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How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger than the one that Cooch is touching the camera lens with? My scale isnt the best but it is alot more accurate than the one Cooch has. He is a nice guy but someone has to tell him. The fish on his current post cant be over 8 and a half. Cooch...a 12 pounder is a MONSTER..it could eat that thing!
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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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Here we go with the cooch scale again!.....LOL......I swear that his scale is certified........or was at some time............. :D :D :D :D
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Re: Maybe your a small person.

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Re: Maybe your a small person.

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I have been out with Cooch many times, and have had him weigh fish on his scale, than I have weighed them on mine, and they were just a little different. So if hes using the same scale it is pretty close if not accurate. My scale measures a little under what 100% scales weigh at. Just an ounce or so different.
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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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Ha! I have the same problem when I watch the fishing shows. For years I've been watching Shaw Grigsby and Bill Dance and especially Roland Martin catch "10 lb" fish and hoped that one day I would joing the club. Well last weekend I finally hooked into one that appeared to be in that same weight class when I brought it out of the water. Imagine my disappointment when my monster fish only topped out at six and a half pounds. What gives! Do you think it's the camera angle maybe?
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My guess is......

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you take better photo's than my camera man, and yers was a female, this was a big buck! By the way, the camera man was over 6 feet away! :roll: Here's another angle of that fish from Tuesday.

<img src="/shared/photos/photos/resized/3988_resized.jpg">

This bass measure 28 1/2 inches long and had a girth of only 16.5 inches, and it was dwarfed by the female that followed him to the boat! Had you seen this fish live, as my neighbors, client and Zach Thompson all did, or even saw it sitting in my livewell, you would have no doubts and prolly thought it weighed more than what it did!

The scale I use is a Berkeley Boga Lip Grip Digital, and it's accuracy has been tested many times, as Jason mentioned. This is the same scale all the Brazillian outfitters use to certify Peacock bass, I have the utmost confidence in it's readings.

Is it perfect? Nope, but it's a hell of a lot more accurate than the naked eye! And clearly, your naked eye has no clue. When you say, "touching the camera", "8.5 pounds", "my scale's a lot more accurate than Cooch's", you've just made three absolute false accusations, with absolutely no factual back up. :roll:
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Re: My guess is......

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Hey Cooch,

Nice fish, from the look of that pic it must have been tough reeling him in with only one arm! :shock:
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No way it's a 12...

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that looks more like a 14!

Good job Cooch.

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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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Nice fish Cooch :D
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I think that fish looks like a high 11. Angles are everything, and in some of the photos Cooch chose an angle and held it in such a way that it does look a little small. But the one hes holding up and down looks like a big fish.

Hey Cooch I have two questions for you. 1) how do you know it was a buck (I know you have said that youve caught large males in the Delta before); and 2) tell me more about your scale such as what is the accurracy (1/16, 1/10, or 1/100th) and how do you know it is reading accurate (checked at the grocery store?). Im in the market for a new scale.
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Hey AFB - I was having to use BOTH hands ta hold that pig! LOL Ironically, when that fish bit, I was only holding the rod in one hand, holding it high over my shoulder as I was twisted around talking to my client. He dang near jerked the rod right outa my hand when he bit that Wadda jig! A big surprise, and I was VERY lucky to git a good hookset on him and into the boat.

Steve - 1. Unlike female bass, the bucks are not carrying eggs, so they typically do not have that big pot bellie when ya catch em up in the shallows, during the Spring. Also, the males tend to be much longer, with big heads when they get to this size. As I mentioned, while reeling this fish in, we saw his mate, she dwarft him! We just didn't react fast enough ta catch her too. Then the client and I investigated the location, we saw the bed, it was as big as the jump circle at center court! At other times, you can catch one of these big bucks and you'll notice the white stuff coming from his vent(this was not present with this fish). From the indications I recognized, I'm sure this was one of our big River bucks.

