Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?

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Don't want to be a rumor monger, but I wanted to see if there is any truth to one of the top finishers losing a fish because of the net and a non-boat stab? Just interested in the story. How many guys have had this happen?

I almost knocked a frog fish off the line with the net last year in the AC Pro-Am at Clear Lake. Andy asked me, "whats wrong with you dude"?

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Thats true. It happened to Dee Thomas. It was an honest mistake by his co-angler(from what I can tell) and Dee chewed him out accoringly. Dee and his Co-Angler were talking about it on stage at he live weigh in on Day 2.
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Yep, it cost him 8 1/2 pounds for the day!! He only weighed in 15 that day with a 1 1/2 pounder in his bag. That sucks :cry:
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I was rooting for Dee, thats to bad
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That 8 1/2 pounds would have gotten him 3rd. Cost him $12k
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Dan, why you have to stir the pot !! hehe If that did in fact happen i'm sure the AM felt horrible. Its fishing and sometimes misfortunes happen. I would have hated to be the AM that did it though, i'm suprised he didnt have to swim back to weight in.
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Not that it cost him that much money but there was a another angler that lost a nice fish as well.He was bringing his BAGS along the dock and as he was going around the corner to head up the ramp he slipped and fell and one of his bags opened up and a nice fish went swimming away.Guess that weigh cost him a check.I watched as he went down,that was messed up.That dock was really slippery.
As for the Mr Thomas fish that was a bad deal.The co angler said he was so scared and nerves had never seen a fish so big.He was truely sorry(I think this was his 1st tournament like this).I can't imagine how it would have gone though if I were to to lose such a fish in the same way and cussed out my pro for it?The co said he got a pretty good cussing from Mr Thomas.And when he refered to Dee he would say'Mr Thomas",so he was showing the respect due to him.
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In my opinion, when a fish is lost, at the boat, I think it's equal amounts of blame. It's not always just the "netters" fault. A lot of the time, even the Best get a little careless and try to rush the deal.
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This has nothing to do with netting but.

Last year at the Clear Lake Elite Series I was paired with Jared Litner Saturday and he had me lip his 8# + fish that was hooked on a swimbait.

Talk about scary.
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Murph wrote:In my opinion, when a fish is lost, at the boat, I think it's equal amounts of blame. It's not always just the "netters" fault. A lot of the time, even the Best get a little careless and try to rush the deal.
I agree if it just came off. Happends all of the time. But Dee said the dude stabbed at the fish with the net and knocked it off.
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Without a doubt, i would hate to mess up a netjob and lose a fish for anyone. Nobody wants that to happen. But from my perspective, its NEVER the net guys "FAULT". Fault represents blame and responsibilty, and thats not what the non boater is there for. Having anyone net your fish for you is a courtesy and never a responsibility or obligation of the non-boater. this is partly why the Elite Series has the no-net rule. No interaction between boater and non-boater.

Being upset, dissapointed, and otherwise pissed is expected. i dont know anyone who wouldnt be after having a big fish get away. But nobody should be yelling at the other guy. it was a unfortunate act.

If you want 100% control of the situation, then net your own fish. problem solved!

Sh*t happens, you get pissed, you get over it, and then you move on. i am sure that's what Dee did.

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Mike wrote: Dee said the dude stabbed at the fish with the net and knocked it off.
Thats what I would say too.
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kopper_bass wrote:Without a doubt, i would hate to mess up a netjob and lose a fish for anyone. Nobody wants that to happen. But from my perspective, its NEVER the net guys "FAULT". Fault represents blame and responsibilty, and thats not what the non boater is there for. Having anyone net your fish for you is a courtesy and never a responsibility or obligation of the non-boater. this is partly why the Elite Series has the no-net rule. No interaction between boater and non-boater.

Being upset, dissapointed, and otherwise pissed is expected. i dont know anyone who wouldnt be after having a big fish get away. But nobody should be yelling at the other guy. it was a unfortunate act.

If you want 100% control of the situation, then net your own fish. problem solved!

Sh*t happens, you get pissed, you get over it, and then you move on. i am sure that's what Dee did.

