Manteca Bass Pro

Skeeterman · Post by **Skeeterman** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:12 pm

Over 3 thousand people put application for the jobs for the shop they will dong the same thing tomorrow so if your looking for that type of job now is your chance.Watch ch.10 news for details.

basshunter4u · Post by **basshunter4u** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:32 pm

Thats bad news in my books now the mom and pop tackle shops around the area are going to suffer now that the wall mart of bass fishing has moved in.

DO

Mike · Post by **Mike** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:36 pm

Not if we support them. Bass Pro Shops has always been just a phone call away. Now you have to pay sales tax on your purchases. This is even more reason to buy at your local shop. Besides BPS dont have the good stuff!!

eagle123777 · Post by **eagle123777** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:49 pm

bps..doesnt carry a thing i use...but randy at escalon bait and tackle does...and if he doesnt he orders it for me...he aint losin my business....jack

Grape Ape · Post by **Grape Ape** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:17 pm

You guys have got to be kidding (or smokin crack) right? BPS is going to be great for this area! Call it what you want but, I'm looking forward for it's grand opening! A fishermans amusement park!

plungers · Post by **plungers** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:53 pm

Hows that grape ape?

biteme · Post by **biteme** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:57 pm

Everyone is always talking about the ma and pa stores. Problem is when I go into these places to buy stuff they dont have what Im looking for!
Guys say ask the owner then they will order the item. Well thats more gas going to the store.

ron4493 · Post by **ron4493** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:19 pm

I'm not so sure that BPS will put anyone out of business. Maybe the economy will though.

I have been going to Bass pro shops since they started in a liquor store in Springfield Missouri, (I'm aging myself) and I have been to several others in different states over the years also. None match up to the original one in Springfield, Mo. The place is fantastic because of all the ponds , animals, fish and museum, etc. They have it all, but still I couldnt get things that we have in California.

I used to spend a lot of money there everytime I visited family there. Over the years though, I find I spend a lot more money at local stores and local on-line stores to get what I want and to also get it quicker.

For some, BPS will be great, but after a while, you may find the excitement slows a bit. Anyway, I hope people still support our local businesses or we may find there will be some things that we may not be able to get so easily.

I admit I will probably take a trip to the store if I'm in the area but wont be making a special trip to do it. They will have some things that we cant allways get locally, but online may be easier. There shipping is a whole lot slower though.

Just my 2 cents.

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:56 pm

Grape Ape wrote: I'm looking forward for it's grand opening! A fishermans amusement park!

NO JUMPING IN THE TANK!

Don.

Marty · Post by **Marty** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:25 pm

I always go to the BPS when Iâ€™m on a business trip (Colorado, Maryland, Florida, Texas, and Nevada). It is a good way to spend the evening and a lot better then sitting in a room whishing I was home and going fishing. I will spend hours looking around at all of the stuff they have and even may pick up some small baits that they have on sale, you know the ones that lay around in you tackle box that donâ€™t catch fish. I will also go out and check this new one in Manteca and check out the Bass they have in their tank (you know they are going to bring some big ones in because of the Delta).

But I just want to strike a chord with you about one Ma and Pa Store that I use, Geneâ€™s â€œHook Line and Sinkerâ€

basstamer · Post by **basstamer** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:38 pm

I agree with Grape-I cant wait for them to open and I personally am gonna spend as much as I can there as often as I can! As far as the Mom and Pop places they have a following and will most likely lose some of them but I saw a survey once saying MOST of BPS's customers are tourists anyway

