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FYI -

I had this buried deep in a post below

For those of you wishing to air your thoughts/concerns to public officials, I URGE YOU TO DO SO

Send emails to

Jerry Gillham - City Manager at jgillham@cityoflakeport.com

and

Anthony Farrington - County Supervisor at anthonyf@co.lake.ca.us

Got this out of the latest Western Outdoor News - thanks WonBass and WB Staff writer Robin Wade!

Regards,

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I emailed both these guys with a few questions like, where are all the inspection stations going to be, will they be 24/7, is there a grace period to get a sticker after the 8th (for those of us who will be there sooner and leave our boats in the water for a couple weeks) who makes the profit and a few other questions.
Anthony was kind enough to reply and all he could do is direct me to someone else......I really get the warm and fuzzy when he is one of the point men on this and can't answer some basic questions.
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I have yet to hear.

What are the hours of operation for the inspection and decontamination stations?
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This just come in from Melissa Fulton, CEO, Lakeport Regional Chamber of Commerce.

Pasted below

COUNTY OF LAKE
INVASIVE SPECIES INSPECTION PROGRAM
Frequently Asked Questions

Q: How serious is the threat of invasive mussels such as zebra or quagga mussels?
A: The zebra mussel and its close cousin, the quagga mussel, have become the most serious non-native biofouling pest to be introduced into North American fresh waters. An infestation causes mussel colonies to form on all surfaces including boats, engines, buoys, pipes, water intakes, ladders, beaches, native shellfish, adversely affecting anyone who uses the lakes.

The most serious economic impacts are suffered by water districts and other users of lake water who may have increased maintenance costs due to plugged water pipes, intake screens, and possible damage to pumps and other equipment. It even impacts citizens who don’t use the lakes through increased costs for drinking water and food prices passed along to consumers by the water and agriculture industries brought on by their increased costs in maintenance and equipment repair. It impacts the local fisheries, and in some lakes, has caused a collapse in the populations of sports fish.

These mussels have the ability to tolerate a wide range of conditions and are extremely adaptable. Once they have infected a water body, they cannot be eradicated. They have no native predators. They cannot be prevented from spreading into downstream waters.

Q: Why did the Board of Supervisors enact this inspection ordinance?
A: These invasive mussels were introduced into the United States in 1988 in Lake St. Clair near Detroit, Michigan. The zebra mussel was believed to be released into the Great Lakes Region from the emptying of ballast water from a Eurasian vessel. So although they have been in the United States for 20 years, the zebra and quagga mussels are new to California. These mussels were first discovered in Lake Mead in January 2007, and quickly spread downstream into Lake Havasu, Lake Mohave, and then into Southern California via the aqueduct system. Since so many boaters come to Lake County from that region, the Lake County Board of Supervisors approved an urgency ordinance on March 25, 2008, to protect the water bodies of Lake County from this significant and imminent threat posed by invasive quagga and zebra mussel infestation that can be spread inadvertently through recreational boating.


Q: Have any lakes in California been infected with these mussels?
A: Yes. Lakes throughout the state are constantly being monitored, but as of April 1, 2008, 18 California water bodies have been infected. Some of them have been closed to boating traffic.

Q: How do I know if my boat needs to be inspected?
A: All boats and equipment must undergo an inspection process prior to launching in Lake County waters.

Q: How do I get an inspection sticker if I am a local resident with local boats?
A: The ordinance has a program for local residents to help simplify the inspection process to qualify for a sticker. A call-in screening process – effective April 8 through June 30, 2008 – is offered to determine if a more rigorous physical inspection is required. This is applicable to Lake County residents who own or operate registered or unregistered vessels located in Lake County.

This special program will enable residents to obtain an inspection sticker at no cost beginning April 8 through June 30, 2008. The eligibility for an inspection sticker will be determined through a simple call-in process, designed to make it convenient for local residents to obtain a sticker. As part of this call-in process, every resident who owns a vessel will be asked a few simple questions and then will be asked to complete, sign, and return an affidavit agreeing to comply with the clean-vessel policy. Once the signed affidavit is received, the inspection sticker will be issued.

