This from the latest issue of BASSMASTER Magazine...

Ron C · Post by **Ron C** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:55 pm

"If you've been searching for the ultimate bass rod, chances are good you'll find it here in either the Champion Xtreme or the Champion Series. Designed by Gary Dobyns, generally considered the top bass pro in the West, these rods were the author's choice for the best at ICAST. Yes, they're technique-specific, but thery're so fine-tuned you simply won't find better-balanced rods. There are 12 models in the Xtreme Series, ranging from a light and fast 7'0'' spinning rod for drop shots to a 7'-6" fast and heavy Carolina rig/light flipping stick. There are 40 models in the Champion Series, covering all actions. (www.dobynsrods.com; 800-325-9438)"

http://www.dobynsrods.com/index_main.html

Tobe · Post by **Tobe** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:17 pm

I know Gary has worked his tail off perfecting these rods; I am pleased others are recognizing his much-deserved efforts.
Well done Gary, you earned it.

basstamer · Post by **basstamer** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:28 pm

Wow that is HUGE to get that kind of endorsement-really gets the name out there.I know when I can replenish my stuff I will be buying about 10 of them myself-Congrats Gary!
Scott

NaCl · Post by **NaCl** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:13 pm

They know the best when they see it and an opinion in that magazine carries a lot of weight...now, if only Bassmasters would return to the west with an Elite Qualifying series.

.....NaCl

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:20 pm

Cant wait to get a 805!

SHAFT · Post by **SHAFT** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 5:46 pm

That article mention anything about the Popeil Pocket Fisherman , I heard it has a mini tackle box in the handle .

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Micropterus salmoides · Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:11 pm

An employee at a local tackle shop also told me about a problem with Dobyns rods breaking. I'm still interested in the rods, plan on getting the 735C as a frog rod, but would like to know what the truth is. Is there an issue or was it a bad batch?

Johnny C · Post by **Johnny C** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:25 pm

Mike the 805 is a stud crankbait rod. String some 8 lb. Gamma on that bad boy and go toad hunting.

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:28 pm

8lb

Were talking Delta Johnny!!! Not them clear water lakes you fish!

I'll go with the 14.

Splash · Post by **Splash** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:20 pm

I have 23 Dobyns Rods and haven't broken the first rod. All rod companies have a certain percentage of rods break, I don't care who they are. I haven't had any issues with breakage and none of the dealers out here have either. I would probably check my source of information if I were you........

kb · Post by kb » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:32 pm

Mike I sent you a private message!!! With every rod company there is breakage. Some if it is a defect in the rod and some of it is a defect in the guy holding it while he closes it in the rod locker, pulls it over his head to get unhung, high sticks a fish on a spinning rod while he bounces it on the deck or the rod is nicked while in transit. If I put you in the rod box and piled 5 other guys on top of you and ran across Franks in 4 footers you would be bruised too. Many rods are fractured by a punching or c-rig weight and break down the road....then it is the rods fault in the eyes of the consumer.

Many of you have wondered and voiced an opinion on the $50 fee. Let me explain this and if I screw it up I am sure Gary will correct me. The $50 is for over the counter, no questions asked replacement.....you know like if Cooch trips you while you are walking up the ramp at Russo's and you break your rod then you can take it to a dealer and pay the $50 and get the rod replaced no questions asked........that is not a defective rod.

If you buy a rod and it breaks in a short time period Dobyns Rods is going to replace it. With Gary's reputation and Lamiglas' reputation you are going to get taken care of.

Several of us have heard the rumors and I along with Gary and several of our pro staff members spoke with many of our dealers including Gene at the Hook, Jonah at Hi's, Matt at Sportsman's Warehouse, John at Anglers Marine and Jeff at Valley Rod and Gun and all of them said they are not seeing an abundance of Dobyns rods being retuned and they are selling the rods very well. They did say there are some rods with a large breakage percentage but they were not Dobyns rods.

kb

Dewayne · Post by **Dewayne** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:07 pm

I picked up a Dobyns frog rod this fall. First fish that ate I layed into with everything I had too if the rod could handle it. It held up fine on a hookset that would have broken many rods.