Whatever! As far as the Mom and Pop places go I work hard for my money and want to get as much as I can for as little as possible.If most of the other places didnt try and pay their mortgage everytime the sell a bag of worms then I would feel a little more sorry for them-I am not saying ALL the stores up there are that way but we all know some of them are. I have never been to a Bass Pro that didnt ask if they could help,help you find something or ask if you have any questions. I am not gonna mention names on here but the is a coule stores you go into and they are always more interested in what they or having for lunch or who is gonna go get it-I HATE being ignored when i am standing at the register and have to listen to that b******t-last time I was at one in the San Jose I stood there for about 5 minutes listening to the girl argue with her boyfriend on the cell phone and I left about $120.00 worth of merchandise laying on the counter and walked out.Something like that will NEVER happen at a Bass Pro so I say BRING 'EM ON!!!Hell I wish I could afford to work there! Am I thrilled they are FINALLY here??? HELL YES!!!! We all know this isnt going to affect people like Gene at the Hook and etc but these other clowns are gonna get a well deserved boot-its called Karma,we have been at a couple of thems mercy for a looooong time and now they are snakebit! Tight Lines and see ya at the Grand Opening!
Scott
PS-Ohhh yeah just my .02

texas john · Post by **texas john** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:13 am

Comming from an area that had a BPS (Ft Worth Texas) I miss it. When I moved to CA I knew the fishing and fishing stores would be different, but they are way different. Most of the "Mom & Pop" places here have a good selection but not great due to there size limitations. BPS will not have that, I would rather shop online for the BPS stuff and save the sales tax and maybe hit mom & pop for last minute things. Also if you have never been to a BPS you can spend the day looking around the store at the tanks, mounts and a ton of other stuff. I say we let mom & pop worry about mom & pop, they are big kids and will be just fine, embrace the fact that we are getting one of the premire Hunting/Fishing stores in the country in our area. And to those that say they don't use anything than BPS sells, your just kidding yourself.

big_gorilla · Post by **big_gorilla** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:28 am

A lot of guys down south here said the same thing. That they wouldn't go there and they don't carry stuff they like. What a joke! When I'm in there I see those people with carts full of stuff. They carry a lot of things your local tackle doesn't carry and the store is always pact with people.

Your local tackle stores will have stuff that BPS doesn't carry but it will have three times the amount of tackle a local tackle store can carry. I go there for stuff the local guys don't carry.

I agree with most when they say support your local tacke store first but don't limit yourself.

Slippy · Post by **Slippy** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:19 am

if you never been to a BPS, go to this one and go to the crank bait isle.... your jaw will drop.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:22 am

I would tend to go there more for the HUNTING stuff then the fishing stuff. They have a few good fishing related things that you cant get local. They wouldnt be building new stores all the time if they were not getting alot of bussiness. Someone is shopping there, that is for sure.

Top'r · Post by **Top'r** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:41 am

Like many of you here, I spend my hard earned money at THE HOOK. When I walk in the store & Gene says... Hi Clay, I know I'm welcome. Before my first ABA championship @ Oroville, a few years back, Gene spent hours with me, and a topo map marking up many possible spots. Then of course he GLADLY sold me everything I needed...LOL..
When he does not have a particular item in his stores, He places to order that day. BPS will be a fantastic place for the valley & Manteca. Just think of all the sales tax they will reap in. But with gas @ $4.50 per gallon, I'll not be making a trip to Manteca any time soon. My money will be spent @ the HOOK.... Clay Sutterfield

mac (Doyle McEwen) · Post by **mac (Doyle McEwen)** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:49 am

In the last 5 years, I think there has been maybe three times I walked in and out of a tackle store without spending any money..I truly love them all..I know I have never been in the Hook without leaving some money behind, the same can be said for Mel Cottons and Coyote Bait and Tackle..I may not spend much, but I always spend some..Supporting your local tackle dealer is a very wise investment, not only do you get good service generally, you can also get tons of valuable information..These dealers hear all the stories and local gossip as well as what is working and where..

mac

Caudawg · Post by **Caudawg** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:44 am

This should be a wakeup call to all tackleshops in Northern CA. The competition is about to get tougher than ever! So now is the time to review your business practices, tighten your belt, advertise effectively and often etc.