Beginning April 8 through June 30, local residents may participate in the call-in screening process by calling one of the following locations:
• Lake County Visitor Center, 274-5652; Monday–Saturday, 9 am to 5 pm; Sunday, noon to 4 pm.
• Clear Lake Chamber of Commerce, 994-3600; Tuesday–Friday, 10 am to 5 pm.
• Lakeport Regional Chamber of Commerce, 263-5092; Monday–Friday, 9 am to 5 pm.

Q: How do I get an inspection sticker if I am a bringing a boat in from outside of Lake County?
A. Owner/operators must have their vessels inspected in order to obtain a sticker. Contact staff at your lodging establishment to determine if they offer a courtesy boat inspection. If not, they can direct you to the nearest boat inspection location and the hours of operation. Additional locations are frequently updated on the Lake County Mussel hotline (707) 263-2556 and Lake County Mussel web site: www.co.lake.ca.us/mussels and.


Q. When does the inspection program begin?
A. The program for local residents and non-local boats begins April 8, 2008. To reduce waiting times, local residents are being encouraged to delay obtaining the stickers until they plan to launch their boats, but before June 30, 2008, when the free interim program ends.

Q: How much does it cost to get an inspection sticker?
A: During this interim phase, from April 8 through June 30, the inspections and inspection stickers are free.

Q. What types of water vessels require inspection?
A. All registered and unregistered vessels are required to have an inspection sticker. This includes motorized and non-motorized vessels, such as power boats, sailboats, kayaks, canoes, jet skis, inflatable rafts, float tubes, and other towables and water-related equipment.

Q: What is the penalty for launching a boat without a sticker?
A: Violations of this law may be treated as an infraction, misdemeanor, and even a pubic nuisance. This means a violator faces monetary penalties, the possible impoundment of his/her vessel, and in some cases, incarceration in County Jail.

Q: My patio boat has been in the waters of Clear Lake for years, do I need to pull it out and have it inspected?
A: Probably not. This will be determined through the call-in process.

Q. Where will the inspection stations be located?
A. Out-of-county boat owners that require inspection can contact staff at their place of lodging to request a courtesy boat inspection or for a current list of boat inspection locations. Call the Lake County Mussel Hotline at (707) 263-2556 or go online to: www.co.lake.ca.us/mussels. Local residents begin the phone-in process to determine if further inspection is required.

Q. Will the inspection stations be manned 24 hours per day?
A. No. However, staff at several local lodging establishments may be able to offer assistance to their guests.

Q. How long will the inspection take?
A. It varies depending on how the boat has been operated in the past 30 days, and how diligent the owner/operator was in cleaning, draining, and drying when exiting the previous water body. Owners/operators can streamline the process by saving receipts or certificates documenting recent cleanings/and or inspections.


Q. What parts of the boat and trailer will be inspected?
A. This depends on the risk factors, but all parts of the boat must be cleaned, drained, and dry. This includes live wells, bait wells, bilges, and areas likely to contain water. If the boat is determined to be a higher-risk vessel, a thorough boat and trailer inspection may be necessary.

Q. Will I be required to remove panels and floor boards from my boat
during the inspection?
A. The bilges, live wells, bait wells, and any other areas that collect water MUST be cleaned, drained, and dry. The inspector must be able to ensure this.

Q. What is the cost of the inspection?
A. During the interim phase of the program, there is no cost.

Q. Where will the sticker be attached?
A. For registered vessels, the sticker should be affixed on the port (or left) side of the boat, 6 inches in front of the registration number. For unregistered vessels such as kayaks or canoes, the sticker should be affixed in a prominent location toward the front of the boat. Vessels with special requirements will be instructed as to acceptable alternate display locations.

