Salt bath dip tanks? Quagga kill

[DougH]

I'm just wondering how long the salt water contact needs to be for a "kill" of the quagga. Perhaps we have an easy answer here, although we will then also have to deal with the problems of the salt water.
Maybe a dip into the saltwater tank for a few minutes, then a dip into a clean water rinse tank?

I dunno, I just like hearing everything that's remotely an answer or a partial answer to the Quagga problem...

[cLanderman]

They weren't lying when they said it doesn't take long to spread. Just a little more then a year and a half or so ago they announced them in a few places in Lake Mead, and now you pull them up when dragging baits on the bottom quite frequently.

Tiny little annoying shells.

[Mike Giusti]

DougH,

They have looked into dipping boat but it is a complicated issue. How do you maintain the concentration and how do you make sure it isn't going to affect the lake that you are going into. Also, I think more information would be needed on expose time to be sure a veliger or adult mussel would be killed. My understanding is the veliger would die very quickly but I am not sure how quick that is. The adult mussels takes more than an hour in salt water and even that may not be 100% effective. Then the question becomes how do you treat the bilge and livewells in most boats. I don't think any of us want to back a boat in and let salt water flow into the bilge or through the drain plug holes. There are self contained boat washing station that are available but not cheap. This may be the long term answer. It may be that only boats are coming from other lakes have to be washed or develop some way to track boat that are only using a lake. If all boats have to be washed coming or going then more than one washing station would be required. Even if it only take 4 or 5 minutes to wash down a boat and there is 40 boats trying to get into a lake it could take 3 hours or more to get in if every boat has to be washed.

I wish there was an easy solution but as long as everybody keeps talking about the mussels and makes the effort to prevent their spread hopefully we can keep the lakes open for eveyone to use.

Mike

[tunaman]

Having previously owned an ocean boat, I can tell you I for one don't want my Ranger anywhere near saltwater! That is one of the most corrosive agents known.

Clearly, the impetus is on the boat owners to do their part to be "CLEAN and DRY", not just for bass boat owners but any who use the lake resources. I agree that the word needs to be spread far and wide (and LOUDLY!) and will do my part where ever possible. I fear that the boating community is not the sole means of transport and that, like the stripers, some infestation is inevitable. HOWEVER, I will continue to maintain an optomistic outlook and do whatever part I can to help the cause.

Roger
"CLEAN and DRY"

[Ray L.]

I used to run my bass boats in the bay all the time.
As long as you do a complete wash down every time and make sure to do a good wipe down with the pink stuff you are good to go.
You must flush your motor as well.
CLEAN AND DRY

[Gerryjig]

from what I understand, a good salt run through your motor will break down hard-water deposits from the lakes and rivers. I would not recommend doing this very often though as the salt does get to everything sooner or later.........better get used to "salting" cause with the possible lake closures, the only thing left will be the ocean.....well maybe not with the 08 MLPA's....damn, we're screwed! my bass boat hasn't gotten wet in quite some time (1st NBW Castaic)....Casitas? I'm good to go!

[Ron T.]

I know a credit card type set up for tracking boats and where they have been would take lots of time and money to set up but , if all so cal lakes got together and had the same type of card with a calender printed on it and the date was punched out before entering a lake , the location and date could be monitered . Each lake would have a spacific punch . Lakes with the muscle with a star and clean lakes with a circle . The card has boat CF number writen in permanent marker or ? One card per registerd owner . Kinda like a fishing licence . No card , no entry . Just a brain fart .

[John Barron]

One thing that has been discussed is to have the annual stickers that go next to your CF #'s bar coded. Each time you went into a lake you would be scanned and would be put into a national data base so you could be tracked as to where you have been. Lots of issues with this because it would have to be a national deal but has possiblities
jb
"Clean and Dry"

[cLanderman]

Another problem you would see with the bar code scanner, or something like a credit card, would be the fact that we are all on the water at WayToEarly:AM and the park service, etc. is usually not at the gates yet.

[John Barron]

That's one of the problems discussed, many places don't have gate control full time. Some places don't have gates at all, free launch or in private communities, border checks need to be strictly enforced, cooperation between states can sometimes be tough. There are a ton of problems but not impossible
jb
"Clean and Dry"

[tunaman]

That's certainly one of the best suggestions I've heard so far... maybe a separate UPC sticker for the trailer so someone can scan with a hand wand while they're parked (if they didn't get them coming in the gate)?

Definitely need something like that, rather than the 'under the penalty of perjury' bs that won't validate a thing.

Roger

[Kelly Ripa]

They have drive through toll roads with fast pass...It can be done and if Arnie is smart he'll require it.....

[tunaman]

Yeah, but unlike FastPass it needs to be affixed to the boat or trailer so there is no passing or sharing. In order to be effective it must be foolproof.

I'm also interested in what other measures officials are taking, not related to the recreational boater? I'm very fearful that, in spite of complete and thorough efforts on our part, they will infiltrate the waters by other means and we will still suffer the consequences.

Roger

[hippie]

That explains the size of my man hood. its not small cause im chinese its the surfing that killed the size damn it. I hate my dad for being surfer