As fer my Boga Lip Grip, it's the 14" model BGLGDS digital scale. It weighs in two modes, kilo grams or pounds and ounces. I've never checked the accuracy to the kilo gram, since I have no weights in this measurement to check it against. But my neighbor has three lead weights, in sizes of 5, 10 and 15 pounds. The Boca will typically hit those weights 4 out of 5 times, and maybe an ounce shy the 5th time. As with any scale, stable balancing is a factor. I like the Boga because ya just grab the fish by the lower jaw, no need to use a hook which can puncture a gill or tear jaw membrane. And it's great on Stripers or big largemouth with a big ole plug with giant trebles hanging from it's face! Generally I'll take three readings on a fish to assure I get a common reading, since bass don't always hold steady all the time when being weighed on a hanging type scale. If yer not gonna purchase a Salter, the Boga is a great and handy option. You can read more about this scale at the link below:
http://www.calfishing.com/freshwater/ca ... ation.html

or do a Google search on: Boga Grip Scales.

Otay Mike - YES! There are some topwater fish to be had! They are few and far between, but typically over 6 pounds! Waking a slammer has worked, as has big Spook like surface plugs. I've also heard of guys catching the occassional froggie fish already. I've seen a lot of guys tossing buzzbaits the past week. Whether or not they are catching them, I can't say fer sure, but I gotta believe they are.
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Poor...Cooch LOL!!! That Bass looks good to me too. Nice one buddy :wink:

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Re: My guess is......

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looks like a damn nice fish to me. good job cooch
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Oops....

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(previous post deleted by me)

I had said what I meant, and meant what I said....... but I wasn't talking specifically about Cooch.

I think my post would have been great advice to young guys coming up, and fishermen in general, but it "should not" have been included in this thread.

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Re: Photos don't mean NEAR so much.....

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Attack, attack, attack. It seems that for some thats all that this forum is here for and frankly it's wearing down on the majority in a big way.

If the guy weighed it on his scale and it said it was slightly over 11 pounds then that's what the darned thing said and who are we to question that? You know, Cooch has been rather gracious in his acceptance of the poking fun we've had with him through the years about his scale but sometimes guys take it way too far. He's also been the first to help a guy catch more fish and the first to jump in here and have some good natured fun with everyone.

Let's put the ego's and shotguns away and get back to what this forum is all about, folks sharing their common love of the sport in positive ways through good natured camaraderie, question answering and information exchange.

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Re: Photos don't mean NEAR so much.....

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A picture can tell a thousand words. True, when I saw the first picture of Cooch with that fish, arms out, I figured under 10 maybe 9 or so. The only problem is that angles are everything. I am a big guy 6'2" and no matter what I seem to do my fish always look small when I take photos(maybe because they are all small) I have had 7lbers look over ten and 8 lbers look like 5's . I can make a 5 look like a runt if I hold it right. I appreciate all that Cooch adds to this site and I trust that his measurments are accurate. Great fish!!!
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Credibility, hhmmm!!!! I believe Cooch has a bunch of that stuff laying around in his house!! :D
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Tony,

My god take a deep breath.

Who is attacking Cooch :roll:

There are eighteen posts on this thread and the only one that could be considered an attack is the original post :!:

Cooch is a big boy, he can take care of himself.
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Then you need to get a pair of glasses and re-read the credibility post again.


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Tony, I read it again like you asked and can still find no attack on Cooch.
Could you please point it out to me and if I am wrong I owe you an apology.

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Re: Photos don't mean NEAR so much.....

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Nice fish Cooch, I think it weighs more than I do :shock:

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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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Who really cares how big it is?

Its a big fish and sounds like it was a lot of fun to catch!
If its 8 - 9 - 10 - 11 - 12 pounds... does it really matter... unless its in a tournament?

Cooch isn't posting that picture and its weight in order to get some kind of reward... He's just showing off a big beautiful fish and I like seeing that kind of stuff.. God Knows I can't catch (errrrrr catch and land) anything even close to that big on the delta!
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But sTony..

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... the credibility post was done with perfect slyness. I was impressed with the authors ability to dance and tippy toe around the bush, without lighting the bush on fire.

