A Close Look at the O-Man
Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler, who was the author of Reagan's strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars race and expose their inner weakness. While he is in semi-retirement now ,he is considered a true patriot with a no-nonsense approach to everything. He is also a somewhat well known mountain climber and adventurer.
He writes:
The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave s hips. He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners. Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa forcenturies until the British ended it. Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
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A Close Look At The O-Man
Re: A Close Look At The O-Man
Holy Smokes Batman, this is the very same Dr. Jack Wheeler who in an exclusive interview in Feb 08' said that John McCain had collaborated with the Viet Cong while held in captivity.
So if your faith in this two bit hack is so strong and you obviously believe what he has written about Obama, what say you about his writings on McCain? That McCain collaborated with the communists while held prisoner in Vietnam? Please tell me that interview is false, and the recent one on Obama is true.
Dr. (of philosophy) Jack (the ripper of reputations) Wheeler offers no evidence to anything he puts in print, anyone putting faith in what he says is obviously un-educated and downright stupid, at best.
Once again it shows you post knowingly false information. Got anymore misleading and false information you want to post?
So if your faith in this two bit hack is so strong and you obviously believe what he has written about Obama, what say you about his writings on McCain? That McCain collaborated with the communists while held prisoner in Vietnam? Please tell me that interview is false, and the recent one on Obama is true.
Dr. (of philosophy) Jack (the ripper of reputations) Wheeler offers no evidence to anything he puts in print, anyone putting faith in what he says is obviously un-educated and downright stupid, at best.
Once again it shows you post knowingly false information. Got anymore misleading and false information you want to post?
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Here is the Article, it has a copyright symbol on it or I'd copy and paste.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=60020
"According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. "
Wow, Knowing of McCain's recent activities, I'm surprised he left Vietnam if this is true.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/artic ... E_ID=60020
"According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. "
Wow, Knowing of McCain's recent activities, I'm surprised he left Vietnam if this is true.
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet, is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
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There are a lot of things that I don’t like about Juan McCain but the below shlt is just shlt – anyone of you pink panty waist could not even walk the same path. Until you have been through it you have nothing to say on that part of his life because you don’t know what you would do or say if you were in the same situation. Most can do the talk but they can’t do the walk – pusses!
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Posted: February 04, 2008
1:00 am Eastern
By Jack Wheeler
© 2008
How the Clintons will undo McCain
The number of fellow senators who think John McCain is psychologically unstable is large. Some will admit it publicly, like Thad Cochran who says, "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine."
Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum or Jim Inhofe. "The man is unhinged," one senator told me. "He is frighteningly unfit to be commander-in-chief."
That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP senators and congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.
They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for translator. T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War. One of those prisoners was John McCain.
The GRU – Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or main intelligence directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces – operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war. GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.
The interrogations themselves were conducted by Vietnamese who spoke some English. After each interrogation session, which could often include torturing the prisoners at the direction of the GRU officers, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session – in Vietnamese.
These reports had to be translated into Russian. T, a bright teenager living in the GRU compound in Hanoi, had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating many of the reports and interrogators' notes.
John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on Oct. 26, 1967. Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors. In July, 1968, his father, U.S. Navy Adm. J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, commander in chief, Pacific Command, commander of all U.S. military forces in the Vietnam theatre. Upon learning this, the Vietnamese offered – according to McCain – to release him.
McCain claims he refused, because he demanded all American POWs captured before him be released as well. He thus remained a prisoner when he could have gone home, and was subjected to constant brutal beatings and torture for years: that is the source of the "war-hero" saga making McCain a greater war-hero than any other American POW.
Yet the offer of release would had to have been approved by the GRU overseers of the North Vietnamese – and T does not recall any such offer being made. T admits, however, that this took place before McCain was transferred to Hoa Loa prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the POWs. T had only direct knowledge of what happened at Hoa Loa, and not the other prisons, where T's father was in charge.
McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.
According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.
The notes and reports written in Vietnamese were sent to Moscow, where T was a now a college student, for T's translation into Russian, then placed into GRU archives. That's where they stayed until 1991. Late that year, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, the CIA and the GRU made a deal for a document swap.
All of what it involved, T doesn't know. What T's father, by now retired but still with substantial contacts within the GRU, did learn (and thus T learned) was that the swap included all of T's translations.
In other words, the CIA has in its possession the notes and reports of John McCain's interrogators at the Hanoi Hilton, in both the original Vietnamese and translated Russian, showing collaboration with his Communist captors.