Like Kent said, I believe that most rods are broken by heavy weights and rough rides. I broke three rods one morning on Shasta after they rode up there in a rod locker with a tungsten C-rig weight. Two others were damaged on that trip, but have not broken in the last two years of use.

So far I am impressed with the rods and just picked up one of the swim bait rods. Beside, if they break and I don't think it is my fault I know where to find Kent and Gary.

DeltaDan · Post by **DeltaDan** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:14 pm

kb wrote: The $50 is for over the counter, no questions asked replacement..... If you buy a rod and it breaks in a short time period Dobyns Rods is going to replace it.

...........Ummm - I can differ on that ..... I don't even have a rod locker and take meticulious care of the boys and my gear as well.

kb wrote: They did say there are some rods with a large breakage percentage but they were not Dobyns rods.

........... I can differ with that as well- first hand out of the mouth of someone that see's them come in first hand with another person presant while we were dicussing that issue at hand.

--- It's all kosher now- I handed BrothA Bruiser a Grant and he ran it down to Mel Cottons for a replacement that I will get back this Saturday.

No matter - Stuff happens...... Water under the bridge and I bought another one the week before.

Cheers Kb

And Thanks again Bruiser !!

bruizer343 · Post by **bruizer343** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:21 pm

so you don't want me to Ebay the replacement ?

NaCl · Post by **NaCl** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:24 pm

An early batch of Dobyns rods had some tips break. All broke in the same spot and all came from one certain shipment. I got two of those rods. One of the tips actually fell off while I was unpacking it and the other popped on my first small fish at Oroville. Fortunately, most of those damaged rods were discovered by prostaff and Gary was able to correct the shipping problem before many rods got to the general public. Breakage now is the same as for any other company...abuse such as, high sticking, rod locker lids, damage from C-rig weights, car doors, fat feet, etc. And, Dobyns Rods has stood 100% behind ALL their rods!

Any good company can have a bad batch of product...line (early fluorocarbon), trailer springs (Ranger and other good companies), bad pucks (Lowrance), faulty foot switches (Motorguide). All these companies have one thing in common. They stood by their products. Its one thing to talk about a warranty. Talk's cheap. It's entirely another thing to keep the promises. Dobyns Rods replaced every rod without question. If you are going to spend your hard earned money for quality rods, do it with a company with integrity...Dobyns Rods!

.....NaCl

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:35 pm

....landing a small 2 lb fish. Man was I pissed, I loved that rod and took excellent care of it. I even bought the wife one of her own that she also loves to death.

So I sent mine off to the factory for repairs (via the Outdoor Pro Shop which by the way is a most excellent, excellent retailer and one of our fine forum sponsors) and got back a brand new rod for the cost of shipping -- $14.50. Needless to say I was very pleased and satisfied with the service I received. I honestly felt the rod broke as it was defective given how and where it broke. I was happy to see the factory agreed with me.

[EDIT: NACL that is where mine broke as well.]

kb · Post by kb » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:44 pm

Dan I can differ on that as well. Here is the warranty from the web page and the No Hassle Warranty laid out. Note that a dealer can choose to participate or not. I think most are on board now and any problems youi may have had are a thing of the past. Hopefully you and the boys will be catching a bunch of fish on your rods.

Welcome to Dobyns Rods Warranty page.

Your satisfaction is important to us. Gary Dobyns believes that if fishermen trust his company to provide the best affordable rods on the market, then they also have a right to expect good performance from those rods for many years to come. His old-school attitude about warranties is reflected in our warranty policy below. We certainly hope you will never need to take us up on our warranty but things happen and if you ever need to file a warranty claim with us, you can expect the best customer service in the industry!

