P-LINE

[FISHIN]

A buddy and myself boated a five fish limit that weighed over 31 lbs. last week and all the fish were caught with p-line. I have been using p-line for about 8 years now and have never had the problems that you guys are talking about. P-line is the best line on the market today that I have tried. Why would some of the best pros in the country use it if they could not rely on it?

[ryan pearson]

amen:) nice bag of fish!!!

[RogerB]

Since there are several different versions of P-Line, ranging from straight monofilaments (CXX and CX Premium), through co-polymer (Fluoroclear), to 100% fluorocarbon, it sure would be helpful if posters commenting on their experience with the lines would distinguish between which version they're talking about.
I've been using the 12 lb. 100% P-Line fluorocarbon on casting reels and have been very pleased with its performance. It's the softest (lowest memory) of the fluorocarbons I've tried, and I've had no problems with break-offs. Yes, as noted by Gator and others, you have to be very careful in knot-tying, but that's true with any fluorocarbon line.
...RogerB

[gt5bass]

Roger,

CX Premium was actually a precurser to Fluoroclear and is also fluorocarbon coated co-polymer line.

I use to use it before I started using 100% P-Line Fluorocarbon line. I now fish either P-Line 100% Fluorocarbon or Sunline 100% Fluorocarbon lines (both Sniper and Shooter). I had a breakage problem with the CX, especially if the spool was more than couple of months old (I was buying the 1000 yd spools not the fillers) but have NOT had any breakage problems with the P-Line 100% Fluorocarbon...in fact I have had a couple of occasions where I couldn't break the 20# and had to cut my line as I couldn't get my bait out of a snag.

During my pre-fish for the Delta EverStart I caught several fish over 8#'s without any problem on the 12# P-Line Fluorocarbon and the fish were in relatively nasty cover.

[RogerB]

Thanks for the correction, Gary. I wasn't sure about the CX Premium, and made a bad assumption. However, I was sure someone would corrrect me, if necessary. One can always count on that on this forum, and that's one of the many reasons it's so useful.
...RogerB

[tfranceschi]

Just to clear up some of the confusion surrounding P-Line...aside from the Fluorocarbon line and the Spectrex all other lines manufactured by P-Line are Copolymer lines that may or may not have a fluorocarbon coating and are not monofilament lines. Because there are different types of lines manufactured by P-Line, not all types are right for all conditions. I was one of the first Pro-staffers for P-Line and continue to be associated with the compay and have not had the problems that I am hearing posted on this board.

I do not doubt that what has been posted is true but you have to keep in mind that you need to make sure you are using the right type of line for the right circumstances.

I understand that we form our opinions based on experiences and that some folks may have had bad experiences with P-Line, but I can assure you through my experiences that P-Line is a reliable line to fish. I have won several tournaments and weighed in three double digit fish in tournaments as well as several in the 7-9 pound class and all of them were landed on P-Line. I would not use the product if I didn't feel that I could trust it.

Whatever brand of line you use, just make sure that it has the right characteristics for the conditions you are fishing and then have confidence in it.

Good luck and I hope to see you on the water. If you happen to see me out there and have any questions about fishing lines, feel free to ask away. I'm always happy to talk fishing and you may even teach me a thing or two.

[tfranceschi]

Just to clear up some of the confusion surrounding P-Line...aside from the Fluorocarbon line and the Spectrex all other lines manufactured by P-Line are Copolymer lines that may or may not have a fluorocarbon coating and are not monofilament lines. Because there are different types of lines manufactured by P-Line, not all types are right for all conditions. I was one of the first Pro-staffers for P-Line and continue to be associated with the compay and have not had the problems that I am hearing posted on this board.

I do not doubt that what has been posted is true but you have to keep in mind that you need to make sure you are using the right type of line for the right circumstances.

I understand that we form our opinions based on experiences and that some folks may have had bad experiences with P-Line, but I can assure you through my experiences that P-Line is a reliable line to fish. I have won several tournaments and weighed in three double digit fish in tournaments as well as several in the 7-9 pound class and all of them were landed on P-Line. I would not use the product if I didn't feel that I could trust it.

Whatever brand of line you use, just make sure that it has the right characteristics for the conditions you are fishing and then have confidence in it.

Good luck and I hope to see you on the water. If you happen to see me out there and have any questions about fishing lines, feel free to ask away. I'm always happy to talk fishing and you may even teach me a thing or two.

[swimbait]

I fished P-Line CXX several different lb tests on several different occasions. I thought it was terrible to be honest. Here is why:

Its $10 for a filler spool of 20lb test. But you get so much memory after 1 or 2 trips that you want to replace it. If it was $10 for a 1/4lb that would be reasonable, but $10 every other trip for line is exorbitant to me.

It is very difficult to tie an improved clinch knot in CXX because it frays the line right above the knot as you cinch it tight, whether you whet the line or not. You can tie a palolmar in it no problem, but I happen to be of the opinion that the palomar is a bad knot in general because of its inconsistency. If you tie a palomar with the doubled line crossing itself, it has a tendency to break. I've tied a couple hundred palomars and found that I just couldn't get a perfect knot often enough to justify it.