Those who know the story(s) picked up on it, those that dont missed it.
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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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I agree Tom,

Looks like a nice fish to me too.

Hell, the only thing on this thread that grabbed my attention was the attack, attack, attack.
It made me look back through all the posts to see if I missed something. :lol:
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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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oops, that was close!
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Re: How come my 11 pound 13 ounce fish look sooo much bigger

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well i don't know cooch, but his reputation preceeds him. i don't think cooch has to make up stories about big fish, his reputation says it all. if cooch says its that big, i'm sure it would be, what does he have to prove? his reputation speaks for itself.

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Cooch wrote:At other times, you can catch one of these big bucks and you'll notice the white stuff coming from his vent(this was not present with this fish). From the indications I recognized, I'm sure this was one of our big River bucks.
That would be the clincher. If the fish spews its Milkshake of Looooove, you know it's gotta be a male!
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Cooch your telling me that you caught a 12 pound male and there was a 20 pound female following it.......WOW. Did know males dont even get 12 pounds in Florida? Just for your knowlage just because there are two fish on a bed it doesnt mean that one is a male and one is a female. Last year I caught a ten and a twelve off the same bed within a hour of eachother. Then about a minute later the male showed back up from under a bush and he was a Big male......almost five maybe. 12 pound male, I wonder what Fish Chris thinks about that. Oh yea...you obviously were not touching the camera lens....but you sure couldnt hold it out any further!
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Wow, we are so honored......

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Bassmonster, the self proclaimed NorCal Bass King, has spoken in our presence, AGAIN! :shock: ! He speaks of 10 and 12 pounders he has caught, with absolutely no support to back up his claim. And then he makes up stories about 12 and 20 pounders that I caught. Dood, you on this planet? I never caught a 12 pound male, nor did I say anything about a 20 pound female. This kids a riot! You must feel real good about yerself, specially since ya can play this game with me and squemishly and cowardly hide behind yer computer. You should have read Chris's Credibility post, surely you have zippo young man, and a lot ta learn. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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"This bass measure 28 1/2 inches long and had a girth of only 16.5 inches, and it was dwarfed by the female that followed him to the boat!"

I really doubt you measured that fish, and ya you did say it was a 11 3/4 pound male and if it was dwarfed the female was twice its size right. I dont need factual backup Im not the one in question here and its not a critical thinking class and my 11 pounders look 11 pounds........everytime. Nobody has ever questioned one of my fish.
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You are probably right! Nobody questions nobodys.
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Re: Wow, we are so honored......

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Honestly, does it really matter??? It was a good fish and he posted it for everyone to see. We should be giving him a thank you instead of a @$#& you!! BTW thanks Cooch for posting the pics. on a regular basis, it's good to see and hear what's going on in your neck of the woods.
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Inside Line Photography Article!

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I just did an article on Fish Photography for Yamamoto's Inside Line Magazine - Jan/Feb '07 issue. Maybe that would help some of you understand how a photo can "make or break" a good looking bass. Depending on many variables, a 4 lb bass can be made to look 10 lbs, and a poor photo can make a 10 lb bass look 4 lbs. I am guilty also sometimes, but the arm should not be straight out but slightly bent. The bass will then usually look about the weight it really is. Hope this helps!
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Well my scale says that you

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pissed off Tony 100 pounds. What is with all this big fish drama. I catch big ones and I catch small ones and they are all fun. Andy's fish looks pretty sweet to me. Man lets give Tony and Gator a break!!
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Bassmonster, shut-up!!
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Re: Well my scale says that you

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Bassmonster, You say that Cooch is the one in question here, and not you. But you are the one questioning him. Why? It seems like you got issues bro. Worry about your own fish not anybody elses.
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Tony's Right...

