Does your Save Phace fog up?

[fishinfool145]

I've tried two different lenses and still my Save Phace fogs up in the cold.

Is there a trick to not having it fog up? I was going to put some rainX on the lens but I know the lense has a coating already and don't want to mess the coating up with the RainX.

Thoughts please.

[Hollywood]

You might try some goggles from SWANS but then your not getting the save phace full effect. But if you want something that WILL NOT fog on you a pair of SWANS goggles will do the job!

[Hollywood]

might try to rub a good coat of tooth paste in the inside lens for about 5-10 minutes then rinse clean!!

That is what us divers use on a new pair of lenses.

Or you can just hold your breath while flying down the lake!

[Vince Lazzeroni]

Here is a direct quote from their website:
"NO more goggles that FOG UP! The Save Phace lenses are GUARANTEED NOT to fog up"

I would contact them and let them know the problem you are having.

[Vince Lazzeroni]

Make sure your lens vents are open too!

[hydrate2o]

I just bought one because of eye surgery and was told to keep the wind off, it also fogged up unless I tilted my head the right way..... guess I will give them a call too.

[Hollywood]

I would try the tooth paste trick mentioned above, it will take the chemical film off that is on new lenes when they are manufactored.

That does the trick for the divers and for ski goggles, should do the same for your save phace! Might save you shipping back to them!

Kevin

[L.Hackney]

Hey fishinfool,
is that you dave? I'd do what Hollywood said with the toothpaste first, just dont use original colgate. I did that to my diving mask and there were real fine scrathes in the lens. Keep in mind that this was fifteen years ago and original colgate was abrasive. Since then I have done it with crest and aqua fresh and no problems.
Someone mentioned the no-fog gel from the dive shop and that works good after doing the toothpaste thing..

[Hollywood]

i use crest on my teeth but seems i have only used aqua fresh on my masks. the one with the many colors in it when you squeeze the tube. but i would assume crest and the others would work just fine to!

[Jon]

After spending the $$$ with the gaurentee to not fog up. I don't understand why anyone would have to deal with the fogging issue?

I am seriously considering a Save Phace because I am getting a new boat where I might need it, but the fogging issue rises again. Why wouldn't I just want to use my skiing goggles that I know won't fog up?
Jon

[Hollywood]

because your skin goggles wont protect your mouth or ears? buy a helmet, maybe you will be happier???

[Gator]

FishinFool and everyone else -

If you are having a fogging problem, please let me know. I talk with the people at SavePhace fairly regularly and will see what I can do for you.

The new lenses are guaranteed not to fog. If you have an older version, there were some problems with the manufacturer that have been rectified.

SavePhace WILL take care of their customers. Please let me know if you are having any problems.

Thanks,

Gator
SavePhace Pro-Staff

[L.Hackney]

I use a Bell helmet now. The only draw back I see is that I have to take my hood down to put it on. This leaves my hood on the parka flapping around in the rain, put back on the hood when we stop and my head gets wet. With the mask at least you can keep your hood on the whole time. None of this hood up, hood down crap.

[Rich reeser]

gator, I've had mine for about 3 years n they fog bad. I know the new mask have vents in them. I don't want to buy another mask if I don't have to. Let me know if they will exchange the lens or who to contact. Thanks Rich

[DG]

Gator,
You have a PM
Dick

[fishinfool145]

Thanks every one for the great feed back. It sounds like the diving gel/toothpast is may be the best option. I talked to Save Face. Nice folks but since mask is about a year and half old I'm on my own. Living in S. Ca. I don't get to test it on too many cold mornings.

When it fogged the first time I went to Anglers marine and they were nice enough to give me a new lense this last spring, it wasn't until middle of last month that I got another chance to use it on an icy cold morning and I was barely on plane before it fogged so bad I was blind.

Great mask when someone else is driving. If the diving gel stops the fog, the mask will still be worth it.

[Mike T]

I don't own one. I know a number of people that do. They all seem to fog. I heard they got the bugs worked out after the first batch of lenes, but...
Great idea and cool looking masks, but I agree with Jon. If you advertise they won't fog up, you shouldn't have to mess around with tooth paste or anything else. I'm sure you'll smell minty fresh!

[Hollywood]

running around minty fresh aint so bad.....

Hopefully there new products are what they say they are, I have never run one, I just use a pair of SWANS goggles when driving, those my friend will not fog!