CXX also seemed to break at what I would consider a light pull compared to the same test in other monos. That's anecdotal, but everyone who fishes a lot knows how hard they can pull on each lb test of line, and P-Line broke easily for me.

Really though, I don't know why I bother to post this because people who like a certain line are usually very stubborn about it and will never switch no matter what. If P-Line works for you, thats all good. My opinion is simply that there are better lines out there.

[Hipster]

"My opinion is simply that there are better lines out there."

Again, Dodge, Ford, Chevy, Toyota!!!

I think A.G. said it best some time back

"What about just plain ole 20 lb Big Game?"

Mark

[Fish Chris]

just to clarify on two points:

First off, I had my 'back to back' bad experience with P-Line Flouroclear, which apparently is not "pure" fluorocarbon, but rather a copolymer. But as sTony had suggested, my bad spool might have been on the shelf for a long time, which is bad news for 'any' mono filament fishing line. On the other hand, I used this line as a direct replacement, for the Seaguar Carbon Pro which I had ran out of, but of which had never given me any problems whatsoever in the couple of years before this.

Secondly, all of my fluorocarbon experience is strictly based upon its use as a leader, in conjunction with my TUF-Line Plus braided spectra mainline. Honestly, I think "ALL" mono-filament, fluorocarbon or not, P-Line, Seaguar, Trilene, Sten, etc, etc, is coily, kinky, stretchy, garbage. Just can't believe I used it for 25 years.

Peace,
Fish

[bassindon69]

I Still to this day use P-line PF. I still to this day have nothing at all to say bad about it, after all I have used it many many years now.
The best line is the one you feel best about using and feel confident using period. and that my friend is up to you.
Tight lines, lets hope they dont break.
Don.

[Lugnut]

I have used 12lb. CXX and 8lb. and 12lb. Floroclear for the last couple of years without any problems, and I Love it. Then again there other members in the bass club I belong to that think it is crap. To each his own, I would say its just like anything else. If you do not have cofidence in it, do not use it. Just my .02, Lugnut

[Z man]

I may have found a replacement line for Sugoi which I have used for years. Used the 100 % flurocarbon in 17lb and 14 lb this past AC pro am and was very pleased with the performance. I actually could not break off my beaver from a dock and had to cut it and I do hate to leave litter on a man's dock. Not quite as stiff as Sugoi either. We will see.

[MrSkeeter]

Ask 10 guys you'll get 10 answers. As for myself, I've used P-Line CXX along with many other brands over the years. I used 6# P-Line CXX extensively for several years and CXX lines up to 20#'s on the Delta ...

One of my first and most important requirements lite lines is that I need to be able to see it. The line should also be sensitive and cannot be to stiff (coily) so it can be handled easily. Most lines offer compromises to these I stated above. I find that the P-Line CXX to be quite low stretch and sensitive.

For 6# P-Line CXX (which I was using for spinning applications), I was getting too many fish break me off. I believe the problem is that when short-lining a good fish with P-LIne CXX, which is pretty low stretch, I had the problem of perhaps low stretch and tight drag ... resulting in fish overcoming the line. It usually is a good fish of >2-3#'s ... which hurts. Initially I thought I had drag problems, but later concluded that if I fish the line for more than a couple of days, that's when most of my break-offs occur. Fresh new line is not a problem ... but the line is kind of pricey and I cannot afford to be thowing out line on every trip.

So at the beginning of last year, after experimenting with a few other lines, I finally switched to (believe it or not) BPS Excel line for most of my fishing. This line is soft and is very visible in their flourecent clear color. It does have a significant amount of line stretch but I can go up to 10# and even 12# test on a spinning gear and not experience the line coils that come w/ the P-Line CXX. Furthermore, nearly as important as the above qualities mentioned above is cost. It is pretty inexpensive. 1500yard spool of 8# line only cost ~$9. Here's a line for those who may be interested:

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog. ... rchResults

Now back to line stretch. Initially, I consider line stretch a bad thing as you loose sensitivity because of that. It is still true, as I do believe that's something you will loose. BUT ... I've come to appreciate that little bit of line stretch. Since I've switched to this BPS line, I've not had a breakoff that I'm not at fault to (not retying is a bad thing). I feel that line stretch is like fishing with a softer rod. It gives you that much more shock absorbing ability so when that fish decides to make that one last ditch run right at the boat (where I had most of my problems breaking off) ... it give's you just that much more cushion (shock absorption) before the drag kicks in go allow the fish to run without breaking it off.

On the heavier tonage lines, P-Line CXX is wonderful if you use it on a baitcaster. I could not break off 20#'s of CXX ... had to cut it a few times that I snagged at the docks, etc. But these lines tend to be very coily especially much above 10#'s. I tried 8# on a spinning reel and for me, it was too stiff for my taste. I've heard that you can stretch them out before the tourament or spray some Reel Magic and that helps. But ... I'm lazy and don't always do that.

Anyway, this is very much a personal choice and my recommendation is for each to experiment and decide for yourself. Other lines I've found to have good properties include Suffix DNA (now available at Walmart), Berkeley Big Game, Excalibur ... there are a few others, but these come to mind.