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Ya know, There is something to be said about an individual that can take an Arse chewing (when ya goofed up) and still show respect .....To that person, I say hold your head up "sh%t happens" , There isn't a Pro out there that hasn't had a "Learning experience" .......
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Ya thats why the am is in the back in the first place he/she is still learning. I think that it is a good idea for the pro to tell the am what he expects him to do as the net man. Maybe give a tip or two? Comunication is key and when there is a BIG fish we get excited and make bad decisions.
I pull a big fish off at the boat in the holder because my buddy was ready with the net the fish came out of the water and i tried to get it to the net (dumb as$) :oops:
Its just to bad it happened to Dee, I think we were all rooting for him. Hope he fishes onother 20 years!! I will carry his bag of fish anyday!!!
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When I talked with Dee about it yesterday, he told me it was ultimately his own fault. He had a hot fish in shallow water and an inexperienced netter. As far as that poor co-angler, here you had an inexperienced neophyte fishing with an icon Hall-of-Famer...talk about pressure! Even Dee understands that. Course, there are about 183 other anglers who would have been happy to have Dee's finish! LOL!

Ultimately, it's all part of fishing and successful guys like Dee and Dobyns know how to overcome such moments and stay focused. It's a great lesson for anyone who aspires to fish high level tournaments.

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The guy that slipped at the dock lost a fish that would have gone 5+. He had four bags, he missed out on taking a check buy like only 3-4 pounds. That bites. At least he had the fish in hand. Last summer I had a fish on a frog that was a DD. Lost it when it was only 10 feet fromm the boat. One of the largest fish I have ever hooked. It tore me up inside for the rest of the day. What made it worse, we took 3rs place and lost by only a three pounds. That big ol pig would have gave me 28-30lbs, would have smoked every one and had big fish. THAT IS FISHING, going to to go get me another big pig this year and put her fat but in the well and I will feel better!
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Out of all the years I've been doing this bass fishin thing, the MOST nervous I have ever been was NOT when I had a 10 lber on the line (which happened twice when I was a rookie, and I lost them both :cry: )...but when I was the net guy for a 16-lber. Eventhough it was just a club tournament, it was a SIXTEEN POUNDER. I didn't know whether to reach way out or what. That fish didn't even look real it was so big.

I swear I didn't breathe once during the entire three minutes until it was safely in the boat. I think I was probably more nervous as the net guy than if I had hooked it myself.

I feel for the co-angler in this case.

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It's just another one that got away... Making a bad choice in who you ask to net a fish is no different than knocking it off yourself... That is what communication is all about, net skills should have been discussed earlier that morning.

Assuming that the co-angler made an honest mistake, Dee should have shut up and not "chewed him out". If you don't like a rookie accidentally knocking yer fish off the line, don't tell them to get the net... It's that simple.

If Dee did indeed "chew out" that co-angler for an honest mistake, then shame on Dee... That is uncalled for... Regardless of how upset he may have been. Granted it is sad he lost the fish, but be a man about it. That co-angler is a human being, not a dog, and he was just trying to help. If anything he needed a helpful lesson in how to net a fish, not verbal abuse for trying to help.
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I only fished one tournamnet with Dee, and the most nerve racking part of the whole thing was netting his fish when he got em' on...We launched out of the Break that morning and 118 other competitors were just staring at us before blast off...Adrenaline was sky high, never had that many people wanting to put a whoopin' on me at once...Dee was in heaven, har!!!...I thought I was going to need boxing gloves with all those stares!!!...

Dee went right to the fish...In approxamately 10 minutes, I think he put 19 lbs. of fish in the boat...I had practically no time to fish, all I was doing was netting...I didn't screw up that morning but man was I a nervous wreck worrying about making a mistake with that net...I know it must not of been easy for his co-angler in the FLW...A much bigger event with tons of $$$ on the line...

I'm just wondering now if the question may be, do you net your own fish with that much money on the line?...The Pros don't know a lot of these co-anglers and their skills at netting...I think I might yell for the net, but that for the other guy to give it to me so I may net it myself...Any thoughts on that???...Do any Pros net their own fish that you've seen or heard of???...
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Maybe he should get into a work out program and get in shape. Then he could net his own fish. 8) Butch Brown didnt have a problem netting his own 19+ the other day.
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I have had one tournament where I netted my own fish because I did not like the co-anglers netting style and coaching was not working. It is our choice so it is tough to blame a co-angler if a fish is not netted properly. I know on a couple tournaments where I have not been familiar with the co-angler or his netting ability I have given a demonstration of how I would like my fish netted before the tournament started. Teaching a person to properly net fish is one of those things you can do that can pay big dividends through the day.

