Speaking of Keeping Bass

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:42 am

Hope whoever posted this pic in the Photos page at least ate all these fish. I count more then 5

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Phil Burgess · Post by **Phil Burgess** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:00 pm

why not let them go!!!!!!!!!

justflipit · Post by **justflipit** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:04 pm

wow this guy is talented. i can catch a bunch of small bass and bring them home too. what a dirtbag. buy your damn fish at a store. once again what a dirtbag

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:14 pm

According to the username and profile... that is Rob Chavez of Stoneyford California...

I don't like killing fish myself - however, if someone would like to kill and eat a few I don't have too much of a problem with that ---

At least he's eating the right size bass!

Sean Graf · Post by **Sean Graf** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:09 pm

Wow, what a bunch of damn babies you guys are!!
So the guy took some fish home, why do you guys get so damn mad at peoples decisions to take fish?? IT'S LEGAL TO KEEP FISH!

Keep catching & releasing your fish that you catch and stop being the Bass Police.. Pretty soon we'll see you guys on every dock holding signs like the PETA people..

I agree with Tom, at least they're the right size.

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:14 pm

Yeah, but are all those fish his, if so than he is breaking the law!!I count more than five.

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:16 pm

JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!

Fish Chris · Post by **Fish Chris** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:34 pm

So many people have just taken the whole C/R thing WAY TOO FAR !

C/R is fine, most of the time, at most places...... "AND ALWAYS FOR TROPHY SIZE FISH" !

But Selective Harvest can be an even more powerful tool, especially at places that are overran with smaller fish.

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Of course with all of this said, even if I did keep a limit of 2 lb bass for dinner, I'd no sooner post a photo of those fish in my kitchen, than I'd post a photo of the pork chops I had for dinner last night

LOL
But hey.... I might have 20 years ago.......

Live and learn, right ?

Cut the guy some slack,
Peace,
Fish

PS, If that guy were to read this thread, I bet he might think to himself, "Wow ! Those C/R dudes are a bunch of jerks ! I sure don't want to be like them" !

Think about that.........

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:43 pm

I do everything I can to promote catch and release... including telling people that Bass taste horrible and they eat crap... and from our lakes --- never! but, truth is - to each his own. However - they don't have to post the picture for all of us to see!

If someone just had to have bass for dinner and wanted to keep some fish I would only ask them to please keep the smaller fish... and let the big ones go - and never more than they plan to eat! From what I hear the smaller ones taste better anyway.

I shouldn't have posted the guys profile information - but, anyone can get that by clicking on the guys name anyway. I just thought if someone knew him, they might talk to him about posting the pictures in the future!

cleb19 · Post by **cleb19** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:49 pm

I happen to fish at this lake quite often and this guy keeping these fish is ridiculous, Since 1986 when they had to drain this particular lake, the lake has been on the rebound I remember 4-5 years ago
you couldnt catch a lot of bass up there then two years ago 100 fish days werent nothing, and then this year it has been tough I have seen many people bringing fish in by the 5 gallon bucket fulls,
crappie, bass, catfish everything and anything I believe Water resources has installed a 15 inch law and 5 fish limit it looks to me that neither qualify on some of this guys fish,

Oh yeah who determines what pics go on the page, this particular pic shouldnt of been posted gives the site a bad name

my 0.02

cleb

G-Ko · Post by **G-Ko** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:52 pm

I don't want to stir the pot anymore, however good for him for catching some fish and getting a meal out of it. I release 99% of my fish each year and keep a few during the summer maybe once or twice for a good fish fry. I will say that the previous report, if true is not condoned by me. I feel that if the fishery is recovering or rebounding then pass on keeping fish.

However, I do agree that he has the right size fish and if they are only his then fine, but looks like someonw took the picture, thats 5, and he is there, another 5, so 10 fish total they can have. Another thing is that everyone is so crazy about the catch and release.

Like a said in the beginning I release basically all of my fish, but I still see nothing wrong with keeping a few a couple times a year. In fact 3 -2 lbers at Clear Lake in the summer are delicious with a margarita.

By the way, all you hunters/outdoorsmen. No one gets all pissed off by hunting each time. Are you releasing any? Keep the right ones and limit the amount and i see nothing wrong.

Just my 2 cents

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:53 pm

What lake is it?

snapitoff2002 · Post by **snapitoff2002** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:55 pm

Is this Stoney Gorge? I was there when the lake was chocolate, and we sucked up there.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:55 pm

You really eat 3 fish from Clear Lake? Losing a few 2 lbers isn't going to effect that lake - but, it certainly could effect you!

Yikes... I can see Berryessa - Oroville - Shasta and some of the cleaner lakes... but, Clear Lake is quite high in toxins... in fact I think they recommend only eating 1 fish a month from the lake.

Eat what you like but, just my .02!

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:10 pm

I don't have a problem with people taking some small fish to eat here, and there! I don't do it, but thats my choice. But as some have said, why would you post a pic of a bunch of dead bass on a bass web site?

G-Ko · Post by **G-Ko** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:15 pm

I have basically grown up on Clear Lake and done a lot of reearch in college on mercury levels at this lake. I have never had any problems and feel that they statistics are actually much more exagerated. I have my studies, but i know there are people much more knowledgable on the subject.