Allegations of this nature have been made over the years, many by Vietnam veterans. There is an even an organization, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain. But they are based on suspicions and circumstantial claims. There has never been any hard, direct evidence.
What T says the CIA has is such evidence. Its release would destroy McCain. The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose. And just who do you suppose would know what the CIA has and work with them to release it?
Someone who has been a CIA asset since he was recruited by London station chief Cord Meyer while a student at Oxford in 1968?
(Back in the '90s, years after he retired, if Cord drank a little too much Scotch he would laugh derisively at those conspiracists who accused Bill Clinton of being connected with the KGB. "They all darkly point to Bill's participation in anti-war peace conferences in Stockholm and Oslo, and his trip to Leningrad, Moscow and Prague while he was at Oxford. 'Who could have paid for this?' they ask. 'It had to be the KGB!' they claim." Cord would shake his head. "What rot – we paid for it. We recruited Bill the first week he was at Oxford. Bill's been an asset of The Three Bad Words ever since." Cord passed on in 2001.)
The small group of senators and congressmen who have been briefed by T have been unable to confirm with the CIA any details of its document swap with the GRU beyond an admission that such a swap "may have happened." They are very nervous about pursuing the matter any further.
The Clintons are not nervous. They are utterly ruthless, and they have buddies at Langley all too happy to help them.
It has been noted many times in To The Point that while most folks think the CIA is a right-wing outfit, it is not. The CIA has been dominated by left-wing hyper-liberals for years.
The CIA is a left-wing, liberal outfit, and its main job for some time now is not attacking America's enemies but conservatives in general and George W. Bush in particular. The story is best told by friend Ken Timmerman in his new book "Shadow Warriors."
When the time is right, the Clintons will see to the leaking of the GRU archives on McCain to the media. Bet on it, just as you can bet they'll follow it up with media disclosures of the lady lobbyists in Washington having adulterous affairs with McCain. (There are at least three of them; I know the name of one, but I'm not going to put it in writing.)
Maybe McCain will try to fight back by confirming Hillary's well-known bisexuality and her lesbian affair with her beautiful assistant, Huma Abedin. Google "Hillary" and "Huma Abedin," and you'll get almost 6,000 hits. Turns out Huma is a Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia and is strongly suspected of working for Saudi intelligence.
Or maybe he'll capitulate to Clinton blackmail. You never can tell what a psychologically unstable guy will do.
And that last point is why – be prepared for this, folks – I would not in any circumstances vote for John McCain, not if either Hillary or Obama were the alternative. Evil is safer than crazy. Leftie, amateur inexperience is safer than crazy. So I agree with Ann Coulter who says:
"I'd rather deal with President Hillary than with President McCain. With Hillary, we'll get the same ruinous liberal policies with none of the responsibility."
How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase wack job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses "profit" as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes "stopping global warming" is worth destroying the American economy, won't drill ANWR, won't appoint strict constructionist justices, won't protect marriage, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times and lives in a delusionary world of vanity and rage?
Rush is right. A McCain presidency will be the destruction of the Republican Party. It needs to be rebuilt, not wiped out with the field clear for the fascists of the left to consolidate power and eliminate freedom.
And maybe the only way to rebuild it is in dedicated impassioned opposition to a Clinton White House. That should be the subject of Ann Coulter's next book. I've already got the title for her. Her last book was "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans."
Ann needs to now write this book: "If Republicans Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans." (A Yogi Berra note: There still is a chance for Romney, the last remaining hope. If he can win enough delegates on Super Tuesday next week, combined with Huckabee winning Georgia and other southern states, it may still be possible for McCain to end up with only a plurality of delegates, not a majority, at the end of primary season. An open convention is still possible, during which Republicans could come to their senses. It's not over until it's over.)
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Posted: February 04, 2008
1:00 am Eastern
By Jack Wheeler
© 2008
How the Clintons will undo McCain
The number of fellow senators who think John McCain is psychologically unstable is large. Some will admit it publicly, like Thad Cochran who says, "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine."
Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum or Jim Inhofe. "The man is unhinged," one senator told me. "He is frighteningly unfit to be commander-in-chief."
That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP senators and congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.
They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for translator. T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War. One of those prisoners was John McCain.
The GRU – Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or main intelligence directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces – operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war. GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.