It is pretty easy to blame the person with the net, but in reality we land fish after fish with no net in pre-fish. Lost fish are usually a combination of errors.
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Once I had my am just stare at a 12lber I caught on a swimbait. When I got it by the boat he froze and the fish shook off right in front of us when I tried to turn it around. Never put the net in the water. And I did describe to him how to net fish that morning, especially swimbait fish. I think the size of the fish scared him.

Before every launch I always describe to my ams how they should net a fish. (and when not to) I have had ams miss really hot fish that jumped at the net but never knock one off of blow the net job. Never assume someone knows how to do it well. Communication is the key to having a good day in the boat.

But hey, this is life. We all make mistakes. Good communication can help eliminate a lot of them.
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After watching the East -West Fishoff, I came to the conclusion, that I probably wouldn't enjoy spending the day with Mike ((the Legend) Folkstad. First, let me say, I know Mike and I like Mike, but he seemed to put just a little bit of pressure on the guy netting his fish. That pressure will often lead to mistakes.
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Bet that chewin' out would have made a Drill Seargent blush! HA!
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Dewayne, nice going in the FLW...Looks like you were getting better everyday!...
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You know iam about to get the dung flying.

In my own opion the non boater should show nothing but respect to a boater.And as far as knocking of a fish i would be poed.And for a guy that is at that age and can teach a person a whole bunch and has been around he has his rights.Heck to learn something from Mr.Thomas he can cuss me out all darn day.I have fished as a non Boater for so long i have been cussed out by some darn donkey and i heald my head high even if it was that they broke there line on a rock and said it was a nice fish.

You know in my own opion we all took something from Mr.Thomas and it helped us out in the long run.But he cussed out a non boater one time in 70 years and people are angry with him.
If you want to be angry.Not to bring up old wounds but what about mike (IKE)When he threw the AMERICAN FLAG in the drink you know to this day my dad is hurting from the wounds he got fighting for that flag and hes not the only one, take a look in youre family and tell me if any veteran in your family is not hurting,And disrespected more than that flag but our familys health.

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In my own opion the non boater should show nothing but respect to a boater.


Kenny,Respect goes both ways.Just because I am a co, do I not deserve the same respect?Just because I cannot afford a boat or the entry of $3500.00 does that make me less of a person?Do I have less LOVE for bass fishing?I just drove over 2100 miles in all to 0 on day one of a tournament(DELTA) that I looked vey forward to and I would and will do it again at Lake Mead(but hope to catch fish).I always try to show all people the respect they are do wether on or off the water.And this non boater did show Dee respect by calling him Mr Thomas,and he was as hurt or more by what happened.GB...Jim
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Kenny,
i dont think anyone is intending to be mad at Dee or anything like that. - surely not me.

I think everyone is just expressing that no matter what, a non boater is not at FAULT for anything that happnes with the net, its just a part of the game. So nobody should come on here and bash that poor guy, or claim he lost thousands of dollars for Dee, etc. etc. or for that matter take a side on who is to blame.

in such a situation, there just isnt any blame, its just all apart of fishing.

Now if your best buddy does that to you in a Team Tourney 'cause he's jealous that your spankin' the fish and he's not,...... well then those are actions for fighting! Har! Har!

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I fished a WON bass pro/am on the Delta w Mike Tuck a few years back. He had a big first day and explained very clearly at the start of our day (#2)he did not want me trying to net a hot fish... just wait till she's ready he said...... he had a bank loaded with giant bedfish

At our first spot, not five minutes into the day, Mike stuck a toad blind fishing a senko on a bed... I guessed 8-9lbs, he said 9-10lbs..... anyhow, she came straight at the boat as hot as can be then went under for a second.... I couldn't have netted her then even if I tried... but I waited like I was told. Then she comes back out for a split second and Mike yells "get her get her get her" and she was gone. I said I was waiting cuz she was still hot and he just told me a few minutes earlier not to do it... Mike then told me the fish just came unhooked and paused on the surface for that split second not realizing she was free ta go. He said there's no way I could have known but I would have been the man if I had got her... it happens.............. I tried to make up for later by puttin two 6's in the boat for him,, he still took a top 10 check, but he woulda won it with that one....
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This has been a complaint in FLW for years, a coiple years back it was a South Delta angler and one missed/knocked off by a gal from the South. FLW could solve this problem simply by not allowing nets.

