RATTLESNAKES

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:00 am

PLEASE BE CAREFUL AT DON PEDRO, THE RATTLERS ARE OUT !!

PLEASE LEAVE THE KING SNAKES & GARDER SNAKES ALONE

JIGS

jhorn · Post by **jhorn** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:51 pm

Funny you say that. I just had to go and pick up a babyy rattler from mercy the other night. The guy she bit brought her to the hospital for a proper ID.

basshunter4u · Post by **basshunter4u** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:27 pm

Leave the rattlers alone also. They are good to keep down the mice and rats. They dont harm people people harm them. They will leave you alone if you leave them alone.

Don O

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:51 am

DON'T TELL ME RATTLESNAKES DON'T HURT OR DO HARM......
DON'T PLANT A GARDEN AND EXPECT TO HARVEST IT BY HAND THEN, YOU WILL GET BIT. I HAVE LOST TWO GOATS, ONE DOG, ONE CAT, AND ALMOST MYSELF TO RATTLESNAKE BITES THAT WE DID NOT GO LOOKING FOR AND DID NOT SEEK THE RATTLERS OUT, THE SNAKE IS MEAN, IT WILL COME AFTER YOU, I HAVE SEEN IT. GET RID OF THEM ALL. THE KING SNAKES AND GOFFER, AND GARDER SNAKES EAT ENOUGH RODENTS TO DO THE JOB !!

JIGS

sTony · Post by **sTony** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:02 am

Are we ever gonna get you to turn the caps off on your posts Jigs? With each and every post you make in this fashion it looks as if you're literally screaming at us all.

This is simple to do. You have a CAPS LOCK key on your keyboard. Many of them actually have a light on the key to let you know that it's on and when it is on everything you type LOOKS LIKE THIS.

Thanks for your understanding,

sTony

FATGUY · Post by **FATGUY** » Sat May 10, 2008 8:30 am

after readings jigs post i think he was screaming .. if i lost all those animals and got bit myself I'D SCREAM TOO !!!

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Sat May 10, 2008 5:58 pm

sTony wrote:Are we ever gonna get you to turn the caps off on your posts Jigs? With each and every post you make in this fashion it looks as if you're literally screaming at us all.

This is simple to do. You have a CAPS LOCK key on your keyboard. Many of them actually have a light on the key to let you know that it's on and when it is on everything you type LOOKS LIKE THIS.

Thanks for your understanding,

sTony

tell you all what i will stop then you all will give me crap because i dont capatilize something that needs to be, plus its harder for me to see small letters. i also sell alot of equipment parts all day and it always in caps like caterpillar for instance 1a2299 etc etc...so its hard to change back and forth then order something and it not go thru the vendors and customer does not get his parts the next day because i made a mistake and used small letters. i hope you all understand why i do it...............thank you for your understanding. i am really getting tired of being assused of yelling who ever in the world started this internet fantisy is a nut for sure ?

basshunter4u · Post by **basshunter4u** » Sat May 10, 2008 7:58 pm

I dont know why I even post on these websites. Always some one gets their panties in a ruffle. I have had many experiences with rattlers more than you would know. Go to texas for a rattle snake round up and you will find they are just like any other snake. Dosile in the morning and just another snake in the afternoon. with the exception they are poisoness. If the general public was educated about them there wouldnt be as many accidents. That was all I was saying. SO I will say again If you see one leave it alone. If you are around where they are be aware and carefull how you go about your gardening

Taint · Post by **Taint** » Sat May 10, 2008 9:12 pm

basshunter4u wrote:I dont know why I even post on these websites. Always some one gets their panties in a ruffle. I have had many experiences with rattlers more than you would know. Go to texas for a rattle snake round up and you will find they are just like any other snake. Dosile in the morning and just another snake in the afternoon. with the exception they are poisoness. If the general public was educated about them there wouldnt be as many accidents. That was all I was saying. SO I will say again If you see one leave it alone. If you are around where they are be aware and carefull how you go about your gardening

Oh, I thought the ruffle in the panties was with the caps lock issue.

DeltaDan · Post by **DeltaDan** » Sat May 10, 2008 9:22 pm

Wife took this Pic late last month with the boys at Loma. I zoomed in as much at I could on the PC and it looks like it mostly was a Gopher -- But you never know for sure and the last thing I want is another vet bill for Cobalt

(boys are covered under Kaiser.