The interrogations themselves were conducted by Vietnamese who spoke some English. After each interrogation session, which could often include torturing the prisoners at the direction of the GRU officers, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session – in Vietnamese.
These reports had to be translated into Russian. T, a bright teenager living in the GRU compound in Hanoi, had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating many of the reports and interrogators' notes.
John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on Oct. 26, 1967. Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors. In July, 1968, his father, U.S. Navy Adm. J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, commander in chief, Pacific Command, commander of all U.S. military forces in the Vietnam theatre. Upon learning this, the Vietnamese offered – according to McCain – to release him.
McCain claims he refused, because he demanded all American POWs captured before him be released as well. He thus remained a prisoner when he could have gone home, and was subjected to constant brutal beatings and torture for years: that is the source of the "war-hero" saga making McCain a greater war-hero than any other American POW.
Yet the offer of release would had to have been approved by the GRU overseers of the North Vietnamese – and T does not recall any such offer being made. T admits, however, that this took place before McCain was transferred to Hoa Loa prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the POWs. T had only direct knowledge of what happened at Hoa Loa, and not the other prisons, where T's father was in charge.
McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.
According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.
The notes and reports written in Vietnamese were sent to Moscow, where T was a now a college student, for T's translation into Russian, then placed into GRU archives. That's where they stayed until 1991. Late that year, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, the CIA and the GRU made a deal for a document swap.
All of what it involved, T doesn't know. What T's father, by now retired but still with substantial contacts within the GRU, did learn (and thus T learned) was that the swap included all of T's translations.
In other words, the CIA has in its possession the notes and reports of John McCain's interrogators at the Hanoi Hilton, in both the original Vietnamese and translated Russian, showing collaboration with his Communist captors.
Allegations of this nature have been made over the years, many by Vietnam veterans. There is an even an organization, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain. But they are based on suspicions and circumstantial claims. There has never been any hard, direct evidence.
What T says the CIA has is such evidence. Its release would destroy McCain. The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose. And just who do you suppose would know what the CIA has and work with them to release it?
Someone who has been a CIA asset since he was recruited by London station chief Cord Meyer while a student at Oxford in 1968?
(Back in the '90s, years after he retired, if Cord drank a little too much Scotch he would laugh derisively at those conspiracists who accused Bill Clinton of being connected with the KGB. "They all darkly point to Bill's participation in anti-war peace conferences in Stockholm and Oslo, and his trip to Leningrad, Moscow and Prague while he was at Oxford. 'Who could have paid for this?' they ask. 'It had to be the KGB!' they claim." Cord would shake his head. "What rot – we paid for it. We recruited Bill the first week he was at Oxford. Bill's been an asset of The Three Bad Words ever since." Cord passed on in 2001.)
The small group of senators and congressmen who have been briefed by T have been unable to confirm with the CIA any details of its document swap with the GRU beyond an admission that such a swap "may have happened." They are very nervous about pursuing the matter any further.
The Clintons are not nervous. They are utterly ruthless, and they have buddies at Langley all too happy to help them.
It has been noted many times in To The Point that while most folks think the CIA is a right-wing outfit, it is not. The CIA has been dominated by left-wing hyper-liberals for years.
The CIA is a left-wing, liberal outfit, and its main job for some time now is not attacking America's enemies but conservatives in general and George W. Bush in particular. The story is best told by friend Ken Timmerman in his new book "Shadow Warriors."
When the time is right, the Clintons will see to the leaking of the GRU archives on McCain to the media. Bet on it, just as you can bet they'll follow it up with media disclosures of the lady lobbyists in Washington having adulterous affairs with McCain. (There are at least three of them; I know the name of one, but I'm not going to put it in writing.)
Maybe McCain will try to fight back by confirming Hillary's well-known bisexuality and her lesbian affair with her beautiful assistant, Huma Abedin. Google "Hillary" and "Huma Abedin," and you'll get almost 6,000 hits. Turns out Huma is a Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia and is strongly suspected of working for Saudi intelligence.
Or maybe he'll capitulate to Clinton blackmail. You never can tell what a psychologically unstable guy will do.
And that last point is why – be prepared for this, folks – I would not in any circumstances vote for John McCain, not if either Hillary or Obama were the alternative. Evil is safer than crazy. Leftie, amateur inexperience is safer than crazy. So I agree with Ann Coulter who says:
"I'd rather deal with President Hillary than with President McCain. With Hillary, we'll get the same ruinous liberal policies with none of the responsibility."