Q. How long is the sticker valid?
A. Inspection stickers are valid through December 31, 2008.

Q. Must a boat be re-inspected every time it enters Lake County?
A. Yes.

Q. What are the fines if I am cited for not having a valid sticker?
A. Penalties are administered in relation to the offense. Fines begin at $100 although administrative penalties plus a misdemeanor can be charged on the first offense.

Q. If it is determined that my boat must be decontaminated, where do I
go?
A. Currently, there are no decontamination facilities in Lake County. Local decontamination stations will be available in early July. The inspector will make a determination on the extent of decontamination needed for the boat to pass inspection. If the level of decontamination needed exceeds what can be done through recommended procedures, the boat may not be launched in Lake County.


Q. What does decontamination of my boat consist of and what is the
cost?
A. The decontamination process includes power washing with very hot water, flushing of the motor cooling system, draining, and drying of any standing water including bilges, ballasts, and bait wells, etc. Further details may be accessed online at www.co.lake.ca.us/mussels.

Q. Are Lake County boat owners required to have an inspection sticker?
A. Yes.

Q. If my boat has never left Lake County, will it have to be inspected?
A. An inspection sticker is required and can be obtained through the call-in process.


Q. If I am a Lake County resident and I take my boat out of the county
must it be inspected upon my return?
A. Yes.

Q. Will I be allowed to release live minnows and other live bait in
the water when I am done fishing?
A. No. Disposal of live bait and bait water is strictly prohibited.

Q: What do I do if I see someone ready to launch without a sticker?
A: Call the Lake County Mussel Hotline at (707) 263-2556. If possible, please note the boat CF# and/or vessel description.

Q: Where can I obtain more information about the inspection program?
A: Call the Lake County Mussel Hotline at (707) 263-2556 or go online to: www.co.lake.ca.us/mussels.
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Bill kizer wrote:I have yet to hear.

What are the hours of operation for the inspection and decontamination stations?
No decontamination stations! This process needs to be postponed. Anthony sounds fed up with his job. Anybody try the City Manager?
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I sent an e-mail to both. I guess tournaments will need to launch at, lets say 10:00.
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Q. Will the inspection stations be manned 24 hours per day?
A. No. However, staff at several local lodging establishments may be able to offer assistance to their guests.

........raise RED FLAG here........
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I guess I will need to call the hotline tomorrow as I will be at Clear Lake Saturday Morning and the website is very ambigous in terms of where I can obtain a sticker.

On Tuesday, March 25, 2008, the Lake County Board of Supervisors enacted an urgency ordinance to protect the water bodies of Lake County from quagga and zebra mussel infestation.

Effective immediately, this ordinance:
Requires a mandatory inspection for any water vessel prior to launching in a Lake County water body, beginning April 8, 2008. This applies to all motorized and non-motorized vessels including boats, trailers, kayaks, canoes, jet skis, inflatable rafts, etc. All vessels will be required to obtain an Inspection Sticker prior to launching.

Establishes the first phase of an inspection program, which includes a special interim program for local vessels to obtain inspection stickers at no cost beginning April 8, 2008, through June 30, 2008.

Bans the disposal of live bait and any liquid that contains or has contained live bait into Lake County water bodies.
Your cooperation and assistance in educating others about this threat is critical to the protection of Lake County lakes and fisheries.

Detailed information about the inspection program will be posted in the coming days as it becomes available, so please check back often.

For more information about this program, please call the Lake County Mussel Hotline at (707) 263-2556.

I will also bring a copy of my utlilitiy bills as my DL still is listed SoCal. Man I hope I can get on the water before noon!
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GW wrote:Q. Will the inspection stations be manned 24 hours per day?
A. No. However, staff at several local lodging establishments may be able to offer assistance to their guests.

........raise RED FLAG here........
HAHAHAHA this is great!So this is geared for a wake boarder that gets up at noon?
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Ambiguous? Nah............

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............Inspections stations manned sometime, that will be somewhere..... call the hotline to find out (this is 8 days away and the FAQ doesn't list them?) That's okay - your friendly neighborhood hotel proprieter can do a 'courtesy inspection.' - WHAT? they can't make the gas pumps work at Konocti Vista - I'm sure though inspecting a Bass Boat for mussel infestation falls into their skill set however....