Anyways, I will continue to each year keep a few fish from the Lake and enjoy them.

In regards to the guys picture again there is a time and place for everything. I think he has the right time but wrong place.

Greg

Bill K · Post by **Bill K** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:17 pm

Although most of us release our bass, except for shasta lake and a limit of spots for eats, the guy like all of us paid our tax to the state obtained a lic and it allows us to keep a limit of fish, whatever species we are after. Like it or not it is the way it is and we should not be lowering ourselves to calling him or anyone names. A little respect goes a long way and you have to give it to earn it. Just a thought.. Bill K

Blue_R70 · Post by **Blue_R70** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:22 pm

justflipit wrote:wow this guy is talented. i can catch a bunch of small bass and bring them home too. what a dirtbag. buy your damn fish at a store. once again what a dirtbag

Granted, the focus on this site is mainly on tournament/recreational/C & R fishing but not everyone who fishes for bass does it for purely recreational reasons the way most of us on here do.

So eating bass aint yer tank o' gas--big deal. Insulting the guy and calling him a dirtbag just because he keeps a bunch o' bass is ridiculous. Some people seem to elevate catch and release and bass fishing in general on too high a pedestal....

Fish Chris · Post by **Fish Chris** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:29 pm

Your absolutely right Bill. And to go along with what your saying, I believe that education is the key. If this gentleman knew what many of us do, he might have released those fish, but more importantly, he would release a big one, should he catch it. If not, that would be his perogitive, and the end of the story.

However NOBODY is going to listen to somebody elses point of view, if that person is putting them down.

If the people on this forum "really care" about our fisheries, they will try very hard to educate less knowledgeable people, in a friendly, helpful way.

Peace,
Fish

mac (Doyle McEwen) · Post by **mac (Doyle McEwen)** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:38 pm

I couldn't agree more..At least they are not 5+ pounders..Looks like the guy caught a bunch for a good fish fry..He definitely has the right size for a little fillet and beer batter from what I can see..Hey if you want to turn all your fish loose, I don't hold it against you..If you want to keep a few or a limit for eating, I won't hold that against you either..If you think you are better than me because you release all of your fish, then I can only say I believe you are sadly mistaken..Different, sure..Better, not..

mac

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:53 pm

[quote="Yikes... I can see Berryessa - Oroville - Shasta and some of the cleaner lakes..."/quote]

Berryessa clean?? Oh my, did you really mean to say that Tom?? Berryessa may be worse than Clear Lake.

I agree with Chris, as usual, on this subject. However, even selective harvest may not be appropriate at all lakes. In other words, keeping small fish out of some lakes may hurt also (depends on recruitment).

Anyway, I like eating bass, and when fishing a clean lake I normally try to keep a few small ones to eat. No, they dont taste like crap.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:58 pm

I don't know much about Berryessa... It looks clean!

I do know a bit about Clear Lake - My College Best Friend's dad owns a geotechnical company out of Reno that did a lot of work on Clear Lake and told me point blank - don't eat the fish! Although he did say, the lake has gotten much better in the last decade or so!

Either way, eat what you like but, try to keep it to the small one's on lakes that have an abundance of fish!

Steve · Post by **Steve** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 2:58 pm

How the heck do you use that darn quote button anyway.

Looks clean? Hmmmm.....I know youve fished there during the times of year that there is a ton of what looks like clumps of sh** floating around. Fact is, thats exactly what some of that stuff is. Also, just look at the drainage basin of Berryessa and think about land use practices within that basin.

jaime7819 · Post by **jaime7819** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:09 pm

Some of you guys have become way too emotional about these fish. Heck, i keep 2lbers for a good fish fry every once in a while as posted by one of the previous posters. Lake McClure bass sure are nice and clean. As long as they are 15", its all good. Of course, i would never keep anything over 3 lbs. Been there done, that, they taste like crap..never again. Cut the guy some slack, some people do sound like tree huggers, heck i've never let a buck go either that was legal.

duckhuntr07 · Post by **duckhuntr07** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:51 pm

Fillet and release?

Just kidding guys, don't crusify me.

I tend to release my fish also but I have eaten some bass and love the taste of smaller fish (under 3lbs but legal of course). I fish the Delta the most and folks say I might glow at night if I eat them fish. I also hear people talk about all the bodies they pull out of the Delta. My mother in law just can't understand why I don't bring her a couple home to eat.

Wait.........maybe........naaaa!!

froteur · Post by **froteur** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:15 pm

duckhuntr07 wrote:Fillet and release? Just kidding guys, don't crusify me.

I tend to release my fish also but I have eaten some bass and love the taste of smaller fish (under 3lbs but legal of course). I fish the Delta the most and folks say I might glow at night if I eat them fish. I also hear people talk about all the bodies they pull out of the Delta. My mother in law just can't understand why I don't bring her a couple home to eat.