How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase wack job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses "profit" as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes "stopping global warming" is worth destroying the American economy, won't drill ANWR, won't appoint strict constructionist justices, won't protect marriage, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times and lives in a delusionary world of vanity and rage?
Rush is right. A McCain presidency will be the destruction of the Republican Party. It needs to be rebuilt, not wiped out with the field clear for the fascists of the left to consolidate power and eliminate freedom.
And maybe the only way to rebuild it is in dedicated impassioned opposition to a Clinton White House. That should be the subject of Ann Coulter's next book. I've already got the title for her. Her last book was "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans."
Ann needs to now write this book: "If Republicans Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans." (A Yogi Berra note: There still is a chance for Romney, the last remaining hope. If he can win enough delegates on Super Tuesday next week, combined with Huckabee winning Georgia and other southern states, it may still be possible for McCain to end up with only a plurality of delegates, not a majority, at the end of primary season. An open convention is still possible, during which Republicans could come to their senses. It's not over until it's over.)
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Pink panty waste, huh?
Maybe you ought to re-read what was said. Pink my a$$, you might want to drop trow and check your own shorts first. And what makes you so certain that anyone of us couldn't walk the same path, just how are you so sure of that? Do you think all military and ex-military are republicans? Seems to me there are a great many American military heros from both sides, I don't think the club is exclusive to one party or the other.
So you don't believe the stuff Wheeler said about McCain, but you believe the stuff he wrote about Obama? How's that book by Corsi, you believe what he wrote as well? None of them is believable, I didn't believe the swiftboat lies, and I don't believe the lies being slung around now. Fill your mind up with useless dribble written by scum sucking bottom feeders, believe it as truth, you are a conservative and nobody is going to change your mind, same goes for the other side.
Marty your full of yourself.
Maybe you ought to re-read what was said. Pink my a$$, you might want to drop trow and check your own shorts first. And what makes you so certain that anyone of us couldn't walk the same path, just how are you so sure of that? Do you think all military and ex-military are republicans? Seems to me there are a great many American military heros from both sides, I don't think the club is exclusive to one party or the other.
So you don't believe the stuff Wheeler said about McCain, but you believe the stuff he wrote about Obama? How's that book by Corsi, you believe what he wrote as well? None of them is believable, I didn't believe the swiftboat lies, and I don't believe the lies being slung around now. Fill your mind up with useless dribble written by scum sucking bottom feeders, believe it as truth, you are a conservative and nobody is going to change your mind, same goes for the other side.
Marty your full of yourself.
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1124,
Yep – just checked them, the color orientation are correct – yellow to the front and brown to the rear!
I never did say that the military was exclusive to one party or the other, those were your words. Yes I do know military that were not republicans – my father and his bothers served in WWII and they were all democrats but they were not pink panty waist liberals.
I have no idea who can do the walk and that is my point, until you do the walk you have no right to question the person that was a prisoner of war! I was never a prisoner of war and I can’t question if Juan McCain did wrong because I don’t know what I would have done!
I did not say I believe or disbelieve what Wheeler said about Juan McCain again those were your words – what I referred to is that Wheeler has no right to question Juan McCain duty to his country.
Again I did not say I believe the stuff Wheeler wrote about Obama – I did not even articulate that – those were your words.
As for Swift-boats why do you think they were lies because they did not agree with what you believe? I knew John Carey was full of Shlt when he said he had four purple harts and was only in country three months – hell I had more latrine (bathroom) time then he had in country. The Swift-boats had every right to question John Carey because they walked the path – again the point I was articulating!
In your post you were correct about one thing, I’m a conservative and nobody is going to change my mind but you’re still a pink panty waist liberals.
Don’t feel rejected because you were not in the military because I can help you out with that – I can get in you just like that and just maybe you can walk the path and get your color orientation correct. There is still time for you to be a hero! Yep, I thought so!
Yep – just checked them, the color orientation are correct – yellow to the front and brown to the rear!
I never did say that the military was exclusive to one party or the other, those were your words. Yes I do know military that were not republicans – my father and his bothers served in WWII and they were all democrats but they were not pink panty waist liberals.
I have no idea who can do the walk and that is my point, until you do the walk you have no right to question the person that was a prisoner of war! I was never a prisoner of war and I can’t question if Juan McCain did wrong because I don’t know what I would have done!