Oh and if you don't pass? No decontamentation stations will be in place until July.....

It's sad really the way things are falling into place, or don't. A hard date has been thrown out there, a line in the sand, before the infrastructure and staff to implement the program they created.

April 8th is setting up to be a long day with the boat on the trailer looking for an inspector... quite possibly in the rain.... DID THEY THINK Of THAT?

And here's a question:

Do you think these 'stickers' are even designed? printed up? and distributed?

what a mess
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e-mail I just sent to the above officials...

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I will post the response when I recieve it.


I will be entering LC this Sunday the 6th. How will I get a sticker for my boat? Also, it is very impractical to inspect a bilge pump or live well pumps on many/most newer model bass boats. There is quite a bit of disassembly and reassembly to get to the areas of the boat where the pumps are mounted. It would be more practical to make sure live wells are empty and drain plugs are removed and dry. Also I understand that there will be no decontamination stations until late June? How can this be? There must be a station capable of handling upwards of 200 boats with all of the Major Bass Tournaments in the next 3 weeks, not to mention normal boat traffic. Also not having the checkpoint stations open 24-7 creates several problems. It will be an inconvience to anglers entering prior to sunrise (which will probably account for 90+ percent of us). This will also create another problem, how do I get my sticker in order to get on the water? If the answer is to drive back to an inspection station during business hours and wait in a line of 50- 100 boats to be checked prior to my own inspection; I may not even get on the water, and at that point their will be no reason for even coming at all!

I’m all for Clean and Dry, and I also believe in what you are trying to do. It’s in all of our best interest to put these safeguards in place to protect our most valuable resources. Having said that please consider my suggestions.

1. 24/7 vessel inspection stations….This will ensure all vessels will be inspected prior to entering the county. If they remain an 8-5 operation you will only be inspecting a portion of the vessels entering the county. What is stopping someone from coming in after work at say 8:00 p.m. to do some all night fishing? Or in the fall the early morning waterfowl hunters? The concern here is the honest and less problematic vessel owners/vessels will comply with whatever standards you set, but the older and less cared for boats that often stay in the water for long durations stand a higher chance of non compliance due to the inspection stations not being operated 24 hours a day. The purpose of the inspections is to prevent the spread of Zebra mussels by ensuring NO VESSEL ENTERS THE COUNTY PRIOR TO INSPECTION. If the stations are not operated at all times you are defeating the whole purpose; and that would be a waste of time, money and energy. I and scores of other tourists/patrons of your county would be very disappointed in our elected officials to put in place a system that is set up to fail with our tax dollars!

2. Cleaning stations need to be operational at the same time the inspections begin…. Self explanatory, once you implement the inspections, we need to have a place to go to get compliant with your standards. If not what are we to do? Turn around an drive 2-8 hours back home?

3. a clean inspection sticker should only last for each visit. In fact a sticker program may not be the answer to our problems. A dated receipt good for the length of expected visit to be in possession at all times, much like a short term fishing license. For instance I get inspected on Sunday the 6th and I estimate I will be staying through the 18th. I will be issued a clean pass/license good through the 18th. Should I decide to stay longer I would need to get a new inspection or call in for an extension, and be given an confirmation #. As for Lake county Residents a sticker program could work but require a re-inspection upon every re entry into the county and a dated receipt/pass for each occurrence.


Very concerned,

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How about an actual list of standards? Will it be possible to just go to another station and get a favorable determination of compliance or will they quarantine the vessel. Can you see float tubers waiting in line with all the wakeboarders or a large tournament?
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scottkh wrote:
Q. How long is the sticker valid?
A. Inspection stickers are valid through December 31, 2008.