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Respect??

I don't give respect to people cause they can catch fish, or they are a legend of bassfishing. (no disrespect to Dee)

Respect is earned on an individual basis.....

I don't care who you are, if someone cusses me out we gotta problem..

sh#t happens on a daily basis. To bad for Dee, and the Co-angler, but cussing someone out is not gonna help the problem!
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Yeah, i agree with G-man, "respect". I understand there is money on the line and a trophy and all, but if its so dam important then do it your dam self and don't put "your" future in some novice's hand. Bass Elite don't use nets.
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DAN wrote:FLW could solve this problem simply by not allowing nets.

If the ABA did that ..... I WOULD BE OUT OF A JOB !! :shock:
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g-man wrote:Respect??

I don't give respect to people cause they can catch fish, or they are a legend of bassfishing. (no disrespect to Dee)

Respect is earned on an individual basis.....

I don't care who you are, if someone cusses me out we gotta problem..

sh#t happens on a daily basis. To bad for Dee, and the Co-angler, but cussing someone out is not gonna help the problem!
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Totally agree. Don't care is it is the President of the USA, respect is earned.
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You guys that dont "Respect" Dee need to take a history lesson! This man has done more for bass fishing than most. He is in the Hall of fame. He is 71 years old and still kicking the young-un's a$$ and still living his dream. I'm not saying you have to "Like" him. But I think he has earned his "Respect".
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I fished a pro-am at clear lake and missed netting a swimbait fish as the pro had laid three rods across the net and when I grabbed for the net two rods went throught the netting getting intangled and boy did he chew on my butt. I set down all upset for his error for putting his rods were he did and blaming me for not being there with the net as the fish jumped and got off. I could have kicked him out of the boat I was hot. I was there to fish not to fight with him as it was a shared weight and I looked at it as we were a team. It couldn't have been 15 minutes later he spotted a large bass suspended under a dock and said watch this. He grabbed a carp pattern swimbait and pitched it at the edge of the dock allowing the bait to splash loud and sink to the bottom now watch my line he said, in just moments it jumped and he set the hook. He knew it was part his fault for the net being intangled as he made sure all rod stayed clear of the net. but he never apolagized, I grabbed for the net and stood ready this time and as the 8 lb'er jumped, this one also through the swimbait but this time I cought the fish in mid air at least two feet out of the water. I was a herro and boy did he thank me. But let me tell you this the part I remember the most about this event is the butt chewing I didnt desirve. I still didnt talk to him the rest of the day even thought we did lead the event on the first day.
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It may not be all that often that I totally agree with Mike, but Dee has done everything he needed to do to win our respect..Now for the butt chewing incident, you gotta be in that situation and realize the sudden disappointment experienced by Dee..He lashed out, probably not even really thinking about it as many of us would also have done..It is easy for us to now, to say it was wrong and even Dee knows that..But that moment is gone and neither he nor anyone else can get it back..I haven't lost any respect for the man because of this incident, do I give him more because of it, absolutely not..No doubt it may have some effect on the young man fishing with Dee that day, but chances are he will live through it and probably learn a little also..If nothing else this should show each of you that Dee is still human, he can make mistakes also..

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Mike wrote:You guys that dont "Respect" Dee need to take a history lesson! This man has done more for bass fishing than most. He is in the Hall of fame. He is 71 years old and still kicking the young-un's a$$ and still living his dream. I'm not saying you have to "Like" him. But I think he has earned his "Respect".
I have respect for what he's accomplished and what he's done for the bass fishing world, but that doesn't mean I have to respect him or anyone else as a person. I don't know the guy personally but if I made an honest mistake and got screamed at for it, respect is out the window.

So an Am has to show respect to a pro, but the am who makes an honest mistake doesn't deserve to be treated with respect?

I mean come on, I am sure the am was devistated that he knocked Dee's fish off. He doesn't need to be yelled at for it. **** happens.
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I agree 100%. Dee has done a lot for fishing that is true. He doesn't however have the right to belittle a fellow angler for making an honest mistake.
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lippy wrote:
In my own opion the non boater should show nothing but respect to a boater.

