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A tournament yes 50/50 on the day's expenses.If you ride with someone to the lake you should help on the Vehicle but if you meet them at the ramp no.
Heck you may live South the other North so you both paid to get there.
If I invite someone to fish for fun then I dont expect anything but a good time.
Heck you may live South the other North so you both paid to get there.
If I invite someone to fish for fun then I dont expect anything but a good time.
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Pay half the days cost, thats it nothing more. Pretty basic!
BassinHolic till I read that last post I was gonna blast on you LMAO! Been out with you lots of times bud, You had me thinking I was on the special program! hahahahahahahahaha! Guide service?? LOL
BassinHolic till I read that last post I was gonna blast on you LMAO! Been out with you lots of times bud, You had me thinking I was on the special program! hahahahahahahahaha! Guide service?? LOL
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
I decided to keep track of what it cost to drive to the Delta from my home town and fish for the day .
Here is how it was , Oakdale to Russo's 140 mile round trip towing the boat , truck fuel $50.00 in the truck at 12mpg.
For the boat i fished from Big break to whites and everywhere in between , I couldnt imagine running any more than I did . I also didnt run at wide open throttle i kept it at 3500-4000 rpm , 20gal of fuel @ 4.29 per gal . about $85.00 also my Ranger boat has an older yamaha 200hp that is carburated .
So the total without oil and launch is $135.00 , I imagine the newer motors probably do better on the fuel but it looks like to me $80 a day would cover all the costs , if you split it down the middle fishing out of an older boat like mine .
Hope this helps you all out , each situation could be different im pretty sure my boat motor uses more fuel , so mine would be the worst case if i figured it right .
Here is how it was , Oakdale to Russo's 140 mile round trip towing the boat , truck fuel $50.00 in the truck at 12mpg.
For the boat i fished from Big break to whites and everywhere in between , I couldnt imagine running any more than I did . I also didnt run at wide open throttle i kept it at 3500-4000 rpm , 20gal of fuel @ 4.29 per gal . about $85.00 also my Ranger boat has an older yamaha 200hp that is carburated .
So the total without oil and launch is $135.00 , I imagine the newer motors probably do better on the fuel but it looks like to me $80 a day would cover all the costs , if you split it down the middle fishing out of an older boat like mine .
Hope this helps you all out , each situation could be different im pretty sure my boat motor uses more fuel , so mine would be the worst case if i figured it right .
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i just gave my boater on saturday $100. we drove from walnut creek to lake pardee, ran all over the lake, and (somehow) managed to catch some fish.
in this day and age i'm not sure "that" is enough. on the other hand i "do" own a boat and wouldn't expect my non-boater to pay more than his/her fair share. i DO NOT expect them to pay for the depreciation, insurance, etc, etc. if you can't afford that as a boat owner, sell the boat.