)

Also a pic of how low Loma has been -

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Sun May 11, 2008 6:54 am

I started the thread, why they call it a thread is beyond me, I started the topic only to warn you all of the Rattlesnakes are out at Don Pedro. Thats it.

Take care

Jigs

(another question, what the heck is bump, (meaning)??? huh

mark poulson · Post by **mark poulson** » Sun May 11, 2008 7:16 am

Jigs,
Funny (not) coincidence. Last week, I found and killed a juvenile Pacific rattler on my front porch. My 13 year old daughter was just about to walk her dog, and I came out to tell her something, and saw it next to a screened foundation vent near the front door.
Now I live in Los Angeles, near LAX, in a part of town that's miles from any wetlands, open fields, or other suitable habitat for rattlers.
I called animal control, and they came out in 30 minutes. The officer said she'd never seen a rattler in our neighborhood in all her years, and couldn't find a record of one on her computer.
I guess it was someones pet that escaped and wound up on my door. When I went door to door to warn my neighbors, who have small kids and pets, too, no one 'fessed up to having lost it.
Weird. And worrisome. After all, either it was a "pet" that got lose, or there is a female in the neighborhood that bred. They bear live young, so a pregnant female that escaped could have dropped this one, although it was 18" long.
It was right under my mail box. Flashbacks to Synanon, and they idiots who planted rattlers with the rattles removed in people's mail boxes.
My mind started searching my memory for who I could have pissed off enough to do something like that. Not likely, but it was such a surprise I didn't know what to think.
And both my daughter and I had dreams about snakes for the next few nights.
Anyway, baby rattlers are the most dangerous, since they haven't learned how to control their venom, and let go with a full load every time the strike.
So be careful.

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sun May 11, 2008 7:33 am

My buddy got a snake bite right in his privates. I got on the cell and called the doctor.

The doctor. said, "Make a small x shaped incision then suck the poison out."

My buddy said, "What'd he say?"

I said, "He said, 'You're going to die!"

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:05 am

Born and Raised in Texas and I dont know where in Texas you come from but Rattlers are just that mean. They are a cold blooded creature so in the Texas winter you dont see many but as soon as the weather warms they come out in full force.

My friends and I would always run across em when huntin with our pellet guns or fishing Kelly's pond. They will warn with a rattle but by that time most people are right on top of em

We shot everyone we could find. They are not endangered and they cant read so when they wounder into populated areas they are eratticated. Now dont get me wrong I have personally witnessed the rattlesnake round up and the DEEP SOUTHERN BAPTIST There thinking was is the snake bit you it clensed your sins

Yea Them there are some crazy rednecks.

Now Water Moccassin's and Cotton Mouths are another story a water moccassin will strike under water and kill you it will drown in doin so but it will still strike.

Tight Lines Dom

Iafrate94505 · Post by **Iafrate94505** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:23 am

JIGSRETIRED wrote:
sTony wrote:Are we ever gonna get you to turn the caps off on your posts Jigs? With each and every post you make in this fashion it looks as if you're literally screaming at us all.

This is simple to do. You have a CAPS LOCK key on your keyboard. Many of them actually have a light on the key to let you know that it's on and when it is on everything you type LOOKS LIKE THIS.

Thanks for your understanding,

sTony
tell you all what i will stop then you all will give me crap because i dont capatilize something that needs to be, plus its harder for me to see small letters. i also sell alot of equipment parts all day and it always in caps like caterpillar for instance 1a2299 etc etc...so its hard to change back and forth then order something and it not go thru the vendors and customer does not get his parts the next day because i made a mistake and used small letters. i hope you all understand why i do it...............thank you for your understanding. i am really getting tired of being assused of yelling who ever in the world started this internet fantisy is a nut for sure ?

I AGREE JIGS....WGAF IF YA CAP IT ALL. EVERYONE KNOWS WHO YA ARE. I THINK THIS IS MORE OF A CHAT ROOM ISSUE WHEN YOUR GETTING CLOSE TO THE FINNISH LINE.

leachman90 · Post by **leachman90** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:26 am

Rattlers are already up here in Tri-Cities area as well.Be careful around Dalton Lake and Patterson.Alot of people let their kids run all over the place at Dalton(Big Flat),just have to watch out.GB...Jim

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Sun May 11, 2008 8:31 am

JIGSRETIRED wrote:plus its harder for me to see small letters.