Dobyns Rods Limited Lifetime Warranty

Thank You for purchasing your new Dobyns Rod! You'll be pleased to know that Dobyns Rods are covered by a Limited Lifetime Warranty against defects in materials and workmanship for the lifetime of the original owner. Please present your sales receipt or proof of purchase when making your warranty claim. Ship the complete damaged rod in a disposable container, prepaid and insured, directly to:

Dobyns Warranty Service
1400 Atlantic Avenue
Woodland, WA 98674

Please include a brief message explaining the problem with the rod, your return address, daytime phone number and a check or money order in the amount of $20 to cover return shipping and handling. If the return shipping destination is other than the United States or Canada, the actual return shipping cost will be assessed.

If the problem is due to a defect in materials or workmanship, the rod will be repaired or replaced as quickly as possible. If the problem is due to an unfortunate accident, misuse, alteration or normal wear and tear, we will advise you of the cost of the repair or replacement and await your approval prior to proceeding. Should we decide to replace the rod but no longer offer that model, we will replace it with the closest comparable model from our current product line.

This warranty is limited to the repair or replacement of the rod and does not cover consequential damages due to the failure of the rod unless they are specifically included under various state laws.

[b]Dobyns Rods 'No Hassle' Warranty Alternative

If you need to get a replacement rod immediately for that fishing trip tomorrow, simply take the damaged rod to your local Dobyns Rods Dealer and pay them a $50 replacement fee. They will keep your damaged rod and give you a new, same model rod, in return. No questions asked, no shipping, no waiting or wondering about warranty claim charges. This replacement is dependent on the dealer having inventory of your damaged rod model and their willingness to participate in this program.[/b]
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Warranty Claim Form

Have you ever heard of a fisherman returning a rod for warranty and it just disappears? Several months pass, and the angler is frustrated by the rod companyâ€™s ineffective efforts to â€œfindâ€

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:45 pm

The pocket fisherman and Dobyns rods do have something in common- they are both made in China!

Splash · Post by **Splash** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:50 pm

Multispecies wrote:The pocket fisherman and Dobyns rods do have something in common- they are both made in China!

Go back to Tackle Tour, Troll!

kb · Post by kb » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:19 pm

Multispecie you are correct that the Dobyns rods are made in China asare the Shimano's, Powells, Berkley's , Bass Pro, Cabelas, Fenwick and a host of others. You are right there are many good made in the US rods.

The problem is this.....what reel do you use that is made in the US, What hooks, got any Lucky Crafts in your boxes, River 2 Sea, Pradco, Rico's......I don't think there is a bass angler arouind that isn't buying products from ROC or Japan or wherever but there is very little fishing product made in the US.

Looking back on some of your posts you give a good endorsement of Kaenon glasses.......now where are they made???

I really don't know where the pocket fisherman is made but Gator has a rod locker full of them so maybe he can full us in

kb

Gator · Post by **Gator** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:24 pm

I only keep them around for when you fish with me kb....it's the only thing I am not worried about you dropping in the lake.......

Cooch · Post by **Cooch** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:31 pm

kb wrote:I really don't know where the pocket fisherman is made but Gator has a rod locker full of them so maybe he can full us in kb

Now wait a minute KB, Gator's on the Dobyns Rod staff!!! Gary's got a pocket fishermen out and he didn't send a sample product to me? Geeze, if'n he's not gonna invest in the "Coochie Special", least he could do is toss this ole dawg a pocket bone! Okay, I see how this game works! HAR! HAR! HAR!

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:32 pm

Nuke Nuke Big Brother!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Colebass · Post by **Colebass** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:35 pm

StockOption,

Thank you for sharing a great example of a great dealer with factory support, it makes for a great Customer experience!

I've known Gary for many years and he is a straight shooter, so when he says it's a problem and he'll take care of it,he will. He thinks like a consumer and not like your average business person. He doesn't use formula's and account practices that will get he and his company in trouble. Because in the end, that cost us all and he knows that.

Anyway, thank you again for the post.

Hollywood · Post by **Hollywood** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:35 pm

kb wrote:I don't think there is a bass angler arouind that isn't buying products from ROC or Japan or wherever but there is very little fishing product made in the US.
kb

Them Japanese sure make some great products! Even the biggest companies are fighting costs and going to china now! Just because it is made in china doesnt mean its junk, Hell The new Steez is made in Thailand!

