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You know after reading all of the threads and slamming of this TD or Circut vs that TD or Circut, I wonder to myself what sane person would want to be a TD?

I mean you get bad mouthed from people you thought were your friends or at least your supporters. You cann't do anything right without pizzing all over someone. If you give away a boat it is too small of a boat, if you dont then you are too cheap etc....

So my question is to current TD's or prior TD's WHY? What is there to gain for providing a tournament venue?
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SOCB_Hawghunter wrote:You know after reading all of the threads , I wonder to myself what sane person would want to be a TD?

hahah No SANE person would, that is why Gator is doing it now.
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I have not the foggiest idea why we volunteer, some times I think it a compulsive disorder that makes us do the things we do ! :twisted:

Sort of like swatting a bee hive standing in nothing but your scivies. You know that your going to get it in about 5 sec but ya just cant help your self and do it anyways. :shock:

I ll let ya know after the Winter Nut Case Classic I am doing, how things turn out. I just may head for another state or country after it. we will see. Nothing worse than a bunch of highly opinionated picky bass fishermen to make your day. either they love ya or hate ya.
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I dunno to me it seems that this is something that comes with the territory. Running tournaments at this level are businesses plain and simple.

Businesses should not have single points of failure, if they do they tend to not be in business very long.

Also, this business is one that one can be argued provides significant income, reward and even "ways of life" for it's paticipants. Given this no wonder it can and will evoke strong emotions, heated responses and heated debates when things don't go smoothly. At this level it's pretty easy to forget that at the end of the day "it's just fishing"....
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I dont feel that we are slamming the TD, just there were a bunch of anglers that were let down. This sport that we all love to fish in is pretty much a small family and when we are let down, well their is reporcussions. Im sure 100% did not see this coming and if so would have made the appropriate anouncements, but bottom line is the ball was dropped and there should have been a back up plan already established.

Like I mentioned before, this circuit is putting out on average $6 K in winnings and thats just for the top finisher. This is not small potatoes, for you tell me a job where I could make that kind of coin in an 8 hours day and send me an application for im in. Just stating that there should have been some way to avoid this. I mean if the TD was to pass away (god forbid, I do not wish that on no person, does that mean this whole circuit is done with? I would probabely have to say No. This organization has been around for sometime and yes this is probabely the first tournament that has been cancled in a long time, but bottom line is you have to have a back up plan so snafu's like this dont happen.

Brian I wish you would not be on the ban wagon on this, fo you know that the feelings and emotions typed on these threads are correct, you just scared of rocking the boat. :shock:
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HUH?
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I'm starting to wonder why I even read Westernbass.com with the posts made about the 100% tournament being canceled. I know that if I was in the same situation as Korny I would have done the same thing. No sense in making a bad situation worse.
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For me, I do it for one reason...to offer something better than the competition. I wish I could fish my own region of 100% BASS. I'd certainly make a lot more money if I fished them rather than run them.

What ruins it for me are the a*holes who will complain about anything and everything. I don't care how hard you work and how well each tournament runs, someone is going to bitch about something. That is the nature of bass fishermen in general. If you don't agree, try running a region someday.

What really amazes me also are the morons who have no problems pointing out flaws and offering their opinions on everything and they don't realize that 100% BASS is the only circuit that pays all of their money back. Like Tony mentioned, you guys who have flamed Bob and 100% should be ashamed. If you would rather win 70% of your money back and have a barbequed hot dog after the tournament, go fish some of the other circuits. By giving you guys the best return on your investment, you all owe 100% BASS and Korny a thank you, not a slap in the face.
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I personally am not "slapping" anyone in their face, just pointing out a flaw. Thats it nothing more nothing less. I agree that 100% is a good organization with a great return, but you can not sit here and say that it is perfect, there obviously was one flaw and it was discovered, just need to fix it just in case there is a next time.

Mr. linehan I agree with you that no matter what People will complain about what ever they can about a tournament. I fish a circuit where people always complain about the payback and to me when the entry fee is under $200 you cant expect a 10,000 return for 60 to 70 boats. Bottom line you TD's can never make anyone happy.

I believe that Korny made the right decision for his health and I would not expect him to make his condition worse to show up for a tournament, but there could have been someone else that could have stepped up and taken his place, maybe an assistant tournament director. Thats all im saying, no one is m-fing korny and reading the posts i believe everyone is wishing him a speedy recovery, just something that wasnt looked at as a possiblity happened and the fisherman just want to make sure that it will fixed, which im sure it will be.

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REASON; BECAUSE I LOVE IT. WE ARE DOING THE JIGS ANNUAL FALL CLASSIC #2 , IN NOVEMBER 2008 (WE MISSED 06 & 07 FOR SOME REASON)>>> AT DON PEDRO, FLEMING MEADOWS ONCE AGAIN. IT IS THE ONLY TIME OF YEAR THE WIFE LETS ME BE IN CHARGE, GIVE AWAY LOTS OF MONEY, SEE BIG FISH, AT SOMETHING I PUT TOGETHER.............