I had that problem too. I went to Kmart and got 3X glasses. They work alright and I can see now. Walmart has them too.

JIGSRETIRED wrote:so its hard to change back and forth

Really? You just need to push the caps lock key down once when you post then push it back down after you're done.

SHAFT · Post by **SHAFT** » Sun May 11, 2008 9:30 am

HOLD THE CONTROL BUTTON DOWN AND ZOOM IN OR OUT WITH THE WHEEL ON THE TOP OF YOUR MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil · Post by **Phil** » Sun May 11, 2008 2:47 pm

Greg_Cornish wrote:
JIGSRETIRED wrote:plus its harder for me to see small letters.
I had that problem too. I went to Kmart and got 3X glasses. They work alright and I can see now. Walmart has them too.

JIGSRETIRED wrote:so its hard to change back and forth
Really? You just need to push the caps lock key down once when you post then push it back down after you're done.

I meant because of age !!!! to remember !!

CN · Post by CN » Mon May 12, 2008 11:32 am

That was funny Tony.....I needed a laugh this morning.

My dad live's down around Bradley real close to San Antonio lake.I will tell you we kill every one we see around the house or yard.

We may kill three or four a year but when you step off the deck or go around back to throw some steak's on the Que and see one it make's you a little nervous.Espacially when there are kid's playing.

I agree when you see them out away from people leave them alone.

L Dub · Post by **L Dub** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:52 am

[quote]SHAFT

HOLD THE CONTROL BUTTON DOWN AND ZOOM IN OR OUT WITH THE WHEEL ON THE TOP OF YOUR MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]

Holy Toledo! I learned something new!

g-man · Post by **g-man** » Mon May 12, 2008 12:53 pm

I got rattles hanging in my office from ones that I have killed over the years, even found one in our warehouse a couple of years ago sitting on a shelf! Hes dead too..

If you get bit don't panic it raises your heart rate, and will cause the venom to go through your body faster. Never cut around the wound, or try to suck out the poison. go to an emergency room asap! Stay as calm as you can.

If you kill a rattler get rid of the head, even when dead there is still venom in the sacs behind the fangs, and if played with by someone else and poked its just like getting bit!

Rattle snakes are not typically aggressive, most bites come from someone either startling them, or stepping on them on accident.

bpm2000 · Post by **bpm2000** » Mon May 12, 2008 1:54 pm

JIGSRETIRED wrote:DON'T TELL ME RATTLESNAKES DON'T HURT OR DO HARM......
DON'T PLANT A GARDEN AND EXPECT TO HARVEST IT BY HAND THEN, YOU WILL GET BIT. I HAVE LOST TWO GOATS, ONE DOG, ONE CAT, AND ALMOST MYSELF TO RATTLESNAKE BITES THAT WE DID NOT GO LOOKING FOR AND DID NOT SEEK THE RATTLERS OUT, THE SNAKE IS MEAN, IT WILL COME AFTER YOU, I HAVE SEEN IT. GET RID OF THEM ALL. THE KING SNAKES AND GOFFER, AND GARDER SNAKES EAT ENOUGH RODENTS TO DO THE JOB !!

JIGS

Wow.

Ron C · Post by **Ron C** » Mon May 12, 2008 2:22 pm

Thanks Jigs! I cannot even begin to tell you how many of your posts I wanted to read but did not simply because they were in caps. As sTony noted, all caps is actually harder to read than lower case. And you ain't gonna get any sympathy from me on that old age crap, either! Hahaha!

Thanks for the heads-up on the rattlers. I ain't out to kill them (although I have killed a few), but I would just as soon avoid them, if at all possible.

Rattlesnakes: http://www.desertusa.com/may96/du_rattle.html

Ron C

PS: This has been quite a thread - from rattlers, to caps, to panties, to gardening, to bumps, to control keys, to mouse wheels, to privates (a VERY old joke BTW), to K-Mart. to Wal-Mart. Phew! I think we're about done with it (although it was a fun thread). That is unless somebody "bumps" it.

PPS: Hey Jigs - a bump is a one-word reply (usually the word "bump") to bring (or bump) the thread back to the top of the page.