You know in my own opion we all took something from Mr.Thomas and it helped us out in the long run. But he cussed out a non boater one time in 70 years and people are angry with him.
If you want to be angry. Not to bring up old wounds but what about mike (IKE)When he threw the AMERICAN FLAG in the drink

GIVE THE GUY RESPECT WHERE RESPECT IS DUE
Ya know Kenny, it's funny you should mention Ike and the American Flag incident...

I do not like Ike one little bit, but not just for the American Flag incident, that was just icing on the cake as far as I am concerned...

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Re: Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?

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maybe they should have tryouts :lol:
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I think try outs would be a mute point in this day and age. Even if they were no good they would still have to be partnered up to avoid hurting anyones feelings :lol: :lol: **disclaimer this is a shot at little leauge try outs not a stab at any single person**

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Re: Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?*NM*

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Re: Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?

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Dee should have used bigger/sharper hooks with a better rod and line since he is not getting any younger and probably can't swing on those flipped fish like he once used to. :wink: He is usually fairly jovial in front of the cameras, but I don't know what he is really like usually. Yet, no matter what the circumstances are, yelling is typically not very effective and rarely resolves anything (except for possibly yelling at some one who is about to walk into traffic). However, if yelling doesn't work, try VIOLENCE!! :lol: This kind of relates to that "tourney fishing versus fun fishing" post. If you yell at strangers and/or friends during a tourney, then maybe you are fishing for the "wrong" reason(s) and are not compatible with the tourney format (anymore) and should consider joining a hostile debate club. :roll: Interestingly enough, no one in this thread has mentioned how to "properly" net a fish in order to educate those who may have a "netting disability!" :lol: I have to say kudos to Mr. Dean Sault, who years ago, calmly explained to me how he would like me to net his 5 lbs fish while it was dangling at the end of his line deep in some tulles. Decades before that, I was shown by my considerate tourney fishing partner how "most" would like their fish netted. Darndest thing is it is somewhat like salmon fishing and you keep the net partially down in the water until the "skilled pro" guides the fish towards/into the net while both parties "carefully" work TOGETHER! :shock: I'll tell you what, I don't care if it is Roland, Bill Dance, etc. and especially if a "pro" who is still technically a stranger, yelled at me for something that they too had to be equally blamed... I would gladly help him test his personal floatation device by swiftly guiding my foot up his #@%$. :D By the way, I too lost a 10 lber in the Delta and would like someone to return it if they find it. Thanks. 8)
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Re: Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?

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nipples wrote:It's just another one that got away... Making a bad choice in who you ask to net a fish is no different than knocking it off yourself... That is what communication is all about, net skills should have been discussed earlier that morning.

Assuming that the co-angler made an honest mistake, Dee should have shut up and not "chewed him out". If you don't like a rookie accidentally knocking yer fish off the line, don't tell them to get the net... It's that simple.

If Dee did indeed "chew out" that co-angler for an honest mistake, then shame on Dee... That is uncalled for... Regardless of how upset he may have been. Granted it is sad he lost the fish, but be a man about it. That co-angler is a human being, not a dog, and he was just trying to help. If anything he needed a helpful lesson in how to net a fish, not verbal abuse for trying to help.
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Re: Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?

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Mike wrote:Yep, it cost him 8 1/2 pounds for the day!! He only weighed in 15 that day with a 1 1/2 pounder in his bag. That sucks :cry:
If he lost the fish how do you know it was 8 1/2 ??????
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Chaozu wrote: If he lost the fish how do you know it was 8 1/2 ??????
Actually, Dee stated it was a 10 pounder, Mike just indicated that it cost him about 8.5 pounds.
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Re: Lost 10 pounder in FLW Delta?

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So how did Dee get all those fish in the boat on the final day with no co-angler ???? Dee may be 71, the inventor of flippin but he must have forgot respect to other people. I don't think his age has anything to do with it, or at least it goes out the window when he starts cussing and publicly humiliating others. If his age is so important then maybe FLW should investigate whether or not he is mentally fit to fish in such a high stress enviroment. Oh, and what the hell does IKE have to do with a profanity rich senior citizen.
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