I did not say I believe or disbelieve what Wheeler said about Juan McCain again those were your words – what I referred to is that Wheeler has no right to question Juan McCain duty to his country.
Again I did not say I believe the stuff Wheeler wrote about Obama – I did not even articulate that – those were your words.
As for Swift-boats why do you think they were lies because they did not agree with what you believe? I knew John Carey was full of Shlt when he said he had four purple harts and was only in country three months – hell I had more latrine (bathroom) time then he had in country. The Swift-boats had every right to question John Carey because they walked the path – again the point I was articulating!
In your post you were correct about one thing, I’m a conservative and nobody is going to change my mind but you’re still a pink panty waist liberals.
Don’t feel rejected because you were not in the military because I can help you out with that – I can get in you just like that and just maybe you can walk the path and get your color orientation correct. There is still time for you to be a hero! Yep, I thought so!
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All I remember was watching an officer named John Kerry on TV in the early 70s talking to Congress about how he saw with his own eyes our soldiers killing babies and raping women. 'Nuff said about Hanoi Jane with a pecker.
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I don't think you truly get it. For the record I served 8 years in the military, 2 honarable discharges-so no, I don't feel rejected at all.
My point, and I'll say it reeaal slow, I never for one solitary second believed what wheeler wrote about McCain or Obama. So get down from your pulpit-nobody was questioning McCain, Hrvstf posted an article by wheeler, my rebuttal was if you believe what he wrote about Obama, do you believe what he wrote about McCain? If so then I would have to believe your either an idiot, or a flat out moron.
Ringer,
my guess is you don't know CRAP about Kerry or his service other than what has been written without facts to substantiate it. And for the record we our service members did kill innocent people in Nam, right or wrong, it happened. As Marty said, if you haven't walked in his shoes then you got nothing to say.
Politics is about making the opponent into a bad guy, it's been like this forever. If your too blind to look past the nonsense that is written by guys like Corsi and Wheeler then I feel sorry for you. Because you will never know the truth, you will think you do, but you'll be sadly mistaken.
My point, and I'll say it reeaal slow, I never for one solitary second believed what wheeler wrote about McCain or Obama. So get down from your pulpit-nobody was questioning McCain, Hrvstf posted an article by wheeler, my rebuttal was if you believe what he wrote about Obama, do you believe what he wrote about McCain? If so then I would have to believe your either an idiot, or a flat out moron.
Ringer,
my guess is you don't know CRAP about Kerry or his service other than what has been written without facts to substantiate it. And for the record we our service members did kill innocent people in Nam, right or wrong, it happened. As Marty said, if you haven't walked in his shoes then you got nothing to say.
Politics is about making the opponent into a bad guy, it's been like this forever. If your too blind to look past the nonsense that is written by guys like Corsi and Wheeler then I feel sorry for you. Because you will never know the truth, you will think you do, but you'll be sadly mistaken.
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I never argued with what you are stating. Pretty obvious after the sensational press that there was no denying the reality. My point is not too many got in front of Congress while the war was still going. Kerry never saw those things he said and admitted he lied to congress in his testimony.
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You can always tell when you've scored points against pink panty waist liberals. They follow the combined examples of Bill Clinton and Al Gore and immediately assume the counterattack mode -- rather than addressing the issues -- and accuse the accusers of "Swiftboating," by which they mean smearing with false charges.
John Kerry's adopted the technique when Kerry's fellow Swift boat veterans unveiled his true military record after Kerry shamelessly made his record an essential campaign issue (Liberals always want to be an veteran). Kerry attempted to turn the table on the truthful Swiftees by painting them as liars, idiots and nothing but morons.
The sad part is the left leaning mainstream media when to great lengths to save a floundering Kerry’s presidential campaign, including conspiring to manufacture a new word for our political dictionary designed to discredit and silence the accusers. Henceforth, "Swiftboating" would describe the untrue smearing of a political opponent.
The irony and injustice is that the Swiftees -- not John Kerry -- owned the truth. Never did Kerry or the mainstream media refute any of their allegations. But the Swiftees did expose Kerry -- objectively -- as having lied about his record in a surprising number of particulars. Kerry never even attempted to answer the allegations, despite repeatedly promising that he would. He didn't because he couldn't. The only option left open to him was to launch a diversionary and fraudulent counterattack.