PPPS: That's a gopher snake Dan. It looks to be a pretty good sized one, too. I use to raise them when I was a kid. I grew one to about six feet, which is pretty big for a gopher snake: http://www.desertusa.com/mag99/july/pap ... snake.html

FIVEtenthz · Post by **FIVEtenthz** » Mon May 12, 2008 2:45 pm

I know there's alot of Rattlers at Eastman lake in Central Cal but there is also alot of Kingsnakes who eat the Rattlers, my uncle actually saw one chasing a rattler across the road. Most of my 12 years of bassin have been walkin around the bank. Watch your step!

Greg_Cornish · Post by **Greg_Cornish** » Mon May 12, 2008 3:16 pm

Ron C wrote:
PS: .... to privates (a VERY old joke BTW)

Ya I thought I could get by with recycling it, but you bass fisherman probably heard em all 30 times. Before Lynette was a game warden in Lake County, see owned a pet shop in Sonoma. I wheeled in there one day and felt a bump. Then I heard a loud hiss. I looked down to see a 6 ft long gopher snake coiled around my front tire. I was unable to move a muscle. A guy looked down from the balconey and said, "Wow, he got loose 6 months ago, Don't move."

I couldn't LOL

He came down and picked him up. It was pretty docile.

duckhuntr07 · Post by **duckhuntr07** » Mon May 12, 2008 3:29 pm

They really do taste like CHICKEN!!!!

mac (Doyle McEwen) · Post by **mac (Doyle McEwen)** » Mon May 12, 2008 4:10 pm

The last time I had any, it tasted just like rattlesnake, of course there isn't much difference in taste between the various types of snakes..

mac

stickbait · Post by **stickbait** » Mon May 12, 2008 4:51 pm

I understand Jigs.. I have the same problem on my work computer.. It is programed to caps .. I am always forgetting to switch

JIGSRETIRED wrote:
sTony wrote:Are we ever gonna get you to turn the caps off on your posts Jigs? With each and every post you make in this fashion it looks as if you're literally screaming at us all.

This is simple to do. You have a CAPS LOCK key on your keyboard. Many of them actually have a light on the key to let you know that it's on and when it is on everything you type LOOKS LIKE THIS.

Thanks for your understanding,

sTony
tell you all what i will stop then you all will give me crap because i dont capatilize something that needs to be, plus its harder for me to see small letters. i also sell alot of equipment parts all day and it always in caps like caterpillar for instance 1a2299 etc etc...so its hard to change back and forth then order something and it not go thru the vendors and customer does not get his parts the next day because i made a mistake and used small letters. i hope you all understand why i do it...............thank you for your understanding. i am really getting tired of being assused of yelling who ever in the world started this internet fantisy is a nut for sure ?

Fred Fullerton · Post by **Fred Fullerton** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:23 pm

The only good snake is a dead one ever watched your best friend die from one or had one crawl up your horses leg while in the hills gathering cattel you would not be a friend of ratters kill them all

Riverdawg · Post by **Riverdawg** » Mon May 12, 2008 7:05 pm

INMHO,..

ALL RATTLE SNAKES SHOULD BE DISPACHED ON SIGHT!!!

~Riverdawg

Caudawg · Post by **Caudawg** » Tue May 13, 2008 5:32 am

Jigs... are you auditioning for Andy Rooney's job?

Buzzbait · Post by **Buzzbait** » Tue May 13, 2008 12:01 pm

Greg_Cornish wrote:
JIGSRETIRED wrote:plus its harder for me to see small letters.
I had that problem too. I went to Kmart and got 3X glasses. They work alright and I can see now. Walmart has them too.

JIGSRETIRED wrote:so its hard to change back and forth
Really? You just need to push the caps lock key down once when you post then push it back down after you're done.

You're funny as hell GC!! I like you man.

Far as rattlers, I come from way up North in Mendocino County where there are plenty so we kill the ones we find on our property knowing there will be another to take it's place shortly. We crazy rednecks don't eat 'em though!!! Maybe some Rocky Mountain Oysters, but never a damn rattler!!!

Pearl Swimbaits · Post by **Pearl Swimbaits** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:37 pm

I gOT tHe CAps lOCk dOWn! What abOUT The CUp hoLDEr on tHE
bIG BOX, CAn yoU MAke it BIGger?