Q. Must a boat be re-inspected every time it enters Lake County?
A. Yes.
Mr. Tuck,
it was my understanding at first that the sticker lasted for the year requiring only one inspection. but the second answer above says thay the boat has to be reinspected.
so your third might not be a problem.
I dont know. im confused
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HOLY CRAP BATMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!1 SO WILL I HAVE TO SHOW UP ON TUESDAY THE 8TH OF APRIL JUST TO FIND A BOAT INSPECTION STATION FOR THE WONBASS PRO AM OR AM I GONNA HAVE TO BLOW HALF A DAY OF PRE FISHING ON THURSDAY JUST TO FIND A INSPECTION STATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ARRRGGGGHHHHHH

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How are they planning to verify if a boat has left and re-entered Lake County? Checkpoints on every road in or out?

My old boat will probably never see CL again :x

Better move to CL and open a boat rental business!!!
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Here is all I got back from Anthony Farrington, an elected offical (take note LC fishermen and voters)

Mr. Watts,

Please direct all your questions to staff member Pam Francis at
707.263.2341. She will be happy to assist you.

Sincerely,
Anthony W. Farrington
Lake County Board of Supervisors -- District 4

I am sure Pam wil be thrilled that he passes the buck to her......
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Thank You for expressing the concerns many of us share is such a professional manner.
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Parker,

I see your confusion, as I myself share in that feeling. The problem is that they say one thing...(sticker good for one year), then they contradict themselves by saying you will have to get reinspected upon re-entry. If the stations will not be open 24/7 and I have a sticker good for a year, how will they know if i've ever left since I will normally be leaving and entering the county after normal hours of operation.

I feel as if they should set up stations around the county just like the inspection stations we go through upon crossing state lines, and man them 24/7. In a perfect world the decontamination station would be on-site.

Just so we're all on the same page, I'm on board 100% with the idea of what they are trying to do in lake county. Other jurisdictions should really look at following their lead. However I feel VERY STRONGLY that it must be done right! If it's not then a terrible precident will be set. (Elected officials creating a system that looks great on paper come election time, but ultimatley is a burden to all who must comply, and the system would solve and protect absolutely nothing)

If they listen to all of those involved and consider all ideas, they have the ability to create a program that can work and make total sense. What I saw at Havasu this spring was VERY Disturbing. Every stick I pulled up off the bottom when snagged, was covered with hundreds of quaggas! The year before I had barley even heard of them let alone seen one outside of a test tube. So the program is very much in need, they just have to do it right.

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Mr. Tuck great memo please keep us posted as it seems you've expressed the opinion of a lot of out of towners.
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While I've heard stories of inconveniences and scenarios of politicians setting guidelines and precedents being set. I haven't heard much in the way of suggestions. This isn't a blast at anyone with stories or scenarios, just my observation.

It suddenly occurred to me.. can we make some suggestions? As fisherman, what would we like to see happen to make our workflow transition smoothly into the lake. What would we like to see happen from the moment we hit the border of Lake County until we put our boat in the water? Keep in mind that the inspections will happen.

I think the initial free inspection is being used to determine what these inspections are going to cost so they can charge appropriately. I think thats the correct way to go.

Will some official down the road see this as a revenue maker? Probably! But that's another bridge to cross. Will there be inconveniences in the beginning and tempers flaring? You bet!

So what do you out of towners want to see happen when you get here, fully knowing that these inspections will happen. Us locals would love some creative suggestions.
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As an out of towner, if I have to come up the day before I plan to fish for an inspection, I probably will consider going elsewhere.
Part of the allure of Clear Lake is being able to come up at anytime and launch from one of the numerous free ramps.
I understand that Lake County depends on fisherman and wants to protect the lake for that reason. They just need to be accomodating to keep the hassles to a managable level.

If they have something as simple as weekend hours where they could be open two or three hours before sunrise, I thnik a lot of the hassle would be gone.
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There has several ideas put fort, here is one I did.

The clear Lake inspections seem to be targeting visitors to the county unfairly. They seem to have the locals taken care of. But lets take me for example; I'm in Sutter County and the only lake I was planning on fishing this year is Clear Lake. Do I have to make a one day trip a two day trip so I can get inspected?