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:43 pm

I respect the fact that Mr. Dobyns is your sponsor and you guys have his back. Thats the way it should be. Are Kaenon glasses produced in China now? If thats the case I will not be buying more.
Your right about the reels, I love my Cronarchs and Stradics but will at least try an Ardent for my next casting reel. All my saltwater stuff is Calstar with either Accurate or Penn 2 speeds. I have not bought any of the rods you mentioned in several years. I really do not patronize BPS or Cabelas much any more as I try to purchase tackle from locally based retail stores. I also think BPS is the king of the cheap made in China knock offs.
I know know a guy that is currently producing a popular lure in China for very little right now for very little and selling it for a premium (16.99) price.
Yea, I have an issue with 250.00 fishing rods and 60.00 baits being produced in China when you can buy comparable or better products made in the USA for the same money. The only reason is so a very few people can make more money and circumvent enviromental laws in this country.
I look and the country of origin for all my purchases now and think long and hard about buying based on where it is made.

Tobe · Post by **Tobe** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:53 pm

SHAFT wrote:That article mention anything about the Popeil Pocket Fisherman , I heard it has a mini tackle box in the handle .

No Shaft, if I recall there were a few rod manufactures not mentioned in Bass Master magazine.

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Tobe · Post by **Tobe** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:08 pm

Multispecies wrote: Are Kaenon glasses produced in China now? If thats the case I will not be buying more.
I look and the country of origin for all my purchases now and think long and hard about buying based on where it is made.

I suggest you take a hard look in your closets, tackle boxes, and maybe even the computer screen you are reading this post on, and if you are true to your word you will be having one big garage sale soon!

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:23 pm

Obviously it is pretty much impossible to not purchase items made in China or other countries abroad but I make an effort. With the exception of reels with fishing tackle there are plenty of options. And I would have to think a bunch of guys with 35,000$ trucks pulling 45,000$ boats that both get lousy mileage and paying tournament fees and all the other stuff could spend a little more tackle if it meant buying made in USA.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:54 pm

Hollywood wrote:Them Japanese sure make some great products!

Yes they certainly do.

Just last night I purchased 3 new lures from a Japanese retailer in Japan that actually saved me just over $15 versus purchasing them here in the USA (brick or on-line) and this included shipping. Only drawback is the 2-3 week wait.....

Kevin · Post by **Kevin** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:08 am

Hey Multi, that was a cheap shot you took there. Dobyn's Rods kick @ss. Who cares where they are made?

Splash · Post by **Splash** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:28 am

Kevin wrote:Hey Multi, that was a cheap shot you took there. Dobyn's Rods kick @ss. Who cares where they are made?

Multi seems to have made it his purpose in life to go from forum to forum taking cheapshots at Dobyns Rods for some reason. This isn't the first time we have bumped heads over the same type comments. I would like to see what rods he uses....

brambo0311 · Post by **brambo0311** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:45 am

I use dobynes, powell and loomis. The dobynes are a great rod, I would have more if I could afford it. What is funny is my father in law has never paid more than 12 bucks for a rod and reel combo. Everything he has is a ugly stick or uglier stick and he still sticks more fish than me. If it still has a guide near the tip and he can duct tape a reel to it, its a quality piece of fishing gear as far as he is concerned. Anything good I get him is a wall hanger cuz its to fancy to fish with. But with that said Dobynes is the best, and I really like the Powell cb glass for reaction baits. But I am sure Dobynes glass rods will be better when he releases them.

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:41 pm

Splash,
All the rods on my deck are Loomis with the exception of a couple Ordella customs and a phenix big bait special. I do not take cheap shots at Dobyns rods, I just point out where they are made. I will admit the whole hubub about another made in China product bugs the hell out of me. About a year ago I realized a large percentage of what we pick up in a tackle shop is made over seas. I get why people would buy Gammi hooks, LC lures Daiwa reels ect. as there is no real domestic counter part in many cases.
I will say I find it disapointing that something as uniquely American as Bass Fishing will source their products from China taking away jobs from Americans. And its not like the savings are being passed on to us, a few people are getting fat.