[Marty]

My Save Phace fog up every time on me but I don’t think there is anything I can do to stop it. My body puts out so much heat I can fog up a pair of sun glasses.

This is what I have done to date to stop the fogging.

I first cut slots in the Cushing above the eyes hoping the heat would evaporate out. That did not work.

I tried RainX and ant-fog that is put out by RainX – still fogged up

I was watching “Clean that Houseâ€

[Vince Lazzeroni]

I still say get ahold of the company as they have their guarantee of not foggin up. Or get ahold of Gator as he posted here as well.

"NO more goggles that FOG UP! The Save Phace lenses are GUARANTEED NOT to fog up, down to 10 degrees, (they will freeze just like anything else), but won’t fog up as long as the lens vents are open."

[Hollywood]

I will stick with my SWANS goggles cause those suckers can't fog, 2 part lens design makes it fogless forever!!! I can take them out of my truck, put them on when it's snowing and then drive the boat 70mph and see like a champ!

[Paul Facio]

Hello,

My name is Paul Facio and I am one of the inventors of the Fish Hedz face mask now known as a Sport Utility Mask. The mask was developed after fishing a brutal tournament on Lake Shasta where it was necessary for us drive the boat through a number of hail storms at high speed. Not only was it very dangerous but it also hurt my face so bad Jerry Wright, the president of Save Phace, and myself set out on a quest to find a cure for the problem. The result was the original Fish Hedz face mask.

We started selling the mask in October of 2004. Everything was going great, no problems and then we got in a second order of lenses from our manufacturer. Without checking to be sure the second order of lenses was good we kept selling masks.

On new years day 2005 I was fishing a ABA tournament on Lake Sonoma. Before I could get to my first stop my lens was starting to fail. My entire life was flashing before my eyes. I had quit an outstanding job as a parts manager in a Ford dealership and now there was a problem. I went back to the warehouse the next day and started checking the lenses. We found about 40 percent of the lenses were not coated correctly. Some failed instantly and others took a while. And still others had no problem what so ever.

At this point we had a choice to make. Do we make good on the product or do we run away. We decided to make it right. We proactively notified all customers who had sent in their warranty registration cards to let them know we were aware of the problem and would send them a replacement lens. For the people who contacted us and did not send in their warranty paper work we still sent them a replacement lens, no questions asked. Because not all the lenses were bad and we had a product in about 200 retailers across the nation we kept our no questions asked policy until january of 2006 where we started requiring people to pay a $6.95 shipping and handling charge.

In May of 2006 we came out with our best lens yet. It is using a military grade coating made by a company in Florida. I Have been using the same lens in my original design mask for 8 months and have never had a problem with it. We are selling the mask in over 400 tackle stores including Gander Mountain, Sportsmans Warehouse and Bass Pro Shop. If we still had a problem we would not of grown our retail outlets and for sure the big players would of dropped us. We also would not have licensing agreements with companies like Triton, Legend, Champion, Yamaha, and Real Tree. As a matter of fact we are selling a lot of masks right now and we have a 3 week back order.

To the best of my knowledge, not a single customer who has our most current lens has called in with a problem. With constant quality control and attention to detail I feel our Sport Utility Mask is an outstanding product. Feel free to call Gene from the Hook, Korinne from Tracy Oasis, John from Bobs Marine, or any of our other retailers and ask them what they think of the mask and of Save Phace.

With the most current lens you will not need to drill holes, cut foam or modify the mask in any way. Do not clean the lens with anything but cool water. If you use products containing ammonia like Windex you will instantly wipe the coating off. It is also important to know that there is no such thing as a perminant anti fog coating. Nobody can claim this. Eventually the coating will go away and you will need to replace the lens. This is true of any product with a baked on coating.

I will be in the office today and tomorrow but out of town after that till the 22nd. If anybody has any questions please call me.

I also want to thank everybody who posted here. It all looked like constructive comments without any bashing. I appreciate that.

Thanks
Paul Facio
Vice President of Sales
Save Phace
866-783-3223 ext 1375
Paul@savephace.com

[Gator]

Guys -

Please take Paul up on his offer. If he does not immediately get back to you, he will get back to you.

He is the first person I contacted about this. He took it upon himself to personally address this issue. I think this says alot for the man and the company.