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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
I am not sure if you were trying to be funny, but this is a little ridiculous. What is your hourly rate for time on the water?drrakruz wrote: Educate the non-boater that it isn't just the gas they are paying for. Time on the water, boat oil, insurance, wear and tear on the boat all factor into the cost of a trip now, not to mention yearly maintenance and repairs over time. Listen to your HEART! Don't gouge the guy, just make them aware that we are in living under EXTREME conditions. If they think they are being "gouged", suggest they book a trip with a Professional guide. I'm sure they'd see the light when they compare the Guide's prices vs. what they would have to pay to help for what is "fair".
Anyway, half the oil and gas for the day is fair. It is also nice to pickup the entire launch fee.
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
I fish with a lot of different people, and I only know one guy in my club the think like you, drrakruz. I traveled to Clear Lake with the tournament director two days prior to the club tournament. After completion of the tournament, the boater, jokenly said $100. $100 from Redbud to the Key's and back. Well, the previous day the, tournament director and I made the same round trip with 200 hp carborated motor and filled up at the pump before and after fishin. Therefor I knew approximately how much gas was consumed--the boat used during the tournament should haved burned less fuel because it has a 2006 HDPI. I asked him again "how much" because I was not going to pay him $100. He never gave me a different dollar figure. I gave him $20 for the gas in the boat. He then said he expect help with the diesel for pulling the boat. I traveled the the the tournament director no him! Am I expected to pay both the tournament director and the boat for the ride to the lake? The tournament director's non boat drove himself--is his non boater expected to pay for transport of the boat?
Here is the bottomline
*Gas prices are out of control
*Fishing distant waters have become a luxury. Therefore its nice to fish additional day before or after the tournament.
*Non-boater and boater should discuss traveling plans well in advance. If the boater needs help with vehicle gas, he needs to be up front with the non-boat prior to the tournament.
Clear Lake to Sacramento is about 100 mile. @12 mi/gal that about
$83 in diesel + boat gas. $50-60 is fair plus half the launch (new $10 fee).
NO AS A NON-BOATER, drrakruz, I WILL NOT PAY FOR THE GUY'S INSURENCE, AND BOAT PAYMENT. AND AS A BOATER I DO NOT EXPECT THE NON-BOAT TO DO SO. WHY DON'T YOU ALSO FACTOR IN ANNUAL MAINTENENCE COST, DEPRECIATION, TAXES, REGERISTRATION, BOAT WAX, BOAT CLEANING, ANNUAL IMPELLER CHANGE, TUNE-UP, AND THAT NEW FISHFINDER YOU ADDED. MOST BOATERS ARE OK WITH GAS IN TRUCK, BOAT, AND HALF THE LAUNCH. YOU EXPECT THEM TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE FARM. DO YOU CHARGE YOU FRIENDS IN DIRECT FEES (OTHER THAN GAS) WHEN YOU DRIVE LONG TRIPS?
Here is the bottomline
*Gas prices are out of control
*Fishing distant waters have become a luxury. Therefore its nice to fish additional day before or after the tournament.
*Non-boater and boater should discuss traveling plans well in advance. If the boater needs help with vehicle gas, he needs to be up front with the non-boat prior to the tournament.
Clear Lake to Sacramento is about 100 mile. @12 mi/gal that about
$83 in diesel + boat gas. $50-60 is fair plus half the launch (new $10 fee).
NO AS A NON-BOATER, drrakruz, I WILL NOT PAY FOR THE GUY'S INSURENCE, AND BOAT PAYMENT. AND AS A BOATER I DO NOT EXPECT THE NON-BOAT TO DO SO. WHY DON'T YOU ALSO FACTOR IN ANNUAL MAINTENENCE COST, DEPRECIATION, TAXES, REGERISTRATION, BOAT WAX, BOAT CLEANING, ANNUAL IMPELLER CHANGE, TUNE-UP, AND THAT NEW FISHFINDER YOU ADDED. MOST BOATERS ARE OK WITH GAS IN TRUCK, BOAT, AND HALF THE LAUNCH. YOU EXPECT THEM TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE FARM. DO YOU CHARGE YOU FRIENDS IN DIRECT FEES (OTHER THAN GAS) WHEN YOU DRIVE LONG TRIPS?
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
This is going to be a rub in the future with gas at $5 a gallon. I know a bunch of guys here are not fishing half the days they did a few months ago because of cost. Why don't tournament directors just discuss a fair daily cost and put it in their formats? If a boater wants to decline the money then that is his biz. I am fortunate to have my boat and truck paid off but a bunch of people have to be forking out at least $1500 a month and rising for boat, truck gas and maintenance. Non boaters come in all sizes and some are good guys and some are not. Either way they are not friends yet so they do need to pay a price for the ride. Why would anyone expect to ride around in a $50k boat for $20 a day? Seems ridiculous to me.
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This is nuts. We all know this topic too well. Non-boaters, throw your boater $80.00. He'll think of you as a gentleman, sportsman, and someone who understands the costs and willing to share. In fact, hand him the $ before you blast off.....just give it to him, done. You'll have a better day, both of you. I fished a TOC at castaic, spent the whole week down there, all the expenses. My non- boater hands me $17, "that's all I got"........Geeze, stay home next time. C'mon guys, just help the boater out, wether he "needs" it or not. $80.00, in the morning, done.
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See now things are getting crazy $80 is too much in my opinion, yeah I agree with the 17 dollars, that is just just an insult in my opinion, I think if a NB is should only have to shell out $50 bucks a day for gas period. Yeah gas prices are a burden to all of us, but as far as the boat goes $50 a day would be good. I do have to agree with the give it to the boater first thing in the morning that way the boater doesnt have to worry about it and has his money up front.tmulliken wrote:This is nuts. We all know this topic too well. Non-boaters, throw your boater $80.00. He'll think of you as a gentleman, sportsman, and someone who understands the costs and willing to share. In fact, hand him the $ before you blast off.....just give it to him, done. You'll have a better day, both of you. I fished a TOC at castaic, spent the whole week down there, all the expenses. My non- boater hands me $17, "that's all I got"........Geeze, stay home next time. C'mon guys, just help the boater out, wether he "needs" it or not. $80.00, in the morning, done.
I still say $40 to $50 dollars is plenty for a days worth of fishing. As far as gas in the truck forget that noise, ITS NOT THE NB'S responsibility to fill the dang truck, unless the NB is sharing a ride with the boater. Bottom line boaters getting $40-$50 dollars for a day on the lake is plenty good, forget about the oil, the depressiation stuff and concentrate on the simple stuff. Either way the boater is getting some form of relief from the over priced gas prices. Bottom line both people are fishing, both people are in the tourney to win and learn and most of all enjoy our sport.
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Pre-paying in the morning is not practical because you don't know what the fishing spots will be. I personally would determine the distance travel throghout the day using my gps unit. Then calculate the cost of gas using my MPG and current gas price. The NB is then responsible for half the gas in the boat and half of any other expenses he shared in. If the NB found other transportation to the water then he/she is not responsible for that cost. NOR ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING MY BOAT AND TRUCK PAYMENT. THE BOAT PAYMENT DOES NOT CHANGE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A NB ONBOARD. LIKEWISE, YOU DON'T EXPECT TO HAVE SOMEONE PAY YOUR CAR PAYMENT IF YOU OWN A EXPENSIVE VEHICLE. YOU BOATERS WITH TOO MUCH EXPECTATIONS NEED TO GET REALISTIC.
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This whole thing is pretty funny. I dont fish many tournaments so this doesnt get to me as it gets to some of you. I fun fish and when I do, I do it with guys I know that will give me half.
For all you non boaters out there. So when you fish a tournament and you win with your partner. Do you split it down the middle or only get quarter?
For all you non boaters out there. So when you fish a tournament and you win with your partner. Do you split it down the middle or only get quarter?
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
It is a funny thread, to read.
I don't remember any questions about my nonboaters, when I financed my boat, nor did any sign with me on the dotted line.
The arguement seems to swing from a spreadsheet format of what it actually costs to fish for a day, to just boat gas/maybe boat oil, to, "I was going fishing anyway..."
The reason I used the Clearlake nonboater story, the two guys left from the same town (Rio) and were planning on shorting the boaters so they could spend more and drink more at the casino on the way home.
Its still funny to me this day. Only when I said, "moped" the scene from Dumb and Dumber, with two comedians riding a minibike with frozen snot streaming down their faces popped into mind.
The other thing I have noticed, guys more readily pay when they have absolutely kicked everyone's butt. Money and beer flow freely. Guys start chiseling, and really try to whittle the price down if the day stank.
I have refused money if my great big stupid plan takes a dive, or if something goes really wrong with the boat etc.
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I don't remember any questions about my nonboaters, when I financed my boat, nor did any sign with me on the dotted line.
The arguement seems to swing from a spreadsheet format of what it actually costs to fish for a day, to just boat gas/maybe boat oil, to, "I was going fishing anyway..."
The reason I used the Clearlake nonboater story, the two guys left from the same town (Rio) and were planning on shorting the boaters so they could spend more and drink more at the casino on the way home.