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Yes we will Jigs.....Yes we will....... :lol:
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I can answer this with the same feeling as Jigs -


"For the Love of the Game"

I love bass fishing, I love being around bass fisherman (most of them) and did I say I love bass fishing??? That's why I stepped up and offered to run a division that was not going to happen with out a TD. Will I do it after this year?? Time will tell. This is a sideline for me, not my primary focus. I will give it my total energy to make sure that it is a great circuit for those that fish. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. That simple. I will do my best to have fun and make sure my anglers have fun as well. I that's not enough for someone, oh well, it's all I can do.
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I like having fun Buddy. :P :P :P :P
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All of us 77'ers are behind You and Rip - 100% BrohA Gatorz --- and looking foreward to fish in your tourneys on the Delta and Folsom !! Image
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Guy,

Please take this with a grain of salt, but you are not a TD a nutcase event is special Totally different. If any nutcases bitch then they are all related to Dewayne and he is still mad about last years Folsom nutcase!!! HE HE HE :twisted: :twisted:
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Someone told me this once :lol:
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I wish everyone, especially those that are the most critical, would run six local tournaments just once in a year. After seeing and hearing all the petty complaints, that come up there, they surely would not want to take on and try to run a major tournament. Maybe then they would be more understanding of issues that pop up and sometimes can not be helped. i.e. last minute cancellations, sickness and lack of assistance. Again just my .02 worth. BIll K :roll:
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John Barron wrote:Someone told me this once :lol:
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Guys, I was not wanting this topic to be focused at one orginization or the other. I have met GREAT tournament directors, and one that I have the utmost respect for posted on this thread.

I have an understanding of what I think makes a great TD and at the club level I have held positions of Secretary, VP, President, however would never want to be a TD just for all of the BS that goes along with it. At best it is a thankless position, at worse you get thrown under the bus by people that to your face call you friend. I was just wondering if the payoff is worth the headache?

My hat is off to those people such as Gator, JB, CJ, Ron C etc... who still run events for the angler. It requires a certain amount of selflessness, huevos, and courage to be a touranment director in todays world.

I currently am only fishing competitivly at the club level, however I appreciate the pains and sufferings that the participant and orginizations go through to hold these events.
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As mentioned before, no SANE person takes on this job.

And I have to laugh out loud at the notion that these guys are making significant dollars doing what they're doing. The reality is far from that.

Nowadays anyone who throws up their hand gets appointed to the position. And it would seem that 'everyone' seems to think they can do a better job or have a better idea of how to do it. In reality, I can count the truly good TD's out there on my two hands. The rest are folks that are interim players or those that find out quickly that they're in over their head or just don't want to deal with the BS behind it all.

You know, when things go right the job is pretty darned easy. It's when you have to start making decisions that the job gets tougher much more quickly. I've been there, done that and honestly can't see myself doing it ever again. It's a thankless job.

Course running a bass fishing website or being a forum moderator is an equally thankless job. It's always fun to pour yourself into something that's a labor of love only to have people ignore your rules, post about how they don't know why they use your site over and again and about how the 'good ol' days' of what you're doing was so much better then what you've grown your site to become.

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sTony. You guys do a great job and the vast majority of us really appreaciate it. I am sure your blood pressure rise's occasionally and your hide is a lot thicker than when you started. But you can handle it, as keeping this site going proves. I and many other, I know, Thank you, even if we do not show it often enough. See you on the water and tight lines. BIll K :D
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I echo Bill's sentiments. I try to stay away from the poo flingin and that is not my intention behind this post.

Before I moved to NorCal from SoCal this site was an integral way for me to learn and utilize techniques that just werent being used much in SoCal. With that this site has greatly evolved me as a fisherman.

From a Social aspect this site has been huge in allowing me to network and make friends and memories of a lifetime. When my grand mother passed a guy from this site took me fishing in Idaho and we spanked the smalllies. From this site I have participated in the CO Teen Event, the Rally's, put together a fishing trip on CL for a week with a total stranger! Met John H who took me out for my first Delta trip where I reached my personal best, informed me of my current club etc....

Tony - I do appreciate your dedication that you put into westernbass.com and all of the contributors who really make this a commUNITY.
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There are many thankless jobs, occupations, and careers out there and there are just as many reasons why a person will work them!

For me to be TD, the fisherman would only receive 40% of his entry fees back plus I would take 50% of the option money. The way I would work the winning of a boat would be only 50% of the boat for the first win – you would have to win a second time to get the other 50% of the boat.

I would call the tournaments “Honest Joe’s Tournamentsâ€
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That was funny Jigs but c'mon really a Tazmanian Devil? :lol:

I didn't know Hal Huggins but Buzz Sachs was one TD that really sticks out in my mind and Sid McDonald was another.
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I may not be a TD but I do have several employee's.And I allway's wonder why do I put up with all this whining backstabbing snitching on each other.

Sometime's I wonder why in the hell did I even come in today.Being in charge,you know the jerk that make's all the decision's becouse someone has to,aint all it's cracked up to be. :lol:
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