And here's a little hint...No more empty pegs!!!!

Grape Ape · Post by **Grape Ape** » Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:56 pm

Caudawg.....now that you brought that up........"empty pegs". What the heck is going on over at "Auto Life" in Modesto? The tackle department there has going to hell. I don't even bother going in there anymore. The best tackle shop in Modesto (Bass), as far as I'm concerned, is C & C Marine! Jim has really done a great job in getting the best tackle for us. If you haven't been there in awhile go check it out! (Jim I expect my check in the mail by tomorrow!) LOL

Caudawg · Post by **Caudawg** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:16 am

Yeah! Empty pegs means we are forced to look elsewhere for what we need. It is a very simple concept that many shops have a tough time grasping.

Now that things are about to change drastically...it is time for shopowners to do all they can to prevent THEIR customers from going elsewhere to make a tackle purchase. This ain't rocket science!

bassindon69 · Post by **bassindon69** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:47 am

Caudawg wrote: This ain't rocket science!

Right, it's Bass fishing it's much more complicated

Don.

Skunkedagain · Post by **Skunkedagain** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:49 am

I wish things were as simple as they seem on the surface. Small business in America is no longer what it used to be. You have large companies that have completely changed the business model, whether it be fishing lures to TV sets. Gigantic companies have a lot more leverage than smaller ones. In fact, they often "set" the price. I know it sounds crazy, but they have such buying power that they tell some companies what they will buy their murchendise for. I bet most people would be totally suprised to know what the actual mark up on products was. I don't know what it is on fishing equipment but I wouldn't be the least suprised if it was 20% or lower. What then happens is the larger company either buys the stuff for lower than what the smaller company can (often times because they will buy a heck of a lot more of it to stock in their 20 locations and warehouse) and therfore be able to sell it a lot lower than the "mom and pop" shop can. I'm over simplifiying it but theres the gist of it.

I understand (as I will buy things from BPS i'm sure) the need to spend our money and make it go as far as possible...we all work hard for what we make. But, I myself will always make and effort to spend my money in the local mom and pop shops. One thing i will NEVER do is go into them, ask their advice, and then turn around and buy my products elsewhere. I think that much we owe em.

Guess this is where i say "just my 2 cents"

kopper_bass · Post by **kopper_bass** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:37 am

TX John and All,

BTW - as soon as BPS opens a store here in CA. you will no longer get online sales with NO SALES TAX. You will quickly see sales tax added to all your onlinepurchases too. Once they have a brick & mortar location established in CA they are required by law to collect sales tax on all orders sold in CA, irregardless of whether the purchase is online or local.

So, keep that in mind as you consider who gives you the best price and the best service.

Kopper_Bass

Caudawg · Post by **Caudawg** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:51 am

Bass Pro Shops opened a store in southern CA last year.

TWinger · Post by **TWinger** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:59 am

When I was in retail Farming, years ago 25 plus, they used to have a saying if we don't mark up at least 185% we can't keep the doors open. What is it now in retail? In the clothing business I heard it was 300 %. Is that true. Anyone in the business now that can shed some light without getting fired for it?

ash · Post by **ash** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:16 am

I am not driving to Manteca to go to a BPS. There is stuff that my local dealers dont sale and I purchase on-line (I think most guys do anymore) I still visit the local stores before I purchase anything online, when I am in Oakley I go to the Hook, Clear Lake, Limit Out, Sac - (I miss the Ole Troys) Fishermans Warehouse.

These are the guys that support us on the club level and charity level, these are the guys that I support.

Will BPS hurt the smaller stores - maybe. I tend to think it is not going to effect my purchasing habits.

As for the Sales Tax deal as stated earlier - BPS has been in SoCal for about a year now.

rich mendoza · Post by **rich mendoza** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:21 am

clothing has an average 30-50% margin (some times more) from what ive seen when i worked retail in the motor cycle world.

kopper_bass · Post by **kopper_bass** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:23 pm

yeah - i realized that.
i checked their website; guess they only charge for Missouri residents right now.