Its still funny to me this day. Only when I said, "moped" the scene from Dumb and Dumber, with two comedians riding a minibike with frozen snot streaming down their faces popped into mind.
The other thing I have noticed, guys more readily pay when they have absolutely kicked everyone's butt. Money and beer flow freely. Guys start chiseling, and really try to whittle the price down if the day stank.
I have refused money if my great big stupid plan takes a dive, or if something goes really wrong with the boat etc.
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As Pro's We are fishing no matter what, Count gas offerings as blessings, be professional and work hard. Most will be observant of the facts and pitch in to help. Non Boaters get it they do step up and help with the days expenses in the majority of cases, I have had no zero help days and most are more than generous, 40-60 bucks is fair, but understand it should not be expected, you are professional anglers....
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
DAN,thank you.I just got done typing a reply to some of this stuff but deleted it because it came off as a bit harch.I agree with you whole heartaly.One thing we need to remember is that we need each other to fish pro-am formats no matter how we feel.$40.00 to $50.00 aday should be fine.
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
I guess my post it wasnt very clear about how i arrived at the $80.00 figure , it was calculated driving from where i live (Oakdale) to the Delta and the guy I fished with rode with me to the delta , it was just our day of fishing what it cost , yours will be different .
Im sure everyone lives different distances so you should figure it out for yourself , I was kind of surprised how much it cost for me to go and fish the Delta for the day .
Maybe they should have an offlimits the week before the tourney so everyone saves some gas , no pre-fish might be a good idea .
Im sure everyone lives different distances so you should figure it out for yourself , I was kind of surprised how much it cost for me to go and fish the Delta for the day .
Maybe they should have an offlimits the week before the tourney so everyone saves some gas , no pre-fish might be a good idea .