If so Myself and many like me will fish elsewhere. Granted, I only buy donuts and a tank of gas for my boat when I get there and a burger and coke when I leave.

But that is still tax revenue for the county.


How many lakes are infested with the quagga and zebra mussels?

If the number is low why not require inspections on all boats leaving an infected area. To get on the infected waters you get a permit. To leave the area you get your permit validated by an inspector. No validation, a $100.00 fine for the first infraction then fines go up from there.

There would also now be a list of boats entering the waters and where they came from.

There are also ag stations in place now which could inspect boats entering from other states.

With the shear number of waters that can be potentially infected wouldn’t this be a more economical way to control the system
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1. If the number is low why not require inspections on all boats leaving an infected area. To get on the infected waters you get a permit. To leave the area you get your permit validated by an inspector. No validation, a $100.00 fine for the first infraction then fines go up from there.

2. There would also now be a list of boats entering the waters and where they came from.

3. There are also ag stations in place now which could inspect boats entering from other states.
1. This sounded good to me at first glance, however - If you are leaving an infected area, you won't be "clean and dry" and there's nothing preventing you from hopping into another lake before you are clean and dry. You'd need to hang around 30 hours to get an valid inspection. Would you rather wait a couple hours at Clear Lake or 30 hours elsewhere? This also has little to do with solving the problem of the proposed inspection hang-ups at Clear Lake which start on the 8th of April.
2. It would be a good idea for the county to require the private launches to log the CF numbers of people trying to sneak in the back way, unless the private launches will be required to only allow stickered boats to use their facilities.
3. Great idea.
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Greg_Cornish wrote:[.
1. This sounded good to me at first glance, however - If you are leaving an infected area, you won't be "clean and dry" and there's nothing preventing you from hopping into another lake before you are clean and dry. You'd need to hang around 30 hours to get an valid inspection. Would you rather wait a couple hours at Clear Lake or 30 hours elsewhere? This also has little to do with solving the problem of the proposed inspection hang-ups at Clear Lake which start on the 8th of April.
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If they have a two hour wait or even a 30 minute wait I will go elsewhere.

You can also get from an infected to a non infected lake in less than thirty hours already. I'm sure guys are doing that already.

I wouldn't fish an infected water, if I did, I guess I'd have to wait the extra day.
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Did they ask for input? before throwing the date out there?

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Hey Greg,

While most of my posts on this topic have been laced with Sarcasm - admittantly so - I have made only 1 (one) question to the public officials at Lake County.

What am I supposed to do at 5AM April 8th?

The only answer I have received is "Call the hotline."

Coming up with suggestions, recommendations, etc... nice intellectual exercise maybe.... and I'm sure it makes some of you feel good (understandably so and not a slam - being proactive is a great thing).....

Tuck's pt about the inspection stations though was quite succinct, and the only recommendation I'd echo:

To summarize:

1. Figure out EXACTLY what it is you're going to do - what the policy is.
2. Develop a implementation plan to place required infrastructure and resources.
3. Execute the plan.
4. Implement-Enforce the Policy.

Since THAT was not done AND we've got a Sh_t load of boats showing up next week AND rain in the forcast....

I just want clear instructions as to what I'm supposed to do and where I'm supposed to do it at, from the Lake County officials who through the date out there in the first place.

<OR>

an "ooooops comminication going out saying once the full plan is executed and signed off, the policy will go into force."
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The recommendation is 5 days drying time from what I have seen.

Depending on the screening questions they ask, they should be able to accomplish a boat inspection fairly quickly. It sounds like they are training the motel operators which would be a good deal if you get there the night before you fish. If it rains though and you have not been through an inspection for that trip I can see trouble.

I look at it this way. This is a big potential problem and there are simple ways I can help prevent the spread whether I am fishing Clear Lake, Shasta, or the Delta.