Strange how they get away with that. Most retailers cannot.

Hmmmmmm.....................????

Kopper_Bass

rich mendoza · Post by **rich mendoza** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 7:34 pm

is it that your buying from missouri? since that is were the "purchase" is made and shipped from?? probly dosent matter but just an idea.

badbass25 · Post by **badbass25** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:05 pm

I went down there and waited in the long line. I've got a second interview on Friday. I am hoping I get the job.

Skunkedagain · Post by **Skunkedagain** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:32 pm

Good luck baddbass!

badbass25 · Post by **badbass25** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:47 am

thanks skunked. i was hoping to get in the fishing department, but was offered a second interview for the marine department. I would have thought more guys from here would have gone down there.
Wes

Skunkedagain · Post by **Skunkedagain** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:34 pm

Well, the marine department would be a nice foot in the door...eventually a position would probably open up in the fishing department

David Rogers · Post by **David Rogers** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:14 pm

I will make a first trip just to check it out, I have never been to one before, lets face it, its a grown fellers Chuck-E-Cheese!!!

All those awesome tanks with giant bass, Cats, crappie & bluegill.

I will take my kids but after that I will not make the trip but maybe 1 every 5 years or even that, its not worth the trip, gas, time and my local guys prices are the same or better.

But I know my jaw will be on the ground the whole time I am there:)

badbass25 · Post by **badbass25** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:03 pm

That's the way I look at it, as a foot in the door. Even if a position in the fishing department doesn't open up, it will still be cool to work there.

Trackerbass · Post by **Trackerbass** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:35 pm

hey badbass, you gonna let us all use your employee discount?

badbass25 · Post by **badbass25** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:43 pm

Yea sure you are all my brothers right?

frank · Post by **frank** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:42 pm

I am all for it if it can be a one stop shop. It is sad when my local shop can not even keep green pumpkin or watermelon red flake senkos in stock or they run out of 65 pound test power pro. I have been shopping on the internet anyway due to the fact that places are always out of the common basics that we all keep in our boats. If you can not keep up your inventory and people have to go to a few differnt places to fill out their tackle or wait for it to come in do you expect to stay in business?

Guy Kelley · Post by **Guy Kelley** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:11 am

Yeah, I ll make a visit to the New Mantica store, more out of curiosity than need.

Why should I support the equivalent of the K-Mart in Tackle stores. When there is a perfectly good store down the street from me (HOOK)

When It comes to supporting the local events, charitable organizations, (BBAC) and others. I don't see Bass giving out rods and tackle for these. But Gene dose.

Makes a huge difference in my book. I may pay a buck or two more. but we get it back in spades.

I rater give my tax dollars through a local store that is pumping it back to the home town , than some mega corporation who can put a squeeze on the local merchants because of there buying power.

Guy Kelley · Post by **Guy Kelley** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:23 am

[quote="frank"]I am all for it if it can be a one stop shop. It is sad when my local shop can not even keep green pumpkin or watermelon red flake senkos in stock or they run out of 65 pound test power pro. I have been shopping on the internet anyway due to the fact that places are always out of the common basics that we all keep in our boats. If you can not keep up your inventory and people have to go to a few differnt places to fill out their tackle or wait for it to come in do you expect to stay in business?[/quote]

Good deal Frank, so when ya want Bass to fix your t/m on the day before tournament , you wont mind waiting in line , then handed a tag and told it will be two weeks before they can even look at it.

So then when ya go back to your local merchant, with your hat in your hand, don't be surprised if they look at ya funny like !

When the pegs are empty ? I just go down the street to my other store !