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How hard is it to be up front with the non-boater about what you expect them to pay? If you are upfront about what you want then the NB will know what to expect. If the NB don't like how much you wanna charge them don't let them in your boat, BUT YOU WON'T BE FISHING NOW TOO IF ITS A PRO AM, FUN FISHING YOUR GOOD!. If boaters want the NB to pay for their boat (insurance, boat payment etc. LMAO) Then let him have half the rights to your boat!
this stuff is just funny to me....
If you drive up with the boater pay half the gas for the vehicle. If you drive up on your own don't.
Pay half the boat gas that was used for the day.
Buy your own lunch, let him buy his.
Split the oil cost if the boater feels you need to.
Pay your own part of the tourney fee.
Offer to help wipe down the boat at the end of the day, and keep the boat clean, and be ready to roll at any given moment. You do these things, and I'm sure the boater will take be willing to take you out again!
The End!

If you drive up with the boater pay half the gas for the vehicle. If you drive up on your own don't.
Pay half the boat gas that was used for the day.
Buy your own lunch, let him buy his.
Split the oil cost if the boater feels you need to.
Pay your own part of the tourney fee.
Offer to help wipe down the boat at the end of the day, and keep the boat clean, and be ready to roll at any given moment. You do these things, and I'm sure the boater will take be willing to take you out again!
The End!
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Perfect! This should be a sticky,lolg-man wrote:How hard is it to be up front with the non-boater about what you expect them to pay? If you are upfront about what you want then the NB will know what to expect. If the NB don't like how much you wanna charge them don't let them in your boat. If boaters want the NB to pay for their boat (insurance, boat payment etc. LMAO) Then let him have half the rights to your boat!this stuff is just funny to me....
If you drive up with the boater pay half the gas for the vehicle. If you drive up on your own don't.
Pay half the boat gas that was used for the day.
Buy your own lunch, let him buy his.
Split the oil cost if the boater feels you need to.
Pay your own part of the tourney fee.
Offer to help wipe down the boat at the end of the day, and keep the boat clean, and be ready to roll at any given moment. You do these things, and I'm sure the boater will take be willing to take you out again!
The End!
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Keep it going, this thread totally cracks me up.
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Get a float tube and then you dont have to worry about it. Right gman? 