Wait.........maybe........naaaa!!

i think the bass from the delta are great eating. i think the fact that they are current fish gives them denser meat. that being said, i probably eat three or four fish a year out of there and they are NEVER over three pounds - normally less than two. i guess that gives me a catch and release rate of about 10% ---- just kidding, it means i release over 90% of the bass i catch. and, of course, ALL trophy bass --- if i ever catch one again.

justflipit ---- have you read the following article?

http://www.bassresource.com/fish_biolog ... _bass.html

maybe you can call the author of this article a dirtbag too cuz he eats bass. (the author is ray scott, for those of you who don't want to dig that far

) by the way, justflipit, you are familiar with ray scott, right?

Fish Chris · Post by **Fish Chris** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:20 pm

But hey Steve, as long as they are HUGE, their is no such thing as "too few" right ?

Seriously though, yes, their are a "very few" places where recruitment is low, and these places probably should be 100% C/R.
Selective Harvest (how many, and what size) needs to be judged for each fishery, on an individual basis.
The scary thing is, this actually requires people to think !

Peace,
Fish

froteur · Post by **froteur** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:23 pm

Fish Chris wrote:But hey Steve, as long as they are HUGE, their is no such thing as "too few" right ?

Seriously though, yes, their are a "very few" places where recruitment is low, and these places probably should be 100% C/R.
Selective Harvest (how many, and what size) needs to be judged for each fishery, on an individual basis.
The scary thing is, this actually requires people to think !

Peace,
Fish

we're fishermen. we don't think.

i totally agree with you, fish. it's a fishery by fishery thing.

bassaddicted · Post by **bassaddicted** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:37 pm

I think F&G should put a weight limit on bass. You have to release a bass that weighs 3 pounds or over. Just my input could be wrong though I'm no biologist

Jerry

bassaddicted · Post by **bassaddicted** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:40 pm

I think F&G should put a weight limit on bass. You have to release a bass that weighs 3 pounds or over. Just my input could be wrong though I'm no biologist

Jerry

bassaddicted · Post by **bassaddicted** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:40 pm

I think F&G should put a weight limit on bass. You have to release a bass that weighs 3 pounds or over. Just my input could be wrong though I'm no biologist

Jerry

Hollywood · Post by **Hollywood** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:46 am

anyone know who has that great bass reicpt? i might want to fry some now that the subject is up.

Rod Martin · Post by **Rod Martin** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:52 am

Bass Pro Shops, You can get the pot, cooker, oil, & batter. Plus hush puppy mix to go with it. All you have to add is FISH

Deacon · Post by **Deacon** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:01 am

Before I was a tournament guy I also was a catch and eater. My grandpa caught fish to feed his family. My Dad caught fish to help feed me. It was passed on through the family. My Grandpa and dad did it to live. Of course that was a long time ago. When I was young we caught all species to eat...And I agree that Bass taste horrible. Now a days things are different. I think that what alot of you guys said makes sense. Anyone who pays for a license is allowed by law to catch and KEEP a limit to take home! For all we know this guy doesnt have a good job like some of us....doesnt make alot of money like some of us....and NEEDS these fish to help feed the family.

I dunno and to tell you the truth I dont care. Most of us tourney or serious fishermen put to much emphasis and C&R. I think Fish Chris was right that alot of these lake do need some of the smaller fishes taken out for the long term great good of the fishery. To many little ones make it harder for the bigger ones to feed!

Just my .02

Shawn · Post by **Shawn** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 3:24 pm

Hollywood, dip the entire boneless fillet into milk.Then roll it in bread crumbs.Then fry it in oil until its golden brown and serve hot with a litte tar tar on the side.Life just doesn't get any better!

upriverLMB · Post by **upriverLMB** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:47 pm

LMB beating his head against the wall while reading another CPR topic and the stupid ^$$ replies

Gunzen · Post by **Gunzen** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:39 pm

I see more fish hurt/killed in bass tournaments than any young guy trying to fry a few. I only fish a few tourneys a year, but so many bass are killed, kept out too long, then tossed in the water. At least this guy is gonna eat em. Tourney guys throw em back and let em float.

Sorry, but it is true. I think it is funny how tournament fisherman are the first to complain about guys keeping fish, but have no problem tossing them by the tens inot small, hot ,congested live wells for 8 hours, then carrying them in a bag, dumping them in a laundry basket, and then putting them back in the bag (without water) and carting them to the midlle of the lake (if they are lucky) and dumping 'em.

I myself tournment fish 2-4 a year, and I can easily count 10-15 dead, and 15 more lethargic, possible brain dead bass dumped. Not to mention all the bleeders that just get tossed during the day and never see the scales.

Ironic.

I am not saying it is bad, but it just seems a bit hypocritical to slam a guy, with all the abuse bass take from the tourney circuit (myself included) So I aint gonna say ****.

benthebassman15 · Post by **benthebassman15** » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:59 pm

TomLeogrande wrote:You really eat 3 fish from Clear Lake? Losing a few 2 lbers isn't going to effect that lake - but, it certainly could effect you!

Yikes... I can see Berryessa - Oroville - Shasta and some of the cleaner lakes... but, Clear Lake is quite high in toxins... in fact I think they recommend only eating 1 fish a month from the lake.

Eat what you like but, just my .02!

not to be mean but clear lake fish are not clean i woodnt eat it

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