Palin's teen daughter pregnant.

[delta1124]

So her 17 year old is pregnant. Hmm can't keep own house in order, yet she is just what this country needs. Yeah right!

[Ringer]

Real men don't pick on pregnant kids. You are starting to sound like Michael Moore.

[Fishin' Dave]

The kids are innocent. Just ask Bill Clinton when he demanded the press leave Chelsea alone. Fricking low to pick on someone's family no matter what the affliation. You going to make retard jokes next about her boy?? Lay off the family and focus on the issues. thanks.

[Marty]

I was listening to the News on the way back from fishing and I heard that Sarah Palin daughter was in a motherly way. The first thing I started to wonder was what low-life would make this a subject of the campaign and bring it up on WBC. You were my first and only guess!

Man-up low-life and tell everyone who you are!

[delta1124]

There is a pattern emerging with Palin. And if you heard it on the news then I certainly wasn't the first to bring it up. It'll all play out, and much to my satisfaction. But I'll give you this, this is one of the few posts that you have written without your usual copy and paste someone elses words.
Cheers

[getalife]

But I'll give you this, this is one of the few posts that you have written without your usual copy and paste someone elses words.

Who are you referring to this time... Marty? I heard this on the news today and, like Marty, I thought it would be you, Delta, that posted this garbage on WBC. The only reason you make this an issue is that you really can't touch Palin on any issue of substance.

[delta1124]

I guess the fact that she is under investigation for corruption doesn't count. I'm happy I didn't let either of you down

[getalife]

The way I understand it... she fired the commissioner who was supposed to fire the cop that was divorcing her sister. I certainly dont know much more than that but it is rumored that the cop in question used mace or pepper spray on his own kids and thats why she wanted him fired. Palin has an otherwise perfect record of fighting corruption in both parties so I have no doubt that she will emerge clean from this.

What are you worried about Delta. Maybe she will clean out the congress and get rid of deadwood like Pelosi and Fienstien.

[RichThiel]

This Kid "Delta" just looks at "Frames of Glass" instead of through them.

Sorry to say this Delta, but if you are really this liberal and nieve. You''ll diffently get screwed in the wallet and on many other issues through out your life.

[StockOption]

Barack Obama grew up without a father and was raised by his mother and grandparents.

LOL

Yeah and Mama Osama was 18.

Here's hoping Bristol does indeed marry the father. We all know how fatherless kids typically turn out.....god forbid one of them ever become president

LOL

Please.

Smart people don't go here. I just became stupid for all of you.

[delta1124]

getting rid of tow pieholes like Pelosi and to a very slightly lessor extent Feinstien could only do everyone good, don't forget Boxer.
Ron Paul was the best possible candidate out there, McCain/Palin is the worst joke of them all. Her cuteness is already wearing off.
Too bad for that.

[delta1124]

Frames of glass, sorry I don't get it. But I did find fish on points all weekend, especially around areas with hydrilla.

[Greg_Cornish]

...You were my first and only guess!.....

Are you absolutely sure?

I can picture it all now... Chelsey got pregnant at 17 -19 while Clinton was in office. What would all your reactions be? I don't really care if Palin's daughter got pregnant or not. That's their business. But I can garandamtee ya that this forum would be abuzz if it was Chelsey.

[Greg_Cornish]

She going on the Maury Povich show on Wednesday for a DNA test to see if its really hers.

[Jeff C.]

I agree that the issue is out of bounds, and Obama has said so himself.

...but I am curious to see if the self-righteous wing of the Republican party jumps on it. We all know that if the same thing happened to the daughter of a liberal they would be all over it.

[Ringer]

The difference is if Chelsea was pregnant we would all suspect that Bill was the father.

[Jeff C.]

Ouch... good one.

However, all you have to do is look at history to see that it's the Conservatives who are usually the sexual perverts.

[Ringer]

Was Dahlmer a conservative? Or maybe you are referring to the homos in the republican party. Is homosexuality a perversion? Is poking an ugly barfly like Edwards did a perversion? I think there is plenty of perversion to go around.

[ash]

You are correct is not right to showcase a family's inner workings- so lets focus on the success of the Bush's Abstinence Campaign.


Instead of encouraging kids to have safe sex and to use protection this current administration has advocated Abstinence prior to marriage.

Hummm- I find this hard to believe myself but it turns out teenagers are having sex - even conservative Christian girls.


Bush promotes virgin values to curb teen sex
Washington has adopted the Right's abstinence campaign

The Bush files - Observer special

* Ed Vulliamy
* The Observer,
* Sunday April 28 2002
* Article history

It began as a low-key campaign among conservative Christians to discourage their children from having sex. Last week the abstinence movement emerged as a key plank of President George W. Bush's reform of American welfare policy.

As Bush extolled the virtues of abstinence as a protection against sexually transmitted disease and teenage pregnancy, congressional hearings opened on government plans to spend millions of dollars promoting the 'no sex is safe sex' campaign.

But as abstinence becomes a cornerstone of US social policy, it has opened up a bitter debate among policymakers. Many argue that it endangers sex education for young people, who will be sexually active anyway.

On the other side, supporters of the movement are organising 'virgin pledges' in schools, claiming that they can delay teen sexual activity by up to 18 months.

In a speech in South Dakota last Wednesday, President Bush reiterated an election promise to spend as much on programmes that teach abstinence until marriage as on medical services that provide contraceptives to teenagers.

Last February, the President laid out a budget for next year that would raise federal spending on 'abstinence only' education by $33 million (£23m), to $135m. Last week, this budget entered its phase of seeking congressional approval.