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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Well said G.....Well saidg-man wrote:How hard is it to be up front with the non-boater about what you expect them to pay? If you are upfront about what you want then the NB will know what to expect. If the NB don't like how much you wanna charge them don't let them in your boat. If boaters want the NB to pay for their boat (insurance, boat payment etc. LMAO) Then let him have half the rights to your boat!this stuff is just funny to me....
If you drive up with the boater pay half the gas for the vehicle. If you drive up on your own don't.
Pay half the boat gas that was used for the day.
Buy your own lunch, let him buy his.
Split the oil cost if the boater feels you need to.
Pay your own part of the tourney fee.
Offer to help wipe down the boat at the end of the day, and keep the boat clean, and be ready to roll at any given moment. You do these things, and I'm sure the boater will take be willing to take you out again!
The End!
I will add this - If I am going fishing and someone tags along, I never expect and most times turn down money for gas. If I am pre-fishing for a tournament and take someone along who is also fishing the tournament, I will accept whatever they offer. I don't get wrapped up in the "He stiffed me" or "He is cheap" thing........
I own a boat, I accept that responsibility and if someone wants to help out, so be it. If not, chalk it up to experience and move on.........
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
A cool way to get the boater to accept what at first may seem like too much cash is this. I tell the boater,
"Hey, I OWN a boat, I know what it costs to go fishing."
Repeat.
And then the boater will usually accept, and everything is cool. No chiseling on his part etc.
.02 or maybe an extra five,
A.G.
"Hey, I OWN a boat, I know what it costs to go fishing."
Repeat.
And then the boater will usually accept, and everything is cool. No chiseling on his part etc.
.02 or maybe an extra five,
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Brian Ruthman wrote:I guess my post it wasnt very clear about how i arrived at the $80.00 figure , it was calculated driving from where i live (Oakdale) to the Delta and the guy I fished with rode with me to the delta , it was just our day of fishing what it cost , yours will be different .
Im sure everyone lives different distances so you should figure it out for yourself , I was kind of surprised how much it cost for me to go and fish the Delta for the day .
Maybe they should have an offlimits the week before the tourney so everyone saves some gas , no pre-fish might be a good idea .
So you're say you spent $160 for one day of fishing.
According to Yahoo Map round trip distance is 76 miles. At 15 miles/gal (assuming your pulling a bass boat with a 1/2 ton v8). Thats 5 gallons in the truck @4.50/gal=22.50
Launch=$10 (for most places)
The subtotal is 32.50 in fuel not including the boat.
hmm $160-32.50=127.50
How can you spend 127.50 in boat gas? @$4.50/gal=28.3 gal. @ 2mpg=56 miles of driving in the Delta. Show us how you arrived at $80 for NB or $160 total expenses.
You either need to stop ripping the NB off, or learn how to fish an area vs running all around. 58 miles of driving around in the boat is just insane. I can do better in Frank Tract vs running from Sycamore to Tracy. Cooch guided me and we stayed in Franks and Sandmound. He couldn't have burned more than 3 gal of gas. Its funny how a lot of top finishers win tournaments in the Tract.
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All alot of you people are allways crying about gas money for your boat. Seems that you can't afford it anymore and it's time to sell your boat and stop crying about the nonboaters.
In most touraments the nonboater has no say to where he is going to fish as this is the boaters choice and you're the one that made the choice to run 50 MILES up the river or 15 Miles across the lake.
You should be happy that he/she gave you something as it coat him $$$ also to enter that Tourament plus the drive thier as well.
The nonboater owes you nothing it's a plus if you get anything.
If your fishing a tourament check your rules thier nothing that states that he owes you $$.
BTW I'm a boater and expect nothing from the nonboater but it's nice to have some one offer.
Get OVER it
In most touraments the nonboater has no say to where he is going to fish as this is the boaters choice and you're the one that made the choice to run 50 MILES up the river or 15 Miles across the lake.
You should be happy that he/she gave you something as it coat him $$$ also to enter that Tourament plus the drive thier as well.
The nonboater owes you nothing it's a plus if you get anything.
If your fishing a tourament check your rules thier nothing that states that he owes you $$.
BTW I'm a boater and expect nothing from the nonboater but it's nice to have some one offer.
Get OVER it
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I'm over it. Most of the time we end up passing around that $20-50 amount between friends anyways. I hardly burn $25 running around anymore with my new 2004 Evinrude. That gets me almost 30 miles. And I'm blessed because nearest Delta launch is 15 min. away. Well 5 min. if you count Garcia Park. See ya all later, I goin to find myself a non boater to pay for my boat, truck, tackle, and annual ramp pass. 

