My $6.05 to "Enhance" the Delta/Bay

[Thad O.]

yeah right, where's the "Enhancement"? How many years have we been paying this now? Has anyone noticed any "enhancements"? Show me an "enhancement" and I'll be happy about my donation. Or is that six bucks headed towards that record 14 billion dollar budget deficit? Hmmmm! Had to vent. cya

[DeltaDan]

Whatcha gona do ?


Fish illegally like Bro Dubberz ??



Sorry Dubberz - I hear you and Thad loud and clear !! I do remember back in '84-'86 that the Striper stamp was like $3.20. (how the Delta Stamps started in the first place) -- When the Liscence was $16.40 if memory serves me correct ??


Just like death and taxes ~~ "You gotta pay the Man -- or swim against the tide" (old blues artist that I can't correctly remember to quote)

[brambo0311]

There is actually no planed action for that money to go to yet. Its just banked for future stuff. That means when enough people complain they will appoint a burocracy over the bay delta enhancment funds to misapropriate it into something we have no interest in.

[senko-guru]

Well personally I have not seen it, but Im sure that DFG will be utiliazing the money appropriately. They are in the process of removing sunken ships in the delta and other projects. I believe the enhancement stamp has only been going on for the last 4 years if im correct. Besides the Delta has a huge alligator problem that needs fixin also. It will come in time, keep your head up!

[fish_food]

I believe the enhancement stamp has only been going on for the last 4 years if im correct.

The "enhancement" stamp only been in existence the last few years because the public got wise to its predecessor, the Striped Bass Stamp. Revenues from the Striped Bass Stamp were put into the General Fund to be spent by unrelated agencies on unrelated issues...

[DeltaDan]

There is actually no planed action for that money to go to yet. Its just banked for future stuff.

You are 110% correct Brother Brambz -- Everyone else ~~ If you have never attended a DFG Commisions Meeting -- Try to make it a goal for 2k8 just to attend. -- and ask freely your questions to them in this matter. They will throw out the satandard answers at every meeting.


Eye opening stuff just to say the least. The ammount of monies just from stamps and portions of fee's alone tied up in a seperate beaurocy that they can not toutch w/o special permission -- $2.8 Mil+ was the # last thrown around that I heard. (2004/2005)


Granted $2.8 Mil wont by you a new bridge into Bethel Island in todays market -- but the monies are there ~~ and they are not making any improvments..... only more restrictions ~~ all the while bankrolling all our added fee's since then.

Give us 1 full time roving DFG Warden with a Back-up officer with those monies for the Delta -- and a special task night shift to catch all the poachers. Enfore the fines/penalties to the fullest extent of the law, take possession of their boats, tackle, vheicles ... So that they can sustain themselves.. We could possible have our resources protected even further than any restocking program costing 10fold could ever scratch the surface of.

[bruizer343]

No kidding Senko them alligators are something else,

Me n the kids tried to keep Lizards to use for bait, nothing exotic just the Lizards ya find locally. My nephews are fascinated with the Lizards and they think Bass will eat em. My oldest nephew has begun a research project on Salamander Lizards, very restricted and plenty of ridiculous Bans on keeping them as Regulated. I aint the brightest bulb on the lamp, but boy howdy my nephews and this innernet sure do come up with some interesting Lizards from all over.

The kid tells me there is a rubber Lizard bait out there from a bass professor. Anyone know about this Lizard Bait ?

tight lines,

B343

[brambo0311]

I got a couple of giant salamander baits. I dont remember who makes them. They work Ok for bed fish but there is better stuff. My son has one of them in the bath tub toys. Bruise I know a great place to see thousands of Salamanders for the kids on the coast. Van dam state park south of fort brag. Hike along the creek that goes through the middle. Thousands of salamanders in different colors.

[Joe W.]

No kidding Senko them alligators are something else,

Me n the kids tried to keep Lizards to use for bait, nothing exotic just the Lizards ya find locally. My nephews are fascinated with the Lizards and they think Bass will eat em. My oldest nephew has begun a research project on Salamander Lizards, very restricted and plenty of ridiculous Bans on keeping them as Regulated. I aint the brightest bulb on the lamp, but boy howdy my nephews and this innernet sure do come up with some interesting Lizards from all over.

The kid tells me there is a rubber Lizard bait out there from a bass professor. Anyone know about this Lizard Bait ?

tight lines,

B343

Interesting.

[DeltaDan]

Bro Dubbers-


So far -- 1/2 day missed on work -- transportation and sitting around - again for another 3 hours standing/sitting around the 2and time -- only to Reschele and play the game again in the future.


DAYUM ~~ I LOVE HOW YOU STICK TO YOUR PRINCIPLES !!




... Alot from that can be learned from just your situation alone in todays messed up world of protesting what is wrong in the flaws of our system ~~ and what is Right !