The arguments propelling the initiative are, ostensibly, medical not moral. 'Abstinence is the surest way,' said Bush, introducing a welfare reform plan, 'and the only completely effective way to prevent unwanted pregnancies and sexually transmitted disease.'

Such issues remain a huge problem for American teenagers. By the time they graduate from high school, two-thirds of the nation's young people have had sexual intercourse, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. One in four sexually active teenagers contracts a sexually transmitted disease each year.

Bush is under fire from his conservative Right over a number of issues, from the Middle East to immigration, and there is no safer place to satisfy it than on moral high ground it holds dear.

But the debate has also engaged leading think-tanks such as as the Brookings Institution, whose senior researcher Belle Sawhill told the Washington Post: 'There is some merit in promoting abstinence, but it is also the case that there are going to be kids, no matter what adults tell them, who are going to be sexually active.'

On the other side, the conservative Heritage Foundation is claiming that 'virgin pledges' and school classes recommending abstinence not only delay sexual activity but make a qualitative difference to young people's relationships.

The sexual abstinence campaign comes amid an atmosphere of growing intolerance towards the liberal presumption that teenagers will have sex, and that education's role is to make their activities as safe as possible, physically and emotionally.

In the recently published Harmful to Minors, Judith Levine writes: 'In America today, it is nearly impossible to publish a book that says children and teenagers can have sexual pleasure and be safe too.'

Harmful to Minors was rejected by many major publishing houses; one editor called the contents 'radioactive', another said the timing 'couldn't possibly be worse'; another asked her to remove the word 'pleasure' from her introduction. And once the book was finally commissioned by the University of Minnesota Press, it became the target of a campaign spearheaded by the conservative Right to keep it from being published altogether.

Talk show host Dr Laura Schlessinger denounced Levine as another in a long line of 'academic paedophiles', trying to make child sex acceptable. Robert Knight, director of the Culture and Family Institute, branded the book 'very evil'.

But many academic studies on the subject, including a recent report by former US Surgeon General David Satcher, argue that the only proven method for reducing pregnancy and sexually transmitted disease is to combine the abstinence message with one that teaches young people how to protect themselves. The Institute of Medicine published a report in 2000 concluding that abstinence-only programmes constituted 'poor fiscal and public health policy'.

'There is no scientific evidence that "abstinence-only until marriage" programmes work,' wrote James Greenwood, a Republican representative, to the President. Greenwood is co-sponsor of legislation to rival the President's programme, seeking $100m for mixed education that 'teaches both abstinence and contraception from both a values and a public health perspective'.

Deborah Roffman, a sex education teacher in Baltimore and author of Sex and Sensibility: The Thinking Parent's Guide to Talking About Sex, said: 'The abstinence-only approach is not realistic. Fifty per cent of kids have already had intercourse.

'There is absolutely nothing wrong with a strong abstinence message, but to say it is the only option is culturally inappropriate because of the kind of environment we are raising our children in.'

The abstinence movement is carried by groups such as 'Free Teens', whose founder Richard Panzer organises 'pledge groups' - in this case funded by the state of New Jersey. 'We work with the public schools to teach there are a lot of practical reasons to not have sex,' Panzer said. 'It is not just the medical side.'

One recent study showed that signing a pledge has some impact on teens. Columbia University sociologist Peter Bearman interviewed 20,000 teenagers and found that teens who took abstinence pledges waited significantly longer - on average 18 months - to have sex for the first time than those who did not.

'What makes a difference is that kids feel they are doing something special,' Bearman said. 'By pledging, they have an important sense of identity, and belong to an elite moral community.'

[Ringer]

Duhh! Screwing is fun. Bill Clinton founded the most successful safe sex movement in schools by determining that oral sex was not sex. An epedemic of oral sex followed in schools all over the nation. No pregnancies involved there. I am just jealous that he wasn't president when I was in junior high.

[CharlieS.]

So her 17 year old is pregnant. Hmm can't keep own house in order, yet she is just what this country needs. Yeah right!

Ouch....btw...check O's family tree..see where his father was when he was born..what difference does it make? Honestly ? Does anyone know what goes on 24/7....Liar. As far as "in order" go back to your teen years...not everyone is a saint .

[Greg_Cornish]

The difference is if Chelsea was pregnant we would all suspect that Bill was the father.

Yay! You proved my point.

[Greg_Cornish]

However, all you have to do is look at history to see that it's the Conservatives who are usually the sexual perverts.

I don't think perversion has political boundaries.

Does this look like safe sex?

[Guy Kelley]

Yeah, She is pregnant, So What ? Little girls have been dropping their drawers for centuries, long befor modern birth control was around and even when the the preachers were saying that the sinners were going to Hell an suffer internal damnation !!!

It dint stop em then and it don't stop em now !!!

So how dose this determine whether Palin would make a good V.P. or not.

Get over it Delta 1124. Your Halo is starting to slip !!

And leave the kids out of the Political crap you carp about!!!!

Or perhaps you got nothing better too do than stare at car accidents and spread smut

[getalife]

Good news does not make for good news. The media is all over this story like Bill on an intern. To me, this proves that Palin is one of us, her life is not scripted and molded like the lives of the Clintons, Kerrys, Edwards, Obamas et al. These career politicians (including McCain) are part of the problem, and not so much part of the solution. I think its very exciting to have someone like Palin on the ticket and I dont care one bit that her daughter may or may not be a slut.

[CharlieS.]

I dont care one bit that her daughter may or may not be a slut.

Wow....kind of an outlandish comment...by any chance you work for NBC or CBS?