he was having deer heads shipped from out of state and saying he took them w/ a bow in CA.

Why did he do it? IMHO it was all about the $$$$ -greed! His faux accomplishments would bring sponsors, TV features on a team pro bow hunting the world, and he would be known as the 'bow hunting guide/expert'.

We see it in pro athletes all the time esp. w/ performace enhancing drugs.

Students cheating on tests, people faking their credentials etc.

Not sure how you can correct the moral compass of folks that feel compelled to do these unethical acts just to get the 'edge'.

Unfortuately there are always some bad apples in the basket.

sterrno · Post by **sterrno** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:49 am

If any of you guys think that you can fish with somebody for any amount of time and not know he is a CHEATER your wrong. just look at this guys record come on he is not van dam.

hawghustler · Post by **hawghustler** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:51 am

Make you wonder why he was fishing so many team circuts alone

sterrno · Post by **sterrno** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 4:52 am

why your looking at teams/person with more wins than seems possible look a little futher south.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:07 am

sterrno wrote:why your looking at teams/person with more wins than seems possible look a little futher south.

Jealousy is a bastard.

So one guy gets caught cheating and its somehow suppose to tarnish the reputation of one of the most accomplished anglers so cal has ever seen? Sad day for bass fishing indeed.

sterrno · Post by **sterrno** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:21 am

some guy, you must like it when people steal from you.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:41 am

sterrno wrote:some guy, you must like it when people steal from you.

just to get the facts straight.. who are you accusing of being a cheater?

sterrno · Post by **sterrno** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:54 am

I am accusing no one of cheating. I just think people should be aware that cheating is more of a promblem than any of us tend to believe.thats all.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 5:58 am

sterrno wrote:some guy, you must like it when people steal from you.

if you are not accussing anyone of cheating then explain this comment?

quit hiding behind a keyboard and go put in the work to beat the guy instead of taking pot shots behind a screen name.

Brian D. · Post by **Brian D.** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:28 am

man... TOURNY ORGs... take note....start doing polygraph tests! No deterrent leads to complacency.

gixxer464 · Post by **gixxer464** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:29 am

No he mostly fished with a team-mate but thier names were removed to protect thier integrity.

PORKCHOP63 · Post by **PORKCHOP63** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:46 am

YOU FORGOT ONE WHEN HE BEAT ME AT VAIL BY AN OUNCE OR SO.
VAIL LAKE NATIONAL BASS WEST $ 5475.00
HUM??????????????????????????

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:53 am

One of the reasons I fish ABA and their Championship. Lie detector test at the end. EVERY ORG should have them at the year end events. No excuse now. Rick G.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:56 am

Rick G wrote:One of the reasons I fish ABA and their Championship. Lie detector test at the end. EVERY ORG should have them at the year end events. No excuse now. Rick G.

+1

I say every derby. I wonder what the cost would be to hire a guy for the full season. You would probably get a discounted rate and im sure most anglers wouldnt mind paying the couple extra bucks to maintain the integrity of an event. I know I wouldnt mind it.

Tin Can · Post by **Tin Can** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:02 am

Rick G wrote:One of the reasons I fish ABA and their Championship. Lie detector test at the end. EVERY ORG should have them at the year end events. No excuse now. Rick G.

The tests aren't cheap, that's the problem and it's why every org is not going to able to provide them. Unless anglers want to pay more for it upfront or pay the same entry with lower pay back.

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:07 am

If anglers demand lie detector tests as part of the tournament, the organizations would have to incorporate testing as part of their trails, and cover the expenses, not the anglers or individual TDs.
It only seems fair that, if they want to make money off anglers, they should have to insure a level playing field.

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:08 am

Tin Can wrote:
Rick G wrote:One of the reasons I fish ABA and their Championship. Lie detector test at the end. EVERY ORG should have them at the year end events. No excuse now. Rick G.
The tests aren't cheap, that's the problem and it's why every org is not going to able to provide them. Unless anglers want to pay more for it upfront or pay the same entry with lower pay back.

I dont care what they cost. Let the orgs pay or the anglers, but if you are going to have a year end fishoff for those kind of prizes you have to have them to keep at least these cheaters nervous. Pay the test fee or quit the business! Rick G.

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:16 am

Rick G wrote:
Tin Can wrote:
Rick G wrote:One of the reasons I fish ABA and their Championship. Lie detector test at the end. EVERY ORG should have them at the year end events. No excuse now. Rick G.
The tests aren't cheap, that's the problem and it's why every org is not going to able to provide them. Unless anglers want to pay more for it upfront or pay the same entry with lower pay back.
I dont care what they cost. Let the orgs pay or the anglers, but if you are going to have a year end fishoff for those kind of prizes you have to have them to keep at least these cheaters nervous. Pay the test fee or quit the business! Rick G.

i actually just contacted truthorlie.com based out of the 909. I said there would be 7 derbies and i would want a polygraph at each derby..

they quoted roughly 250 a derby plus 100 travel fee.. so 350 to get the whole season.. if you average 35 teams that only 10 bucks a team to make sure NO ONE is cheating EVER! Im on board with that.