Is that you wearing the Kistler shirt on the web page listed in your Profile?

Splash · Post by **Splash** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:53 pm

Yep, that's me. I was with Kistler for 4 years before Dobyns. I guess what bothers me about your posts is you just jump in when the thread or topic has nothing to do with where they are made! The article from Bassmaster was a big deal but you felt it neccesary to take a crap on it, same as your post on Tackle Tour. Gary has not tried to hide where the rods are made, in fact was very public about it and I see no need or any purpose in you jumping in with your type of posts. I know this is a public forum and you're entitled to your opinion and entitled to post it but it just bothers me that you can't let someone have something like this. Post away, it's your right!

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:34 pm

So I guess it would be better if I just do a generic post about fishing stuff made in China in general? I was surprised to see BASS pimpin gear made in China but I guess I really shouldn't be as I suspect a bunch of their house branded stuff is made in there as well.
What do you mean taking a crap on it and my kind of post. Show me where I have disparaged either Mr. Dobyns or his rods?

kb · Post by kb » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:41 pm

Multi your profile says you work for Raley's. Does any part of your paycheck come from the profits Raleys or Bel Air make in the sale of imported products that could be made here in the US or do you feel stongly enough to not "get rich" from those products

kb

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:05 pm

Hey KB,
I suppose I should update my profile as I now am a Key Account Rep. for a company that sells both commodity items and product manufactured at our national headquarters in the LA area. Raleys is now one of my customers. Funny you mentioned that as Raley's recently ask me to furnish them country of origin info on what they buy from us as they seem to prefer product that does not come from China. At least in the food end of things.
Raley's as a company does a lot here in the community, partners with local business and pays it's employees a living wage with benifits and retirement.
There is a difference between almost having to buy some stuff made in China because that is what's available and doing one's manufacturing there because the labors cheap, the enviromental laws are lax and you can pocket more money. You are twisting the issue.

Splash · Post by **Splash** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:11 pm

Multispecies wrote:So I guess it would be better if I just do a generic post about fishing stuff made in China in general? I was surprised to see BASS pimpin gear made in China but I guess I really shouldn't be as I suspect a bunch of their house branded stuff is made in there as well.
What do you mean taking a crap on it and my kind of post. Show me where I have disparaged either Mr. Dobyns or his rods?

I mean that Ron C posted about the article in Bassmaster as a good thing that he was proud of, as he should be, and that Gary should be proud od and you felt it neccesary to jump in with the China remark. I fully understand the made in the USA stuff, but let's face it, the American way now is to go overseas for a less expensive product for more reasons than just more profit for the company. A well built rod built entirely in the U.S. is upwards of $400 and most fisherman can't afford a rod that costs that much. If you can, more power to you, but that is not the standard. And if you only knew what you think you know about who gets the majority of the profit, you'd know that it is the dealer, not the "big" company. I have the numbers, I know where the majority of the profit goes! And I also believe that the dealers are good ol' USA dealers, so the majority of the profit stays right here in the good ol' USA. I did not say that you made a disparging remark towards Mr. Dobyns personally.

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:25 pm

I believe the top end Dobyns sticks are 250.00. There are some very nice sticks available produced here for that money. Besides more profit for the company and skirting US enviromental laws what are the reasons for moving production to china?
Aren't rattletraps, Bill Norman Baits and Mann's baits produced in the US? I am not sure thats why I am asking.

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:38 pm

In my line of business (software engineering) the labor pool is far, far greater overseas than in the USA. If I open a position here in the USA I am lucky if I get one or two qualified candidates in a months time. The same position opened in China, Singapore or India willl easily land me 100+ candidates within a weeks time. (Sad but true reality.)

IMHO, "buy made in USA first" is admirable but unfortunately not realistic in today's global business climate. Most Americans are best served recognizing this and then figuring out how to best adapt to this climate so the USA can continue to enjoy the economic place it's held for decades.

NaCl · Post by **NaCl** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:47 pm

Last time I checked, Raleys gets their winter fruit imported from Chile where the labor laws and wages are much less favorable than in the USA.