Sometimes the Electronic Fishing Liscence (witch did not come to being this year) -- If it could be tied into the Officers hand held PC ..... makes a little sence.

-- as long as it is 100% infallable and easy for the officers to access/compare to your photo ID CDL ....... as well as their is a 2and way for the Private Party Boats and one day Liscence holders as well to still charter on short term tags for resident/non-residents alike of fish from shore.

[ken]

Sure they are going to enhance the delta. Didn't you hear they are going to put dams in the delta and funny thing is they called it enhancement. Now you know

[Dan McKenzie]

It's easy to complain, or you could become involved-choice is yours.

Overview
A Bay-Delta Sport Fishing Enhancement Stamp (BDSFES) is required to fish in San Francisco Bay, the Delta, and the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers, including major tributaries, below the most downstream dam.

The BDSFES Program has authority to spend $1 million a year on projects that benefit sport fish populations, sport fishing opportunities, and anglers within the stamp's geographic range. The types of projects the BDSFES Program has funded include angler access, scientific research and monitoring, enforcement, fisheries conservation, and education. At this time, the Department and the BDSFES Advisory Committee are interested in funding projects that benefit Bay-Delta sport fish populations. In 2008, the Department will solicit proposals for specific projects through the Request for Proposal (RFP) process. For more information on BDSFES funding opportunities, please contact Karen Mitchell by e-mail at kmitchell@dfg.ca.gov or at (916) 445-0826.

[Sean Graf]

They should take that money and enhance the rivers so the salmon can have better spawning grounds.

[fish_food]

It's easy to complain, or you could become involved-choice is yours.

Overview
A Bay-Delta Sport Fishing Enhancement Stamp (BDSFES) is required to fish in San Francisco Bay, the Delta, and the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers, including major tributaries, below the most downstream dam.

The BDSFES Program has authority to spend $1 million a year on projects that benefit sport fish populations, sport fishing opportunities, and anglers within the stamp's geographic range. The types of projects the BDSFES Program has funded include angler access, scientific research and monitoring, enforcement, fisheries conservation, and education. At this time, the Department and the BDSFES Advisory Committee are interested in funding projects that benefit Bay-Delta sport fish populations. In 2008, the Department will solicit proposals for specific projects through the Request for Proposal (RFP) process. For more information on BDSFES funding opportunities, please contact Karen Mitchell by e-mail at kmitchell@dfg.ca.gov or at (916) 445-0826.

Get involved? Ha ha...that's funny. Not to sound like a defeatist but all the backroom deals have already been agreed upon. Everything else is an illusion and they're just going through the motions with their soliciting of stakeholder input...

[Jay Rowan]

Good projects have to be submitted in order for the money to be given out. From what I understand there were not that many projects submitted in the first place and most were not very good ones and/or did not meet the requirements Dan posted above. It's better to hold the money and wait for a good project than waste it on one that will provide little to no benefit.

One project that was funded with stamp money is the rebuilding of the boat ramp on the American River at the Sunrise access, which falls under "improving angler access".

[brambo0311]

Access to what at sunrise? How is the salmon and steelhead fishing the last few years? Dont get me wrong I can catch fish, but it hasnt been that great for a few years. And saying a 2000 dollar dock is are money at work, well crap. How about some fish ladders around some of these dams? If the government was an actual bussiness it would be tilled under by now. Government needs some serious corporate down sizing. Mabey then, some of our taxes and stamps will not get eaten up by some usless burocracy.

[Jay Rowan]

Access to the American River.
I think the price tag on rebuilding that ramp (not a dock) is probably a little higher than 2 grand. The original post asked if anyone has seen any enhancement. There is an example of an enhancement to anglers that fish the American River. It was just one example of several of the projects that were funded with the stamp money. You could probably look up the others on the internet or call the number Dan listed.
The Salmon fishing was not great the last two years, but the same number of smolts were put in 4 and 5 years ago, as are every year. Returns aren't always the same. It was outstanding salmon fishing for at least the 5-6 years before the last two right? The problem isn't in the # of fish leaving the river so ladders won't help that, and as was stated earlier, they only have 1 million a year to spend. What do you think a ladder over Nimbus and Folsom dams would run?

[ken]

lets see-------------I can hear it now, we are $14 bil short this year and we have $2+ mil over here for enhancement. duh

[Eldon Vieira]

I never go to the delta why do I have to pay the stamp to fish here in redding for something that won't help where I'm fishing

[fish_food]

I never go to the delta why do I have to pay the stamp to fish here in redding for something that won't help where I'm fishing

The DFG expanded their definition of what constitutes the Delta (it now includes the Sacramento River all the way to the dam up at Shasta!) so they could collect more revenues!