RyanThoni · Post by **RyanThoni** » Tue May 13, 2008 4:44 pm

I got the pleasure of living with a herpetologists (that means he studies reptiles) for a year. He milked rattlesnakes for the venom to be made into anti-venom. It was truly an awesome experience. You learn to respect the creatures and learn that they, much like bass, and cats and dogs, have their own personalities and quirks. At the peak we had 16 adult rattlers living in our house, 6 of which were less than 20ft from my bed. I wasn't scared at all. Under no circumstance would they just come to attack me. I thought that kind of thinking was a thing of the past, but apparently not. A rattlesnake has too much at stake to start a fight with something bigger than it. The main use of their venom is to immobilize their prey.

As a kid I used to kill rattlesnakes thinking I was doing a service to society. Now I wish I hadn't. I now realize that they have much more to offer us. They are diverse, spectacular creatures that offer a lot to us in terms of pest control and wildlife populations. They kill problematic rodents that dig ankle breaking holes in horse and cattle pastures. They are food for king snakes, hawks, and eagles which most outdoorsmen would admire.

Don't be fooled by ignorant tall tales of vicious rattlesnakes on the prowl for victims. They have a finite supply of venom. Why would they waste it on something they cant eat. Respect their beauty and presence from a distance and it will give you space as well.

If you have problems with snakes anywhere in norcal, pay me gas money and I'll come move it somewhere far far away from anyones house.

Ryan Thoni

rjthoni@ucdavis.edu

CN · Post by CN » Tue May 13, 2008 6:08 pm

With all due repect Ryan when you see as much as we do you want to protect your family so we will dispose of them.

I grew up as a kid hunting Bobcat's and Mountain Lion's.

It was rare to get the Lion's but we got our share.The F&G paid my Dad 200 buck's for every one we brought in.Looking back was it the right thing to do,probably not.

Now Domestic Animal's and on ocassion Human's are being confronted by Mountain Lion's sometime's in Urban area's.

Why....becouse the population has increased by alot due to protection which is good......but to what degree.

We have seen an increase year to year in Rattlesnake's yet the wholw Damn world is doomed becouse of Global Warming so what the heck huh.

RyanThoni · Post by **RyanThoni** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:42 pm

CN wrote:
Now Domestic Animal's and on ocassion Human's are being confronted by Mountain Lion's sometime's in Urban area's.

Why....becouse the population has increased by a lot due to protection which is good......but to what degree.

What population are you referring to? Because I agree, the human population and encroachment into mountain lion habitat has increased dramatically in recent years.

I understand the part about protecting your family. I think (and I'm sure you have done this) the best thing to do is educate them on what to do when they see or hear a rattlesnake. give the snake space, leave it alone. Most rattlesnake bites occur when people are trying to catch or kill the snake. Make sure they know what rattlesnake habitat is like. Dry areas near rocky outcrops. Dappled shade in tall grass near cover. They are much like bass, but on land. Wood piles, rock piles, agricultural equipment.

Where do you live? I was only semi-joking about the last part of my original post. My herpetologist friend runs a humane snake removal business in the bay area. He is out of town doing research for some time though, so I would step in.

Dom · Post by **Dom** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:10 pm

Yea when I was a teen we stopped off at "THE BIG TEXAN" in Amarillo,Tx had the rattler and tried the Mountain Oysters also, can't say I liked either one very much at all.

Tight lines Dom

optichamp · Post by **optichamp** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:16 pm

The only one I have ever killed (it was in Texas, and legal) was about 4 feet long, and I had visions of making a belt out of it. I did cook it, and found the meat to taste okay, but so bony as to not be worth the trouble. The meat was more like crab in texture, maybe because I deep fried the hell out of it.

Deer hunting near Big Pine one year I came upon a sidewinder rattlesnake sunning itself on the road. Not a very big guy, and pretty cool with the horns on its head, like a miniature dragon. I probably burned two rolls of film whiled it posed for me.

Considering all the problems rodents can cause, I'd probably say leave rattlers alone, other than move them from areas where kids and pets might be.

chf8500 · Post by **chf8500** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:19 am

Nothing worse than stepping off the front deck and finding one of those nasty critters coiled up under the consol. Happened to a friend at San Antonio last year. Ya think he didnt do a jig getting that sucker out of the boat, lucky he had a heavy rod on the deck foul hooked the mother and sent the whole pakage over the side pays to check first no second chances with rattlers

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