.....NaCl

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:54 pm

Yea, they get oranges from Austraila in the off season as well. Some things only grow here during certain months.

crawdaddy · Post by **crawdaddy** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:24 pm

NACL,

That batch did not just have problems with the tips. I know of several that broke just above the reel in the "backbone" of the rod. This occurred on hooksets each and every time. Gary did respond to these occurrances. However when you are fishing with money on the line and your equipment fails you tend to lose faith in that brand. Not bashing just stating a fact. I witnessed the above events. Those that love them and/or are on the staff will support them and rightfully so, but there have been failures. And if they were from another person they probably would have been bashed heavily on this board.

Multispecies · Post by **Multispecies** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:36 pm

Hey Guys,
I appreciate the fact that you all debated this with me and we all kept it civilized. You made some great points. I am still going to be pro " Buy American" but my mind will be more open. Who knows, maybe I will even buy a Dobyns (gasp!) one day.
Thanks.
.

NaCl · Post by **NaCl** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:40 pm

The International Development Research Centre

â€œIn Chile, half of the male and 60 per cent of the female temporary workers in agriculture receive wages below the set minimum wage.â€

StockOption · Post by **StockOption** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:03 pm

Multispecies wrote:Hey Guys,
I appreciate the fact that you all debated this with me and we all kept it civilized. You made some great points. I am still going to be pro " Buy American" but my mind will be more open. Who knows, maybe I will even buy a Dobyns (gasp!) one day.
Thanks.
.

I agree, this is typically a very passionate, emotional debate topic.

I am very pro American, but I also work extremely hard for my money and I am averse to buying inferior products. I also think buying American simply because it's made in America sends the wrong message to our local manufacturers, they need to earn our business by supplying superior products not simply because they manufacturer goods in America.

Splash · Post by **Splash** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:49 pm

StockOption wrote:
Multispecies wrote:Hey Guys,
I appreciate the fact that you all debated this with me and we all kept it civilized. You made some great points. I am still going to be pro " Buy American" but my mind will be more open. Who knows, maybe I will even buy a Dobyns (gasp!) one day.
Thanks.
.
I agree, this is typically a very passionate, emotional debate topic.

I am very pro American, but I also work extremely hard for my money and I am averse to buying inferior products. I also think buying American simply because it's made in America sends the wrong message to our local manufacturers, they need to earn our business by supplying superior products not simply because they manufacturer goods in America.

Thanks, and our last debate ended friendly. I'm pro American myself, but not to the point of paying more for less. You should at least handle one of the Dobyns sticks!

basstamer · Post by **basstamer** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:54 pm

Whats happening on here anymore where ALL the topics turn into crap like this???? What happened to FISHING???? This is the kinda crap that needs to be nuked! Lets get back to fishin....I still cant wait to get my huge lot of Dobyns rods-chinese or not! Do I ENJOY paying $15-20 a pop for Lucky Crafts like Kurt is talking about??? No but there aint no Japenese dude standing behind me holding a gun to my head either-I choose to buy them because I like the performance and quality of them.And before you go with the old "your a better american than I am" s**t there aint a prouder american on here than me-when an american company makes a lure like Lucky Craft I'll be the first to buy them!Tight Lines fella's!
Scott

Triton Mike · Post by **Triton Mike** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:51 am

Multi, Do you realize that your G Loomis uses Cork from Portugal, Reel seats and guides from overseas? Bet you a donut the glue holding your rod together is from overseas as well. So technically your rod isn't 100% American made.

There is no stopping this overseas trend. I use American and Japan made reels, German made line and Dobyns rods because of the QAULITY of the products. I like anyone on this forum am an American Citizen. But you simply can't buy many fishing lures and flourocarbon lines anymore that ARE made in the US. It's a fact you really need to get used to and a trend that can't be reversed. Our economy is based on making the best quality product and offering it at the best price. Whether that is made in the US or made overseas.

I know for a fact that Gary tried like a madman to get his rods made in here in the US as I asked him this question. The price point just wasn't feasible. If Gary's rods where made here in the US your looking at atleast a 300.00 rod.

Mike

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