Please contact Paul if you are having a SavePhace issue. If, for a reason I cannot fathom, Paul does not take care of your problem, please let me know. I am only a small but ardent supporter of this product, so I will do whatever it takes to keep our customers happy! (As I know Paul will)

[SABP]

Thanks for coming on sharing that...and for inventing and taking to market a product that helps us all when we are on the water.

You guys have responded well to a problem that could have derailed your business efforts and it shows that you truly have a great product. Now there are guys over in Iraq with the masks because they are such great protection from the elements.

I advise anyone who has even the least bit of problem with the lens to just go ahead and order a couple new pair of the lenses. It's nice to have a backup. Heck, we will drop 100 bucks in a tackle store in a heartbeat so what's the problem ordering a new lens for 6.95. About the price of one bait now a days.

[MaddMaggs]

Well, the vote is in. I was debating on whether to buy a mask or not. I was on the fence as they say, the coupon from Gator had me leaning yes but i just wasn't sure. Well, after reading this post I am on my way to Rocklin tonight after work for my RealTree mask.

[Gator]

Cool - glad to hear it Maggs. you will definitely enjoy it.

[davet.]

I have one of the older ones that fogs up so bad, I can't use it at all. I have contacted them previously and was told it would be another $20 for the current lens. I am a little disgruntled about that and I think they have lost a repeat customers. I think it should work right from the start. I'll go to Sports Chalet and get some of that divers mask treatment. I hope this aint viewed as a bash, but only a personal testimony and opinion.

[MrSkeeter]

I'm with DaveT ... I own two masks, one for me one for my wife. We've had lense exchanged 2 times and they STILL fog up ...

I've tried some of the remedies mentioned above, but none have worked so far. Maybe I'll try the toothpaste deal next time out.

[Bill kizer]

I bought mine last September. Mine dosen't fog up when I wear it without glasses. However when i wear glasses the glasses fog up.

[L.Hackney]

Guess I will re-think getting one after all the fogging issues you guys are having. I want stuff that works so I can concentrate on the job at hand.
Not something that I have to keep lifting up to un-fog it...

[SABP]

If your lens is older than May 2006 than you may or may not have the lens that has a tendecy to fog up.

Lenses after May 2006 are the better lens and should not fog up unless the coating gets rubbed off. They are meant to be cleaned with water and a soft cloth to not damage the coating.

Sound to me that alot of people who have had issues with some of the bad lenses just need to get them swapped. Remember just because you got a new one last year or bought one from a tackle store this year does not mean you have the new lens. Plus if you have rubbed it clean with a rag that has any type of cleaner or dirt on it it could have damaged the coating.

As far as the old lens, another trick that works every time while using the old lens (this is from my partner who had an old lens and now has the new lens that doesn't fog up) is to just lift the bottom of the mask about an inch forward when you run and it will not fog. Not the best solution but if you really do not want to get the lens replaced just try that trick and it will work.

As far as the toothpaste trick or rainX. it says on the rainx bottle to not use it on plastics and remember toothpast is made to be abrasive and could remove the special coating on the new lens. The dive masks need to be scrubbed once when they come from the manufacturer. The anto fog lens does not.

After fishing Oroville in the rain for 4 days last week I wouldn't have taken 100 bucks for my mask. It was worth every cent.

[Hollywood]

Wow Paul, Thanks for the response! I am sure I will be ordering one of them legend ones for any non boaters who show up without a helmet!

Thanks for the response!

Kevin Johnson

[hydrate2o]

Where can I get replacement lenses for 6.95? I looked on the website and they were 19.95. I would like to get some .

[MaddMaggs]

Well my buddy Calvin and I hit Oro Outdoors this am on our way to the lake and I have been wanting a SUM for sometime as Cal's boat does not have a second console and it can get down right chilly in the am. We both ended up purchasing the Camo SUM and right off the bat all I can say is WOW!!!!. What a difference going across the pond. We both had no issues with fogging. I wore my sunglasses under them, no prob. This is gonna be such a life saver, no more picking bugs outta my teeth on Clear Lake, no more frost bite of the face during the Winter NCC at Folsom...Best $$$ spent not on a rod or reel....

Thanks Save Phace!

[Jerkbait0071]

I know that I had a problem with the older ones fogging up but the new ones I have not had one problem with. But then again I use this stuff surgeons use on there masks so it will never fog up. Surgeons can't have their masks fog up during surgery. I have extra if anyone would like to try it.