Brian Linehan · Post by **Brian Linehan** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:20 am

The orgs would just pass the cost along to the anglers I would imagine. Lets face it, none of these orgs are making a ton of profit. If National is paying back 100% at some of their events, does anyone expect them to dip into their own personal finances to have a polygraphs? No way.

I think Rick is right on for the TOC's, but to do these deals at every tournament is not realistic.

Tin Can · Post by **Tin Can** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:20 am

That's actually not as bad as I thought it would be, small price to pay for peace of mind.

Gerryjig · Post by **Gerryjig** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:21 am

CHANDLER wrote:This is a very sad day for me personally as I was Mike's partner for many years and still one of his best friends. Who knows what makes people do stupid things but maybe it is the times we are in right now. Times are tough for many people, but that is no excuse for his actions. I know how good of a fisherman and person Mike is and this act was very out of character. He deserves to be banned from tourneys for sure and I cant imagine whats going on in his head right now. I pray that he will get through this and move on, leaving behind a sport he loved and was very good at.

+1 right on Joey. Too bad for sure. Lie detectors and maybe a 1/2 pound deduction per dead fish (SWBA rule) would be better. With a 3oz. weight minus .20 you still come out 2.80oz. "ahead"...DAMN what a bummer what were you thinking Mike? I've seen this guy and his partners catch fish within view of me in events when you had to be so dialed in.....he surely is one of the best So. Ca. has seen and definately not fair to ANY of his partners. Perhaps the events he fished solo he may have cheated but I don't think he cheated in ANY events with a partner as all his partners were unbelievable anglers and the two wouldn't need to cheat. Looks like I may have to jump back in now that I won't be fishing for 2nd. And I've ALWAYS been for Lie detectors at all events....and yes somguy what's a few more dollars to know your somewhat protected from cheating. Bummer to say the least. Gonna get some surf and try to forget the last 12 hours......try

Brian Linehan · Post by **Brian Linehan** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:23 am

Hey John-

I wish we had a lawyer on the boards because I'd be interested to know the legality of the polygraph. I know by signing the release form, the angler is acknowledging the fact that they could potentially be polygraphed, but like everything in life and contract law, there are loopholes!

That seemed really cheap John! Good work!

some guy · Post by **some guy** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:27 am

they wanted 500 for a single one.. i asked them for a discounted rate because we would be using them multiple times and they agreed.. plus the guy that owns it is an avid fisherman. Im sure if all the Orgs went through him as well the price would be cut down even more. Just a thought.

Im no lawyer but if you make every angler sign a waiver at sign ups that should clear up everything i would assume.. 10 bucks a team is peanuts when you are putting up 350 all in to fish for a couple grand IMHO. Id gladly pay the 10.

I love fishing derbies and it makes me want to look at everyone else differently now and thats not fair. Some guys are so disgusted with this they have the "who can you trust mentality now", that trust has been broken with the angler and now it has to be rebuilt. if someone refuses to sign the waiver then that says something about their character right then and there. No signature, No entry. Simple as that.

Gerryjig · Post by **Gerryjig** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:34 am

some guy wrote:they wanted 500 for a single one.. i asked them for a discounted rate because we would be using them multiple times and they agreed.. plus the guy that owns it is an avid fisherman. Im sure if all the Orgs went through him as well the price would be cut down even more. Just a thought.

Im no lawyer but if you make every angler sign a waiver at sign ups that should clear up everything i would assume.. 10 bucks a team is peanuts when you are putting up 350 all in to fish for a couple grand IMHO. Id gladly pay the 10.

I love fishing derbies and it makes me want to look at everyone else differently now and thats not fair. Some guys are so disgusted with this they have the "who can you trust mentality now", that trust has been broken with the angler and now it has to be rebuilt. if someone refuses to sign the waiver then that says something about their character right then and there. No signature, No entry. Simple as that.

C'Mon orgs!!!! now is your chance! truthorlie.com

Pearl Swimbaits · Post by **Pearl Swimbaits** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:39 am

maybe they deleted the partners name to keep them out of it....
dont think he would have been a team tourny guy with no partner

...........kinda wierd the best local guy cant find anyone to fish with

sux........nobody could believe A-ROD either.......

drew · Post by **drew** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:40 am

Isn't -.2# equal to -3.2oz. So with a fish care penalty wouldn't he be -.2oz/fish?

Gerryjig wrote: With a 3oz. weight minus .20 you still come out 2.80oz. "ahead"...DAMN what a bummer what were you thinking Mike?

MP · Post by MP » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:41 am

It's common practice in the midwest to have polygraphs at every tournament. Paying the extra $10 to feel some level of protection is 100% worth it. Beyond that looking into the cost of a metal detector would be solid as well.

Hart, might me a solid stick but now he deserves to be remembered as a cheating prick.

Rick G · Post by **Rick G** » Thu Jul 22, 2010 7:43 am

To me its not different than the Orgs having to pay for insurance, workers comp, or gas to the events. Build it into the cost of doing business and get it done. Now is all their chances to do the right thing for the anglers and the sport. JC is right on. Lie detectors will keep the scumbags out. Rick G.

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