Pink panty waist liberals can’t and are afraid to address the issue but rather counterattack by calling you a “liarâ€
John Kerry's adopted the technique when Kerry's fellow Swift boat veterans unveiled his true military record after Kerry shamelessly made his record an essential campaign issue (Liberals always want to be an veteran). Kerry attempted to turn the table on the truthful Swiftees by painting them as liars, idiots and nothing but morons.
The sad part is the left leaning mainstream media when to great lengths to save a floundering Kerry’s presidential campaign, including conspiring to manufacture a new word for our political dictionary designed to discredit and silence the accusers. Henceforth, "Swiftboating" would describe the untrue smearing of a political opponent.
The irony and injustice is that the Swiftees -- not John Kerry -- owned the truth. Never did Kerry or the mainstream media refute any of their allegations. But the Swiftees did expose Kerry -- objectively -- as having lied about his record in a surprising number of particulars. Kerry never even attempted to answer the allegations, despite repeatedly promising that he would. He didn't because he couldn't. The only option left open to him was to launch a diversionary and fraudulent counterattack.
Pink panty waist liberals can’t and are afraid to address the issue but rather counterattack by calling you a “liarâ€
Re: A Close Look At The O-Man
Hah! Marty... you'd better reread this thread. Anyone who isn't blind can see that you are the one who is resorting to name calling rather than discussing the issues. In fact, that's a pattern to all your posts. Everytime you get your a$$ handed to you on the facts, you either resort to namecalling or drop off the thread.
Seriously Marty, you really need to step back and think about why you are so full of hate and venom for someone who happens to share a difference in opinion. It's not healthy to have so much hate for other people. And besides, you know as well as I that hardly anything ever changes no matter who gets elected.
Seriously Marty, you really need to step back and think about why you are so full of hate and venom for someone who happens to share a difference in opinion. It's not healthy to have so much hate for other people. And besides, you know as well as I that hardly anything ever changes no matter who gets elected.
Re: A Close Look At The O-Man
Come on Jeff, pink panty waist liberals is an affection name – it is in jest. I have never called you or others a name other then what you are “A Liberalâ€
Re: A Close Look At The O-Man
[quote]You can always tell when you've scored points against pink panty waist liberals. They follow the combined examples of Bill Clinton and Al Gore and immediately assume the counterattack mode -- rather than addressing the issues -- and accuse the accusers of "Swiftboating," by which they mean smearing with false charges.
John Kerry's adopted the technique when Kerry's fellow Swift boat veterans unveiled his true military record after Kerry shamelessly made his record an essential campaign issue (Liberals always want to be an veteran). Kerry attempted to turn the table on the truthful Swiftees by painting them as liars, idiots and nothing but morons.
The sad part is the left leaning mainstream media when to great lengths to save a floundering Kerry’s presidential campaign, including conspiring to manufacture a new word for our political dictionary designed to discredit and silence the accusers. Henceforth, "Swiftboating" would describe the untrue smearing of a political opponent.
The irony and injustice is that the Swiftees -- not John Kerry -- owned the truth. Never did Kerry or the mainstream media refute any of their allegations. But the Swiftees did expose Kerry -- objectively -- as having lied about his record in a surprising number of particulars. Kerry never even attempted to answer the allegations, despite repeatedly promising that he would. He didn't because he couldn't. The only option left open to him was to launch a diversionary and fraudulent counterattack.
Pink panty waist liberals can’t and are afraid to address the issue but rather counterattack by calling you a “liarâ€
John Kerry's adopted the technique when Kerry's fellow Swift boat veterans unveiled his true military record after Kerry shamelessly made his record an essential campaign issue (Liberals always want to be an veteran). Kerry attempted to turn the table on the truthful Swiftees by painting them as liars, idiots and nothing but morons.
The sad part is the left leaning mainstream media when to great lengths to save a floundering Kerry’s presidential campaign, including conspiring to manufacture a new word for our political dictionary designed to discredit and silence the accusers. Henceforth, "Swiftboating" would describe the untrue smearing of a political opponent.
The irony and injustice is that the Swiftees -- not John Kerry -- owned the truth. Never did Kerry or the mainstream media refute any of their allegations. But the Swiftees did expose Kerry -- objectively -- as having lied about his record in a surprising number of particulars. Kerry never even attempted to answer the allegations, despite repeatedly promising that he would. He didn't because he couldn't. The only option left open to him was to launch a diversionary and fraudulent counterattack.
Pink panty waist liberals can’t and are afraid to address the issue but rather counterattack by calling you a “liarâ€
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