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OMG! Pay your share for the DAY!
Thats it!! Nothing more, nothing less.
Thats IT! Game over, end of topic.
Thats it!! Nothing more, nothing less.
Thats IT! Game over, end of topic.
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Twister , im glad your over it .If you got a problem with me just let me know is that fair enough ?
To be exact driving from where i live east of Oakdale it is 72 miles one way so round trip is 144 miles .So the fuel which it costs in Oakdale is $4.37 per gallon 12 gallons comes out to $52.44 .
Also when we were done fishing for the day , we filled up the boat close to Russos , the fuel was $4.29 per gallon and it was $85.00 worth of fuel 19.81 gallons of fuel .
The boat launch was $10.00 i think , im not sure because my friend paid it .
So that all that comes out to $147.44 divided by 2 = $73.72 grand total for the day of fishing each . I just rounded it to $80.00 for some oil , i guess i could break that down for you but i dont remember what the oil cost me per gallon . I guess the $6.28 for the oil portion that i figured was kind of steep I just rounded the total up to $80 so im sorry i offended you .
As far as me ripping a Non boater off , I havent fished but 2 Pro/Ams before on the Pro side and that was Nor-Cal Bass this year so you need to check into that i never asked my Ams for a dime but they each gave me $20-30 and they were real nice guys , feel free to call up every tourney director in the country and they will tell you i have only fished the Am side . So i havent ripped anyone off and never will .
Yes my friend and I drove all over the Delta but i have only fished it like twice out of my own boat and that was from ladds in Stockton , my friend was showing me how to get around the Delta on Sunday launching at Russos it had nothing to do with staying close and catching fish in Franks if you checked out the tide it was incoming so we went west to Big Break first thing were trying to run the tide east toward stockton fishing the current on the incoming tide .
It was just a fun day of me and a friend fishing and him showing me around , thats it .
When i do start fishing the Pro side of some of the larger events you can bet one thing if i cant afford to do it on my own without worrying about collection a small amount of cash from my Non boater then im not going to fish , that keeps it pretty simple .
I hope that straightens it up for you , feel free to call me on my cell phone tomorrow 209-606-2881 im easy to reach .
To be exact driving from where i live east of Oakdale it is 72 miles one way so round trip is 144 miles .So the fuel which it costs in Oakdale is $4.37 per gallon 12 gallons comes out to $52.44 .
Also when we were done fishing for the day , we filled up the boat close to Russos , the fuel was $4.29 per gallon and it was $85.00 worth of fuel 19.81 gallons of fuel .
The boat launch was $10.00 i think , im not sure because my friend paid it .
So that all that comes out to $147.44 divided by 2 = $73.72 grand total for the day of fishing each . I just rounded it to $80.00 for some oil , i guess i could break that down for you but i dont remember what the oil cost me per gallon . I guess the $6.28 for the oil portion that i figured was kind of steep I just rounded the total up to $80 so im sorry i offended you .
As far as me ripping a Non boater off , I havent fished but 2 Pro/Ams before on the Pro side and that was Nor-Cal Bass this year so you need to check into that i never asked my Ams for a dime but they each gave me $20-30 and they were real nice guys , feel free to call up every tourney director in the country and they will tell you i have only fished the Am side . So i havent ripped anyone off and never will .
Yes my friend and I drove all over the Delta but i have only fished it like twice out of my own boat and that was from ladds in Stockton , my friend was showing me how to get around the Delta on Sunday launching at Russos it had nothing to do with staying close and catching fish in Franks if you checked out the tide it was incoming so we went west to Big Break first thing were trying to run the tide east toward stockton fishing the current on the incoming tide .
It was just a fun day of me and a friend fishing and him showing me around , thats it .
When i do start fishing the Pro side of some of the larger events you can bet one thing if i cant afford to do it on my own without worrying about collection a small amount of cash from my Non boater then im not going to fish , that keeps it pretty simple .
I hope that straightens it up for you , feel free to call me on my cell phone tomorrow 209-606-2881 im easy to reach .
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Crank calls coming you messed up BAD!
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
UHH. You might have a non boater on here who is a gay transvestite and will start calling and showing up at the tournament launch with pink pumps on. Be afraid, be very afraid. TRUST NO ONE! 

Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
This f@$#ing question agan.
The answer is simple...if you don't have a boat then DON'T BOAT!!!
Don't be a "non-boater" at the mercy of some grumpy old fart. Stick to the bank or get yourself an aluminum and have at it.
The answer is simple...if you don't have a boat then DON'T BOAT!!!
Don't be a "non-boater" at the mercy of some grumpy old fart. Stick to the bank or get yourself an aluminum and have at it.
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
If you're the boater in a tourney, go ahead and kick the NB out of the boat and then you're both not fishing and you're both out your entry!g-man wrote:How hard is it to be up front with the non-boater about what you expect them to pay? If you are upfront about what you want then the NB will know what to expect. If the NB don't like how much you wanna charge them don't let them in your boat. If boaters want the NB to pay for their boat (insurance, boat payment etc. LMAO) Then let him have half the rights to your boat!this stuff is just funny to me....
Good luck with that one

Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Buzzbait Wrote:
This f@$#ing question agan.
The answer is simple...if you don't have a boat then DON'T BOAT!!!
Don't be a "non-boater" at the mercy of some grumpy old fart. Stick to the bank or get yourself an aluminum and have at it.
Please explain what you mean with this post, I am not sure what your trying to state, if you do not own a boat do not get in one?
Mark
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Tin Can wrote:If you're the boater in a tourney, go ahead and kick the NB out of the boat and then you're both not fishing and you're both out your entry!g-man wrote:How hard is it to be up front with the non-boater about what you expect them to pay? If you are upfront about what you want then the NB will know what to expect. If the NB don't like how much you wanna charge them don't let them in your boat. If boaters want the NB to pay for their boat (insurance, boat payment etc. LMAO) Then let him have half the rights to your boat!this stuff is just funny to me....
Good luck with that one





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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Can I get a backseat on the tube?g-man wrote:Tin Can wrote:If you're the boater in a tourney, go ahead and kick the NB out of the boat and then you're both not fishing and you're both out your entry!g-man wrote:How hard is it to be up front with the non-boater about what you expect them to pay? If you are upfront about what you want then the NB will know what to expect. If the NB don't like how much you wanna charge them don't let them in your boat. If boaters want the NB to pay for their boat (insurance, boat payment etc. LMAO) Then let him have half the rights to your boat!this stuff is just funny to me....
Good luck with that one
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Hipster wrote:Buzzbait Wrote:
This f@$#ing question agan.
The answer is simple...if you don't have a boat then DON'T BOAT!!!
Don't be a "non-boater" at the mercy of some grumpy old fart. Stick to the bank or get yourself an aluminum and have at it.
Please explain what you mean with this post, I am not sure what your trying to state, if you do not own a boat do not get in one?
Mark
Yes. I'm saying do not fish pro/am, draw tourneys...whatever. Just don't do it.
If you don't have a boat then don't set foot on anyone elses boat unless they are your friend. Don't pay some dude to tow his boat a 100 miles to get to the lake...dont' put your self at some random dude's mercy and then have to pay for him to haul *** everywhere while on the lake.
If you don't have a boat then bank fish or get a little aluminum. Work your way up to where you can get your own boat....that's what I did....and by the way I never ask my buddies for any money when I take them out....that is freakin' ridiculous.
Not to mention that if you're going to pay some fool $100 once a month to go fishing you CAN already afford a boat. For $102/month you can get a decent boat @ 8.24%apr for $4,200 sticker price. That's not a $20K bass boat, but it is still a pretty nice boat.
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Thanks for clarifying!!
I am getting quite the giggles outta this thread!!
Mark



I am getting quite the giggles outta this thread!!