I now remove the screens that cover the live well intakes after pulling out, I make sure I always pull the plug, I wipe down the boat and remove any sticks or vegitation that are on the boat and trailer, and I store the boat with the motor down so it drains and the bow lifted high with the jack. I also will no longer fill the boats cooler with ice before leaving from home.

Maybe I am an optomist, but there are not that tough to do and hopefully will aid me in speeding through the boat checks. If it rains.....???
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Greg,

I actually had several suggestions in the letter I sent to Anthony Farrington. Did you have any ideas relating to those. The best way to push these through or to help with the ideas is to shoot holes in them first. I'd like to hear some suggestions from not only yourself, but others as well. I'm not even close to the know all aficionado on preventing the spread of mussels, but collectively we should be able to come up with some sure fire suggestions to make the process complete and most importantly effective.

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Re: Did they ask for input? before throwing the date out the

Post by Greg_Cornish »

Bob, bass fishermen don't use words like "succinct" meaning concise. You sent me to Funk and Wagnalls again. ;-)

I anticipate April 8th being a cluster f***. How could something instituted so quickly, not be?

Also, I bet fisherman will have some good ideas how to help the process. As you're going through the inspections, keep an eye out for ways to improve it.
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Re: Did they ask for input? before throwing the date out the

Post by Vince E »

Currently the only way to get a failed boat on the water is the hot water power wash. At least it will be when the infrastructure catches up with the plan.

Why not use Bill's idea but require the decontamination to get your ticket punched on the way out of an infected lake? That shouldn't take too long to get you on your way. It should help with the rain problem too.

That would at least "punish" only those who go to contaminated lakes and not those of us who don't.

On another note it seems other means of decontamination should be explored. It could become a big market in the near future.
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Re: Vince

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Some of the lakes had been infested for a year or two before the mussles were discovered. I also have to say that high temp pressure washing may be a way of reducing the threat, but it is not a fool proof method for decontaminating a boat. You will not be able to hit every spot on the boat, behind the prop, or under the trailer fenders, and the bilge. All it might do is create a false impression that other steps do not need to be taken.

There may be no fool-proof way of preventing the spread, but there are a number of steps we can take and the lakes can take to significantly reduce the threat. It seems that is what Clear Lake is attempting. I am glad they have the possibility for a boat decontamination rather than the 28 day ban that other lakes have imposed if you fail an inspection.

Even our tournament organization need to play a part with their scheduling. FLW has a very irresponsible set of events scheduled in May. They have a National Guard Tournament on Lake Mead (Which is infested) that ends May 9th/10th. Many boats will leave Mead at the end of their last tournament day and launch the next morning in the Delta to start pre-fishing for a Stren that starts 3-4 days later. These boats will not have time to properly dry. FLW and DFG have been notified and they say they have a plan to deal with this and protect the Delta. I have not heard the plan since I am not fishing Mead. In the Future the tournament organizations need to pay attention to these quick turn arounds and as anglers we need to make sure we act responsibly and do not run from an infested lake to other lakes without a few days for the boat to dry.
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Re: Vince

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Dewayne wrote:FLW and DFG have been notified and they say they have a plan to deal with this and protect the Delta.
I believe Callville Bay has set up a Certified Decom Station for boats leaving the lake and that hey will give you a certificate that states that they have decomtaminated your boat before you leave. I also believe there will a fee associated with it.

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Re: Vince

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This probably isnt going to be a popular suggestion, but why not just stop having tournament on the fisheries that are infected. There's too much of a chance of the decon stations not catching everything and then the Delta and our other waterways will be infested as well. If we get infested, theres a good chance it will be from a bass boat. There aren't too many pleasure boaters who leave Lake Mead and then drive to the Delta or Clear Lake the next day and launch there. Another suggestion would be to require any boats that launch on an infected lake to get a sticker put on the boat that states the date of the launch. THe sticker could only be removed by a certified inspector 5 or more days after the date of the launch. Or put the CF #'s into a statewide database that shows when they last launched on an infected area. Require that boat launches verify against this database before allowing boats to launch into non-infected places.
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