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Seems like people are just coming into the forums to ? and stir up the s**t. If'n you dont agree with someone cool or if someone has an opinion then cool give your 2 cents and end it. But if'n your just jealous cause you can't or haven't caught some pigs like Cooch then your very weak. All of us on the river know of Cooch's knowledge and skill and have seen/caught fish this big. This system is amazing and 10/12's are caught all the time without anybody taking and sending pictures in. There is no reason to attack anybody over this crap. I understand everyone's proud of their fish and time put in on the water so just accept it as that and be happy for someone for once. Stats say most of us should just be happy to see pig's that big since percentage wise very few will catch one over 10.
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Re: Numbers don't add up

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I printed the picture and measured it. Cooch index finger on print out=2.5mm. Length of fish on print out=62mm. Probable length of fish 24.8". Width of fish on print out= 19mm/2.5mm=7.6". 2X7.6"=15.2". Cooch measured girth at 16" so the fish was .4" wide?
In real life my index finger is 25.4mm=1". I figure Cooch about the same. So the apparent photographic ratios and conclusions might be accurate? However who ever heard of a 16" girth .4" thick? Why don't these numbers add up?
Obviously a photographic illusion factor exist by the held out arm offset by the distance of lens to object (fish). The fish was 11#13oz and only .4" thick? Numbers just don't add up at all. Maybe that Buck dun been eatin Buckshot or #2 duckshot.
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Hey Bassmonster....I give up!

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NOT!

Making an idiot of you, is a lot easier than making an idiot of me! HAR! HAR! HAR!

So, here's an 8 lb 3oz fish of today. I went out and caught this lil beaut especially fer you buddy. Just so's you could see what a River 8 lb female, really looks like(I have no doubts, you've never caught a fish bigger than this, since we've NEVER seen a picture of it and you, it couldn't possibly be true by yer standards, right? HAR!)

<img src="/shared/photos/photoother/resized/234_resized.jpg">

Oh, and by the way, she measured 23.75" long.. yeah, I never measure my fish:
<img src="/shared/photos/photoother/resized/235_resized.jpg">

Hey Don, this one had a girth of 17.25, do the math fer me on this one too, maybe I'll getta grip and grasp of the next deduction ya come up with. That was funny dood, yer a riot! BassMonster, yer a bassturd, that can't find it's way up the hole, even when we flush ya! HAR! HAR! HAR!
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Re: Hey Bassmonster....I give up!

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Cooch- Is that a sliding T rigged worm or Senko on a sliding bullet..... if so-- was the bullet pegged at all?

Bottom pole was a drop shot or possibly a fluke ? :?:


Beautiful fish-- and even nicer tounge! Image
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Re: Hey Bassmonster....I give up!

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Hey Bassmonster.

You're in TROUBLE dude
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Re: Hey Bassmonster....I give up!

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Cooch doesn't need to justify anything to anybody.

We all love fishing here....let that be the focus.

Nice fish Cooch.........all of them.
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Re: Hey Bassmonster....I give up!

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Cooch why is that fish in your shed?
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Geeeze, yer so.....

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Gullible Dan! :lol: :lol: :lol: Had I posted that picture with the Golden Gate as the back drop, would ya be heading west in the morning? HAR! HAR! HAR! Take notice, those two rods are in the BACK!, of my boat! And they are there in plain sight fer everyone ta see. LOL They are NOT up front, which is where I spend all my fishing time! Which by the way, is where the swimbait and jig rod are residing! HAR! HAR! HAR!

Okay, okay, I'll give it up! That fish was caught on a 213, 9L Senko in 8 feet of water, pre-spawn! One of those rods in fact is a smalller 9 Series 925 Senko, the other is a dropshot with a Robo Sculpin, in a color you'll just have ta figure out fer yer self! HINT: Go to the Hook, it's the peg that's empty! :twisted: :twisted:
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Real Simple monstermash.....

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Cooch why is that fish in your shed?
I went out taday, asked the fish in my back yard,' Yo fish! Who wants to participate to make this self proclaimed "BassMonster" look like a real idiot. Ya know, help to expose the kid fer who he really is. He thinks me and my Delta bass are bulshatting him!" Shat dood, shoulda seen the fish jumping into my live well when I propesed em that oppurtunity! HAR! HAR! HAR!
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Re: Real Simple monstermash.....

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I have no idea what that means.
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Why is that not surprising! HAR!*NM*

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