But I usually don't really have that problem. Due to I don't run out and then panic because I need it right now !!! If ya stayed on top of your inventory you would not be in panic mode.

frank · Post by **frank** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:19 pm

Guy, not panic mode, convienance mode. If I want to go fish next weekend and I go out on Monday to get a few things at the local shop because I took my dad and his friend fishing the day before and they used my last 3 bags of my favorite color of senkos and they are out of stock I still have to drive some where else. The nearest alterative is 20 minutes away, not 3 blocks over. Now those few baits I WAS willing to pay a few dollars extra to support a local shop turn into a few extra bucks in gas, not to mention extra time driving accross town. Next thing you know those senkos and other baits are worth their weight in gold.

And repairs, the average wait for routine reel maintenance is 3 weeks at my local shop. I got tired of it so I just learned how to do it myself. Sonny's on the other hand is awesome and I will always take my T/M there as long as he is in business even though it is a pretty good drive for me. He has always treated me well and has earned my business.

I am not saying all local shops are not keeping up on their business and inventories, I am speaking out of personal experiences with my local shop. The only point I was making is that people will blame BASS PRO for smaller shops going out of business when in some cases it will be their own fault. Many places were the only option in the area to get many of the things that we all use frequently but now they have some added competition the panic button is getting overworked. Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't BASS PRO one of the small shops we are talking about many years ago. They must have had a solid business plan to grow into what we know today.

It does not matter if it is a tackle shop or doughnut shop, business is business. If you do not provide good customer service, quality products, and a good selection you will not survive. That is the point I was making.

Maybe if I lived close to a shop like the Hook, Limit Out, Oroville Outdoors, or Walton's Pond, (None of these shops should have many issues due to their service, selection, and customer service), I would not have the views that I do. Gene has a great shop but I can not drive the 2+ hours to the delta every time I need baits and I do not want to spend the little time I get out on the water buying baits at Russos. I stop by these places when I can but it is just not an option many times. I need to plan ahead and order it off the internet which is hurting the local shops just as much or more than Bass Pro will.

And Guy, I love it that you can assume that I am a lazy procrastinator that never plans ahead and is basically an idoit that can not count the # of senkos or crankbaits I have in the box. You are lucky to have a great shop close to you but many of us do not have that luxury. We may not see eye to eye but at least I respect your opinion and do not attack you. I hope you whackem' your next trip out Guy, and no hard feelings, I know this has been a sensitive topic for many people.

obsessed fisherman · Post by **obsessed fisherman** » Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:10 pm

I visit BPS anytime I can when traveling, but rarely spend any $. Hook is close to home and has better knowledge about what's working and what's not. I buy from BPS when I can save a little $ on big ticket items (GPS, fishfinders etc) and get gift cert from relatives out of town, but don't think this will impact local shops.

Skeeterman · Post by **Skeeterman** » Sat Jul 26, 2008 9:21 pm

Fox40 just showed the new BassPro construction inside n out its looking good.

Guy Kelley · Post by **Guy Kelley** » Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:57 am

Frank;

This is by no means a personnel attack on you at all. If you are in a situation that requires you to, for the sake of convenience, to order on line. That is certainly in your best intrest !

When the local Big Box Home depot opened in Brentwood, a lot of people said how it was going to hurt the local merchant, and a few on the margin it did just that, they closed there doors.

But the local Ace hardware became better for it , by offering superior service and product knowledge. Something I always look for in were I shop. Personally I hate going into Home Depot, due to the long wait at the counter, lack of service when I have a question bout merchandise and the general overall of just poor quality in product and ability to move through there system. I rater pay and extra dime at my local merchant than go to the Depo.

When ever a Big Box store opens in a area there will always be a few that it hurts, but for the strong ones, who have the ability to offer, pricing that is competitive, superior service and the ability to put what I want in my hands in a reasonable amount of time gets my patronage, always. Such as Hook Line and Sinker. I am not saying they are perfect. There have been times when I was disappointed in there service as well, but that was due to who was behind the counter and not the store as a general rule.

Tags

Notice