Mark
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
What boat can you buy for a 4200 sticker price?
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
$3,850 - Fully equipped BASS BOAT in great shape hereTin Can wrote:What boat can you buy for a 4200 sticker price?
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/714936746.html

$3,600 - Another nice BASS BOAT
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/712446736.html
$4,100 - Even nicer BASS BOAT
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/710061055.html

$3,500 - Freakin' sweet boat right here
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/715659150.html

$2,500 - Another great boat
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/715578580.html
$3,500 - This one is excellent as well
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/715546442.html
$3,500 - Decent boat
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/boa/715026205.html
Point made? By the looks of your screen name Tin Can I'd think you'd love to have any one of these. Mine is probably the equivolent of the least attractive one....but I don't have to f@3k around with any "boaters" and their crazy ****. I go where and when I want.
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Tin, I forgot that small part! LMAO I keep telling myself no posting on WB after 9pm drinking! LOL But ya know what I meant! 

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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
LOL! You always come off like you're mad at everyone dude. I just asked a question, I didn't ask you to prove any points.Buzzbait wrote:Point made? By the looks of your screen name Tin Can I'd think you'd love to have any one of these. Mine is probably the equivolent of the least attractive one....but I don't have to f@3k around with any "boaters" and their crazy ****. I go where and when I want.Tin Can wrote:What boat can you buy for a 4200 sticker price?
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
This post was made a week ago and the price per gallon in Calif has gone up $.18. Now what should the non boater pay?W.C wrote:Just woundering now that the gas prices have gone though the roof, what would be fair to ask your non-boater or too give to your boater at the pumps as well as for the days launch?? I know that some of you guys are rich and only ask about 20.00 if that, but that 20.00 dollars don't go very far at the pumps these days. and "NO" I'm not asking to pay for half the note on the boat either!!!

What about the cost to charge up the trolling motor batteries? PG&E is going up also.

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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Tin Can wrote:LOL! You always come off like you're mad at everyone dude. I just asked a question, I didn't ask you to prove any points.Buzzbait wrote:Point made? By the looks of your screen name Tin Can I'd think you'd love to have any one of these. Mine is probably the equivolent of the least attractive one....but I don't have to f@3k around with any "boaters" and their crazy ****. I go where and when I want.Tin Can wrote:What boat can you buy for a 4200 sticker price?

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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
puss!Buzzbait wrote:Tin Can wrote:LOL! You always come off like you're mad at everyone dude. I just asked a question, I didn't ask you to prove any points.Buzzbait wrote: Point made? By the looks of your screen name Tin Can I'd think you'd love to have any one of these. Mine is probably the equivolent of the least attractive one....but I don't have to f@3k around with any "boaters" and their crazy ****. I go where and when I want.


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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
I hear youg-man wrote:Tin, I forgot that small part! LMAO I keep telling myself no posting on WB after 9pm drinking! LOL But ya know what I meant!


Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
Drunkard!g-man wrote:Tin, I forgot that small part! LMAO I keep telling myself no posting on WB after 9pm drinking! LOL But ya know what I meant!

Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
just paid $4000 for my '95 javelin with a 150 hp johnson fast strike.Tin Can wrote:What boat can you buy for a 4200 sticker price?
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
GPS the milage? then calculate the MPG? that's funny as hell, it really is!
Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
I think this should be added to the Forum Rules....g-man wrote: LMAO I keep telling myself no posting on WB after 9pm drinking!
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Re: Half the days expenses?? @ todays gas prices, whats fair
or you could just put me on time out from 9pm to 6am! hehe!ash wrote:I think this should be added to the Forum Rules....g-man wrote: LMAO I keep telling myself no posting on WB after 9pm drinking!
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